Hofstra (UBS), Sat., Dec. 30, 12p, FS-1

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IDRAFT said:
Parking will be about $40. I’m not defending, and rather pay nothing, but always find the UBS parking commentary puzzling. Sure it’s free at CA but how do people get to MSG? For Mrs IDRAFT and myself it’s $9 just to park at the LIRR and then I forget the LIRR price but all-in is about $40. A family of four would be more. Are their cheap garages in Manhattan I’m not aware of? If so I guess the midtown tunnel tolls are avoided by going through the 59th street bridge?

And I realize I’m using Long Island based fans as an example but they seem to be the ones complaining. I don’t feel the costs to commute to MSG are ever raised as an issue. They seem at best comparable.

Its odd to me.
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I think part of the offensiveness is that UBS is way out in the burbs compared to MSG. Parking at Belmont, which is right next to UBS, I think is only $3 or so, other than for the day of the Belmont stakes.
 
Redenbacher said:
I think part of the offensiveness is that UBS is way out in the burbs compared to MSG. Parking at Belmont, which is right next to UBS, I think is only $3 or so, other than for the day of the Belmont stakes.
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Belmont Park is closed for reconstruction for the next two years and I doubt you would be allowed to park there at this point. One can find free street parking around Hempstead Avenue and 223rd or 224th Streets if you are up for about a fifteen minute walk to the arena from there.
 
Section9 said:
That's too much trouble for them. There's a difference between some of them who look upon it as a donation and perhaps also as a business entertainment thing at MSG.
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Do you mean trouble for the ticket holders or for the school? It’s not hard to transfer tickets to someone, you just need an email address…
 
lycidas said:
Respectfully, there was more than a “slight rise” in attendance under Mullin.

In Mullin’s final year, attendance for our MSG games averaged 16,498, by far the highest levels since Lou coached. (Before Mullin average Garden attendance for SJ games was 10,750.)
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Excellent point.

Also some other notes on attendance that year:
> Our BE games at MSG averaged 18,102
> All MSG games were on the weekend
 
Maybe some UBS attendees can park on campus and carpool via uber to the site.
 
Redenbacher said:
What they should do is make it easy for those ticket holders who do not plan to attend to donate their tickets back to the school, who can pass them along to students. Or known SJU fans.
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This would be a great idea. I’m one of those people, I’m tall and just find it too uncomfortable to go to games there, so probably only make it to one or two. And I’ll give tickets away to friends if they want them, but don’t have time for the hassle of StubHub or even trying to give them away on here sometimes. I think there are a lot of people in that position. If I could just donate them back would happily do it.
 
Beasts of the East said:
To be clear, any regrets regarding UBS has nothing to do with the arena beyond our overall poor ticket sales. CRP has publicly stated he wanted us on broadway, in big arenas, and miscalculated the response from fans.

Despite ticket sellouts, even CA hasn't been jammed with fans. In the old days, fans would jam into the bleachers, spilling onto the steps and in violation of fire code. You couldn't have an in game conversation because the building would quake from the noise. This year seems to be a number of empty seats even vs. Xavier, which sold out

I believe UBS is a viable option, but not till demand for tix warrants it. For now, for many, a couch, nearby refrigerator, and your own bathroom is more attractive than in game attendance. Hopefully fans respond in a way that ubs and garden games make sense.
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Correct, I was referring to the attendance situation, not anything else.
 
Redenbacher said:
Do you mean trouble for the ticket holders or for the school? It’s not hard to transfer tickets to someone, you just need an email address…
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Thought you need a Ticketmaster account to transfer tickets, but maybe I'm missing something
 
lycidas said:
Respectfully, there was more than a “slight rise” in attendance under Mullin.

In Mullin’s final year, attendance for our MSG games averaged 16,498, by far the highest levels since Lou coached. (Before Mullin average Garden attendance for SJ games was 10,750.)
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What's your source for that? That seems highly unlikely.
EDIT: I just looked up the reported attendance for a couple of the games I was at. I don't know how they count attendance, but there is no way there was 16-17k in attendance. That's practically a full house and the upper bowl was nowhere near that full for those games.

Whatever...Let's Go Redmen
 
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tnice said:
What's your source for that? That seems highly unlikely.
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That definitely does not sound right on attendance either before or after the Mullin era. I’ve had season tickets for at least the last 20 years and have regularly been going to games at the Garden for the past 25 years. I can attest that following the Jarvis era, other than games against Syracuse, Duke and UConn, MSG was typically half empty and sometimes far worse than that.
 
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