Harrison suspended rest of the year

It's obviously never good when something like this happens. However, I have never liked Harrison's demeanor. Yeah, he's talented and can at times light it up. However, he can also be quite atrocious. His recent stretch has been absolutely awful. His entire attitude and personality would have to change in order for him to really be as successful as he should be and for the overall benefit of the team. Dudes with bad attitudes will bring the entire team down. I'm hoping things can be worked out where he can get it together, but I do not think he would be missed as much as some others feel he would. I do admire that he is clearly unafraid to take the big shots, not too many can handle that role. Whether somebody can step up and fill that role remains to be seen.
 
Shame on everyone throwing DH under the bus before any official details are released. Kid plays with more passion than any one else on the team. DH is the only player i have seen in this squad actually slap the floor after a run to pump his teammates up. Good riddance? Shame on you.
I thought everything he did was self promotion. He was just getting started here and he could not wait to let people know he would not be around long. Why, obvious. He thought he was to good for us. His teammates were great with him on the court. They were lookin out for him, and with top talents it should be the other way around. I just can't figure why he could not be 100% for the team these next few weeks and leave like a gentlemen with good words all around.

Why not deflect some blame on the the coach who overhypes everyone to ungodly levels. Marco is Steve Kerr and John Paxson. I'm sure there are others I'm choosing not to remember now.

Keep in mind that the 18 ppg was dramatically lower in the Big East season, and it wasn't exactly done with marksmanship.

it's the posters on these sites...not the coaches...who anoint our guys as saviors.

Do some posters yes? But thats not the point here.
Lavin loves quotes and analogies and he is the one what compares people and drops lines.
Dee is no angel. We all knew that. But you put up with it when its 18 ppg. Now we have to replace 18 ppg. Lets see how.



Moose, I don't think we can. Maybe by committee.
 
This program is bush league

Why the program is bush league?

Easy response.... No accountability and it goes all the way up to Monasch.

The staff has to be held accountable for the 3 ineligible players last season, Nurideen Lindsey, Orlando, D'Angelo. The program is a mess.

I feel like Lavin is getting a free pass for a lot of the stuff.

so suspending a player that breaks rules(harrison), and getting rid of a problematic player (lindsey) is not taking accountability and control of your program?
what planet are you living on?


I live on planet Queens. Are you guys really saying that instead of managing egos it is better to just give a player the boot? Obviously the players have a responsibility but you have to at least question the staff. It is their job to be teachers and mentors and help these kids develop. We know that D'Angelos attitude hasn't developed and I am also a little concerned about the development of the players on the court too. Besides Dom, the returning players haven't taken the strides we assumed they would. Eventually it is time to throw out the "We are young" excuse. They have played together for a while now.

Do you know what efforts were made by the coaching staff to mentor and "coach" Harrison on his behavior? It's an unfortunate situation, but to blame the coaches for Harrison's behavior is not fair. Even if the coaches did absolutely nothing to mentor Harrison, he is directly responsible for his own behavior. Having said that, I hope he comes back.

The program had become bush league but we are clearly working our way out of that category.

Harrision's self-absorption was evident to anyone but a blind man.

I applaud Lavin's move because he pulled the trigger regardless of the consequences for our post-season chances.

I hope that making Harrison accountable for his behavior results in a turn for the better in his life.

Whether or not he could accomplish that here at St John's is a question only Harrison himself can answer.

I can honestly say that I never saw Dlo dog it once this year. The shots he took were the ones he ws hitting last year so I have no problem with that. Despite his slump he's still third in the league in scoring and I don't know how you can question that. He has passed creatively throughout and I take all the body language comments with a grain of salt. I watched Lavin decrease Sean Evans time to an average of twelve minutes after taking credit for him being a great reclamation project. Frankly I think Lavin is FOS in many ways and I wwonder if that's snake oil in his hair instead of gel. You have to be able to relate to all kinds of players in this racket without resorting to pussy tactics like suspensions. I dealt with a lot of recalcitrant employees over the years but suspensions were rare and just considered a failure to manage. