Jakarr Declaring?

[room112]

Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.

You took the words out of my mouth. There are a lot off un and underemployed college graduates. Whether he would have been on on NBA team if he stayed another year is any ones guess. Like others have said, he can always finish his degree.

It's not always that easy for everyone. If his career overseas fizzles out, is he really going to be able to afford to go back to school full time for 2 years? what if he has a family at that point and needs to support them? He seemed like a really bright kid with a good head on his shoulders, so I'm really hoping it pans out for him.

 

[beast of the east]

Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.

You took the words out of my mouth. There are a lot off un and underemployed college graduates. Whether he would have been on on NBA team if he stayed another year is any ones guess. Like others have said, he can always finish his degree.

It's not always that easy for everyone. If his career overseas fizzles out, is he really going to be able to afford to go back to school full time for 2 years? what if he has a family at that point and needs to support them? He seemed like a really bright kid with a good head on his shoulders, so I'm really hoping it pans out for him.

The easiest time to go to college, money or not, is when you are younger and don't have FT job responsibilities or family. I delayed grad school for a few years, and it was tough just taking 6 credits at night. To me, he's made a big mistake not hacking out a 4 year degree. Career opportunities in Europe would still have been there. The likelihood is that he will have limited earning potential playing overseas - certainly enough to live on, but not enough to coast when his playing days are over. To start a career at 35 without a college diploma will definitely limit your earning potential.

 

[ras]

Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.

You took the words out of my mouth. There are a lot off un and underemployed college graduates. Whether he would have been on on NBA team if he stayed another year is any ones guess. Like others have said, he can always finish his degree.

It's not always that easy for everyone. If his career overseas fizzles out, is he really going to be able to afford to go back to school full time for 2 years? what if he has a family at that point and needs to support them? He seemed like a really bright kid with a good head on his shoulders, so I'm really hoping it pans out for him.

The easiest time to go to college, money or not, is when you are younger and don't have FT job responsibilities or family. I delayed grad school for a few years, and it was tough just taking 6 credits at night. To me, he's made a big mistake not hacking out a 4 year degree. Career opportunities in Europe would still have been there. The likelihood is that he will have limited earning potential playing overseas - certainly enough to live on, but not enough to coast when his playing days are over. To start a career at 35 without a college diploma will definitely limit your earning potential.

Jakaar couldn't even graduate HS w good enough grades to qualify. For all we know maybe the college workload is difficult for him and not his cup of tea. He had all the facts and made the decision he thaught was best for him. Whether it works out or not is another story.

 

[beast of the east]

Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.

You took the words out of my mouth. There are a lot off un and underemployed college graduates. Whether he would have been on on NBA team if he stayed another year is any ones guess. Like others have said, he can always finish his degree.

It's not always that easy for everyone. If his career overseas fizzles out, is he really going to be able to afford to go back to school full time for 2 years? what if he has a family at that point and needs to support them? He seemed like a really bright kid with a good head on his shoulders, so I'm really hoping it pans out for him.

The easiest time to go to college, money or not, is when you are younger and don't have FT job responsibilities or family. I delayed grad school for a few years, and it was tough just taking 6 credits at night. To me, he's made a big mistake not hacking out a 4 year degree. Career opportunities in Europe would still have been there. The likelihood is that he will have limited earning potential playing overseas - certainly enough to live on, but not enough to coast when his playing days are over. To start a career at 35 without a college diploma will definitely limit your earning potential.

Jakaar couldn't even graduate HS w good enough grades to qualify. For all we know maybe the college workload is difficult for him and not his cup of tea. He had all the facts and made the decision he thaught was best for him. Whether it works out or not is another story.

To be fair, graduating HS and graduating St John's in some majors is about the same thing. I think all of us pretty much agree that poor academics figured into his decision to declare. Perhaps kids like him shouldn't be subjected to the rigors of playing a major sport and trying to tackle academics they aren't equipped to handle.

 

[Sleek718]

put on Sissers summer league game after Argentina/Belgium...Jakarr riding a lot of pine in this one. Ten minutes, four defensive boards, one FT made, and a -9 with a bit above six minutes to go...

He was a big east rookie of the year when the league was still a powerhouse, wasn't he? sheeesh.

 

[MarkRedman]

put on Sissers summer league game after Argentina/Belgium...Jakarr riding a lot of pine in this one. Ten minutes, four defensive boards, one FT made, and a -9 with a bit above six minutes to go...

He was a big east rookie of the year when the league was still a powerhouse, wasn't he? sheeesh.

I DVR'd and quickly watched the Sixers-Magic summer league game, trying to zero in on Sampson
Jakarr played about a quarter (10 minute quarters) and was one of the last guys to come off the bench
They had him play the wing (3 man) position
He had a few opportunities to handle the ball on offense and bungled it every single time
From what I saw, he shot 0-1 from the floor (a 3 pointer) and 1-3 from the F.T. line
He had difficulty defending wing players and could not handle the ball cleanly on the perimeter
He basically looked lost out there today .... smh

 

[Class of 72]

Why not get a jump start on his career which will, barring injury, make him far more money in a shorter amount of time than 98% of St. John's graduates will make.

But sadly there's a good chance he will make less money than 98% of St. John's graduates over the course of his life.

Probably not true. Phil Missere was making over 100k per season playing in England.

If Phil could net that, I'm sure JaKarr can match or exceed it playing in Europe. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of time for him to toil in the NBDL. Look at DJ Kennedy and Justin Brownlee. They consistently put up solid numbers and never get a chance.

How long was Phil making 100k and what did he do after that? If nothing else, Phil can fall back on his STJ degree. Jakarr can't.

And Euro ball is not the haven most think it is. Aside from the top tier clubs, it's a rag tag barnstorming group of teams along the lines of the ones STJ played last summer. Clubs fold left and right. If you're lucky you have a one-year contract that's honored. More than likely, you're just living game to game, paycheck to paycheck.

That's not necessarily a bad life when you're young and single. But those days are finite. Then what?

If Jakarr wants to he can get his degree after he is done playing. He will likely be making more money next year than the value of his scholarship. He definitely will be making more than tuition at a state school would cost. College isn't for everyone. Especially with the advancement of distance learning it really isn't a big deal if he doesn't have a diploma at the age of 22. Why waste 2 years of potential earnings when you can get the same degree, that you won't need until your career is done, 15 years down the road.

You took the words out of my mouth. There are a lot off un and underemployed college graduates. Whether he would have been on on NBA team if he stayed another year is any ones guess. Like others have said, he can always finish his degree.

It's not always that easy for everyone. If his career overseas fizzles out, is he really going to be able to afford to go back to school full time for 2 years? what if he has a family at that point and needs to support them? He seemed like a really bright kid with a good head on his shoulders, so I'm really hoping it pans out for him.

The easiest time to go to college, money or not, is when you are younger and don't have FT job responsibilities or family. I delayed grad school for a few years, and it was tough just taking 6 credits at night. To me, he's made a big mistake not hacking out a 4 year degree. Career opportunities in Europe would still have been there. The likelihood is that he will have limited earning potential playing overseas - certainly enough to live on, but not enough to coast when his playing days are over. To start a career at 35 without a college diploma will definitely limit your earning potential.

Jakaar couldn't even graduate HS w good enough grades to qualify. For all we know maybe the college workload is difficult for him and not his cup of tea. He had all the facts and made the decision he thaught was best for him. Whether it works out or not is another story.

To be fair, graduating HS and graduating St John's in some majors is about the same thing. I think all of us pretty much agree that poor academics figured into his decision to declare. Perhaps kids like him shouldn't be subjected to the rigors of playing a major sport and trying to tackle academics they aren't equipped to handle.

Your comments just described half of the college football players in America yet both sports and the kids that play them are subjected not by the colleges as many believe but by the NFL & NBA that use American colleges as their minor league at no cost to them to evaluate players.
I also think your comment "To be fair, graduating HS and graduating St John's in some majors is about the same thing" is condescending to our SJ students. Our kids may not be Ivy Leaguers but they likely have work harder to get their grades and will likely have to work harder at life because most people have that perception. I have worked with many Ivy Leaguers who majored in History who felt entitled once they got the job yet had to go through the same training process as the Iona or St. John's kid but they certainly did not work any harder.

 

[salty dog]

Saw Jakarr played last night in Sixers summer league game with Nerlens Noel, wears number 41
Good chance with this club to hang on.

 

[jumbo_peanuts]

put on Sissers summer league game after Argentina/Belgium...Jakarr riding a lot of pine in this one. Ten minutes, four defensive boards, one FT made, and a -9 with a bit above six minutes to go...

