Jakarr Declaring?

School was not for Jakaar. That is the reasoning why he left; he'll make a few bucks overseas and be OK.

It had nothing to do with basketball it was just he did not like the school aspect of going to college.

I'm sorry but if that's true, that's just horrible. Does he not have any parent figures in his life? By all indications he was a great kid with a good head on his shoulders. He was offered a free college degree and he passed up because he didn't like school. I just don't get it.

I offered my son a free college education and he left after a year and a half. He didn't even have a Summer League invite lined up.

Yea, not even close to the same thing. School is just one of those things you gotta do to set yourself up to be in a better position later in life. I hated college, but dropping out was never an option. In fact, I didn't do my master's degree because I enjoyed it, I loathed the thought of sitting in classes again. Yet I knew it was a thing I had to do no matter what.

Jakarr should have went to a school where they don't make their players go to class.
 
School was not for Jakaar. That is the reasoning why he left; he'll make a few bucks overseas and be OK.

It had nothing to do with basketball it was just he did not like the school aspect of going to college.

I'm sorry but if that's true, that's just horrible. Does he not have any parent figures in his life? By all indications he was a great kid with a good head on his shoulders. He was offered a free college degree and he passed up because he didn't like school. I just don't get it.

I offered my son a free college education and he left after a year and a half. He didn't even have a Summer League invite lined up.

Yea, not even close to the same thing. School is just one of those things you gotta do to set yourself up to be in a better position later in life. I hated college, but dropping out was never an option. In fact, I didn't do my master's degree because I enjoyed it, I loathed the thought of sitting in classes again. Yet I knew it was a thing I had to do no matter what.

Jakarr should have went to a school where they don't make their players go to class.

Yes I think this is what st johns needs. A courses for their athletes that can be completed without going to class. Like a bachelor's in groundskeeping. Take care of the grass on campus- make sure it is watered regularly- via sprinkler system. I am sure they can think up plenty of courses like that including the usual gym courses that can get a BA for these guys and get them a degree.
 
School was not for Jakaar. That is the reasoning why he left; he'll make a few bucks overseas and be OK.

It had nothing to do with basketball it was just he did not like the school aspect of going to college.

I'm sorry but if that's true, that's just horrible. Does he not have any parent figures in his life? By all indications he was a great kid with a good head on his shoulders. He was offered a free college degree and he passed up because he didn't like school. I just don't get it.

I offered my son a free college education and he left after a year and a half. He didn't even have a Summer League invite lined up.

Yea, not even close to the same thing. School is just one of those things you gotta do to set yourself up to be in a better position later in life. I hated college, but dropping out was never an option. In fact, I didn't do my master's degree because I enjoyed it, I loathed the thought of sitting in classes again. Yet I knew it was a thing I had to do no matter what.

Jakarr should have went to a school where they don't make their players go to class.

Yes I think this is what st johns needs. A courses for their athletes that can be completed without going to class. Like a bachelor's in groundskeeping. Take care of the grass on campus- make sure it is watered regularly- via sprinkler system. I am sure they can think up plenty of courses like that including the usual gym courses that can get a BA for these guys and get them a degree.

I have a friend that has his degree in horticulture. Pretty belittling post. Basket weaving fine but horticulture is a valid degree.
 
The problem with kids like Jakarr is that he has spent his entire formative years considering only ONE career option - professional basketball. He apparently didn't want to work for a college degree because he can't see the value in it for him. It's sad for us who paid for our own and our children's education, because he has thrown away a very expensive college education and degree. All he had to see is two of our most successful basketball products, Mullin and Berry (each of whom made millions per year) returning to school to complete their degrees year later. Unless Sampson has similar earnings, that option may not be there for him. Sad.
 
The problem with kids like Jakarr is that he has spent his entire formative years considering only ONE career option - professional basketball. He apparently didn't want to work for a college degree because he can't see the value in it for him. It's sad for us who paid for our own and our children's education, because he has thrown away a very expensive college education and degree. All he had to see is two of our most successful basketball products, Mullin and Berry (each of whom made millions per year) returning to school to complete their degrees year later. Unless Sampson has similar earnings, that option may not be there for him. Sad.

If he goes to Europe and makes 6 figures he can go to a state school and finish up his degree when his career is over with no problem. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. I honestly don't think Jakarr would have had a better shot at the NBA had he stayed an extra year, he didn't develop at all last year and is getting relatively old for an NBA prospect. If he played with us next year he still would have been floating around the free throw line taking mid-range jumpers all game. Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make. And this is with no student loan debt too.
 
He has an agent, and he'll land Karr somewhere otherwise he's not making any money.

It sounds like Sampson is going to stick around and try the NBA summer circuit and the NBDL for at least a year. His agent will end up losing quite a bit of money on Sampson in this scenario. He might end up getting a call-up for a few games, but he is better off going overseas right after the NBA summer league to make his money and hone his skills. I really don't think he's top Europe quality at this point.

I know I've been knocking his pro potential for a few years, but I wish him the best. He's a really good kid. To be fair, I don't think he would have made the NBA if he stayed next season either. It can only help our program if he does make it to the NBA--even for just a few games. The best thing he has going for him might be his ties to Lebron. Maybe the Cavs take a flier on the local boy when Lebron returns in a few weeks. That would be awesome.
 
Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.
 
Wish he stayed and I think he made a huge mistake but there is no shame in making a career overseas. Wish him the best. Hopefully others coming to SJU who don't remember Omar Cook will see this as an example that they might be better served staying in school.
 
Wish he stayed and I think he made a huge mistake but there is no shame in making a career overseas. Wish him the best. Hopefully others coming to SJU who don't remember Omar Cook will see this as an example that they might be better served staying in school.
I agree with you 100%. What a shame as both Cook and Jakarr received horrible advice.
 
Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.
 
Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

So whats the median salary for SJU graduates?
 
Actually, I think Jakarr made the right decision for him, right now. The harsh reality for any player his age is this, am I good enough to be drafted in the first 2 rounds of the NBA ?

The answer is he isn't And, while he would have been a continued contributor for us next year, his game isn't ever going to be NBA level.. Why stay in school when you can go to Europe and begin your pay for play career?

Jakarr, like many college players, might have been overrated coming out of HS and his game never took the bounce necessary to raise it up. His game now, is what it will be forever.
DECENT college player but, not elite.

Good LUCK TO HIM.
 
We'll never know, but I think if he stayed another year he would have played himself into the first round, or possibly the early part of the second round.
 
Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?
 
Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.
 
Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.
You took the words out of my mouth. There are a lot off un and underemployed college graduates. Whether he would have been on on NBA team if he stayed another year is any ones guess. Like others have said, he can always finish his degree.
 
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