Head Coaching Changes

Amaseinyourface post=427106 said:
Not an alum post=427103 said:
Sounds like Shaka smart is on shaky ground. Next few days will be interesting down there 

Would be crazy IMO. And a few other schools would jump for joy. Would hate to see him at a place like Marquette or DePaul. He wouldn’t have a problem picking his spot tho.

Shaka at a school that only has basketball can do A LOT of damage.
 
fordham96 post=427117 said:
That would be unprecedented.  That loss last night was bad no doubt but firing a coach who beat Kansas twice said:
That would be unprecedented.  That loss last night was bad no doubt but firing a coach who beat Kansas twice,  won your league Tourney and was a 3 seed, meaning one of the top 12 teams in the country?
They are paying him to win in March, and he never does. And when enough big-time donors are angry, things happen.

It may be unprecedented for basketball, but I feel like successful football coaches get booted all the time, and Texas is a football school with donors with a football mentality.
 
otis post=427108 said:
Knight post=427107 said:
Waiting for the cries to get Iona into the Big East.
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St. John's, Seton Hall and others would promptly veto any Iona- Big East talk.

More likely would be Iona to the A10 and Fordham to the Patriot where Fordham already plays football.
Fordham was previously in the Patriot League for all sports after leaving the MAAC.  They were competitive in the MAAC but after leaving it for the then no athletic scholarship Patriot league is when their basketball team started going down the rabbit hole.
 
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matt105 post=427111 said:
The foul call on the scramble for a rebound with 2 seconds left was a horrible call against Texas .
No it wasn’t.  Texas Abilene player had the ball during the scramble and was hit by two different guys as he I immediately put the ball back up for a shot.
 
Moose post=427174 said:
Amaseinyourface post=427106 said:
Not an alum post=427103 said:
Sounds like Shaka smart is on shaky ground. Next few days will be interesting down there 

Would be crazy IMO. And a few other schools would jump for joy. Would hate to see him at a place like Marquette or DePaul. He wouldn’t have a problem picking his spot tho.

Shaka at a school that only has basketball can do A LOT of damage.
Texas being a football school has nothing to do with it.  He has great resources and facilities at a large State school and is expected to win just like at other football schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Arkansas and even Alabama.
 
SJU85 post=427206 said:
Fordham was previously in the Patriot League for all sports after leaving the MAAC.  They were competitive in the MAAC but after leaving it for the then no athletic scholarship Patriot league is when their basketball team started going down the rabbit hole.
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Right you are that when Fordham was a member of the Patriot (from 1990 to 1995) it was a no scholarship league.  That has changed.  The Patriot schools now offer scholarships in basketball and football.
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In 2001, when the league admitted American, which gave scholarships in all its sports (AU does not play football), the league began allowing all schools to do so in sports other than football. Lafayette, the last holdout with no athletic scholarships, began granting full rides in basketball and other sports with freshmen entering the school in the fall of 2006. Most Patriot League schools do not give athletic scholarships in a number of sports, and Bucknell only granted them in basketball prior to the addition of football scholarships in 2013.In the spring of 2009, Fordham University announced that it would start offering football scholarships in the fall of 2010. This action made Fordham ineligible for the league championship in that sport, but it also prompted a league-wide discussion on football scholarships. On February 13, 2012, the Patriot League announced its members could begin offering football scholarships starting with the 2013–14 academic year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_League

 
 
SJU85 post=427209 said:
Moose post=427174 said:
Amaseinyourface post=427106 said:
Not an alum post=427103 said:
Sounds like Shaka smart is on shaky ground. Next few days will be interesting down there 

Would be crazy IMO. And a few other schools would jump for joy. Would hate to see him at a place like Marquette or DePaul. He wouldn’t have a problem picking his spot tho.

Shaka at a school that only has basketball can do A LOT of damage.
Texas being a football school has nothing to do with it.  He has great resources and facilities at a large State school and is expected to win just like at other football schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Arkansas and even Alabama.

He does have lots of resources.  I just think if he can be at a school where Basketball is king, he can excel as the big man on campus.  Always thought he would be a great hire at a BE school like SJU, Gtown, etc.  He did grow up in Wisconsin also.  If Texas was to fire him he would be scooped up very quickly.  Being that Texas fired their Football coach this year does that help his case for surviving.  
 
Try getting a top coach who will come after you just fired a coach who won your conference tournament and got a 3 seed in the Tourney?  I understand the NCAA success is what everyone is looking for but take a look at Chris Holtmann at OSU. Just lost to a 15 seed as a 2.  He is in no danger of being fired,  The bigger issue with Shaka is the mediocre job he did PRIOR to this year.  That is when you were justified in firing him.  Firing him now would look really bad,



They are paying him to win in March, and he never does. And when enough big-time donors are angry, things happen.

It may be unprecedented for basketball, but I feel like successful football coaches get booted all the time, and Texas is a football school with donors with a football mentality.
 
fordham96 post=427243 said:
Try getting a top coach who will come after you just fired a coach who won your conference tournament and got a 3 seed in the Tourney?  I understand the NCAA success is what everyone is looking for but take a look at Chris Holtmann at OSU. Just lost to a 15 seed as a 2.  He is in no danger of being fired,  The bigger issue with Shaka is the mediocre job he did PRIOR to this year.  That is when you were justified in firing him.  Firing him now would look really bad,

 
I don't disagree -- I would use my money more wisely if I were a donor. Especially since the best candidate I can think of who would take the job under those circumstances would probably be someone like Gregg Marshall, and I don't think the NCAA is quite ready to welcome him back yet.
 
Sounds like Indiana is going to go hard after Chris Beard.  I don't think money will be the issue because Texas Tech will more than match what IU is willing to give him.  
 
Moose post=427221 said:
SJU85 post=427209 said:
Moose post=427174 said:
Amaseinyourface post=427106 said:
Not an alum post=427103 said:
Sounds like Shaka smart is on shaky ground. Next few days will be interesting down there 

Would be crazy IMO. And a few other schools would jump for joy. Would hate to see him at a place like Marquette or DePaul. He wouldn’t have a problem picking his spot tho.

Shaka at a school that only has basketball can do A LOT of damage.
Texas being a football school has nothing to do with it.  He has great resources and facilities at a large State school and is expected to win just like at other football schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Arkansas and even Alabama.

He does have lots of resources.  I just think if he can be at a school where Basketball is king, he can excel as the big man on campus.  Always thought he would be a great hire at a BE school like SJU, Gtown, etc.  He did grow up in Wisconsin also.  If Texas was to fire him he would be scooped up very quickly.  Being that Texas fired their Football coach this year does that help his case for surviving.  
No doubt he gets picked up if let go.  I still can’t get use to him with hair.
 
He does have lots of resources.  I just think if he can be at a school where Basketball is king, he can excel as the big man on campus.  Always thought he would be a great hire at a BE school like SJU, Gtown, etc.  He did grow up in Wisconsin also.  If Texas was to fire him he would be scooped up very quickly.  Being that Texas fired their Football coach this year does that help his case for surviving.


I think this last line does help him.  Texas does have DEEP pockets but man they took a PR beating after buying out Tom Herman (after the AD had initially confirmed he was coming back then did a 180 and fired him) and giving the new coach a huge contract, Sarkisian.  In the middle of a pandemic with athletic budgets BLEEDING cash that looked bad.  Now you are going to fire your basketball coach after he had his BEST season wining the B12 Tourney, beating Kansas twice and getting a 3 seed.  Pay him off and presumably try to hire a established coach who is going to cost you $$$$$.  I think that might be too much even for Texas.
 
P1NSTR1PEZ post=427329 said:
Ben Johnson, Xavier Asst Coach getting the Minnesota job, per Borzello
Do you fire Little Ricky with the intent of hiring Johnson? I wonder how many people told them no first.
 
P1NSTR1PEZ post=427329 wrote: Ben Johnson, Xavier Asst Coach getting the Minnesota job, per Borzello
Do you fire Little Ricky with the intent of hiring Johnson? I wonder how many people told them no first.


Little surprised at that too.  Minny is not a bad job, good money, decent facilities. 
 
Elmhurst native, Archbishop Molloy grad, Miami assistant Chris Caputo named George Mason coach  
 
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