He was a big east rookie of the year when the league was still a powerhouse, wasn't he? sheeesh.

I DVR'd and quickly watched the Sixers-Magic summer league game, trying to zero in on Sampson
Jakarr played about a quarter (10 minute quarters) and was one of the last guys to come off the bench
They had him play the wing (3 man) position
He had a few opportunities to handle the ball on offense and bungled it every single time
From what I saw, he shot 0-1 from the floor (a 3 pointer) and 1-3 from the F.T. line
He had difficulty defending wing players and could not handle the ball cleanly on the perimeter
He basically looked lost out there today .... smh

He was an undrafted free agent that was signed to a summer league team. His college numbers were never anything to get all excited about.

Did you really expect him to step on the court in game 1 and just tear sh*t up??

 

[MarkRedman]

put on Sissers summer league game after Argentina/Belgium...Jakarr riding a lot of pine in this one. Ten minutes, four defensive boards, one FT made, and a -9 with a bit above six minutes to go...

He was a big east rookie of the year when the league was still a powerhouse, wasn't he? sheeesh.

I DVR'd and quickly watched the Sixers-Magic summer league game, trying to zero in on Sampson
Jakarr played about a quarter (10 minute quarters) and was one of the last guys to come off the bench
They had him play the wing (3 man) position
He had a few opportunities to handle the ball on offense and bungled it every single time
From what I saw, he shot 0-1 from the floor (a 3 pointer) and 1-3 from the F.T. line
He had difficulty defending wing players and could not handle the ball cleanly on the perimeter
He basically looked lost out there today .... smh

He was an undrafted free agent that was signed to a summer league team. His college numbers were never anything to get all excited about.

Did you really expect him to step on the court in game 1 and just tear sh*t up??

No, but there were other undrafted free agents that played for Philadelphia in that game that made decent contributions
Aaron Craft played well as did Ronald Roberts (a former St John's target)
Sampson, on the other hand, looked like a deer in headlights

 

[jumbo_peanuts]

anyone know what the average salary is for someone playing in the nbdl?

 

[otis]

See link:
http://www.ridiculousupside.com/201...-maximum-nba-d-league-player-salary-increased

 

[FKASJU]

Sixers v Thunder on Nba Tv right now. Sampson just checked in. He actually looks like he has bulked up a bit.

 

[FKASJU]

Sixers v Thunder on Nba Tv right now. Sampson just checked in. He actually looks like he has bulked up a bit.

Of course, he is currently two for six from the line. Unreal that he hasn't worked on that more. You can't be a "pro" and shoot under sixty percent from the line for the 3 or 4 position.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

Turned it on and saw him take 2 straight fouls then dribble into 2 defenders and turn it over. Also just stepped on the sideline while dribbling.

 

[tom in salem]

The guy is gone.
Cut him some slack.
He didn't kill anybody.

 

[MarkRedman]

Played a lot more tonight
They have him playing guard and standing 25 feet from the basket on their offensive sets
Can't handle the ball at all - was often out of control - I noted 4 unforced turnovers
Scored 8 points, had a couple of rebounds, blocked a shot, had an assist
But, he's not making anybody NBA roster this year
The guy on Philly who impressed me much more both nights was Ronald Roberts
He could have been a major contributor at St John's

 

[1and1sju]

The guy is gone.
Cut him some slack.
He didn't kill anybody.

+1

And I'm probably late to the party, but
+100 on the avatar/profile pic Tom

 

[SI1996]

Played a lot more tonight
They have him playing guard and standing 25 feet from the basket on their offensive sets
Can't handle the ball at all - was often out of control - I noted 4 unforced turnovers
Scored 8 points, had a couple of rebounds, blocked a shot, had an assist
But, he's not making anybody NBA roster this year
The guy on Philly who impressed me much more both nights was Ronald Roberts
He could have been a major contributor at St John's

I was waiting for the Ronald Roberts post but I was wrong on who was going to post it

 

[Sleek718]

watching the replay now...

as good as Isaiah Thomas was as a player, he's horrendous at just about everything else...this man should not be a commentator for anything, ever.

Jakarr is just a body for the 1st and 2nd rounders to play with for a couple of weeks, unless of course the Sissers want to grab another lottery pick next year and seek really bad FT numbers to assure it. He's trying at least...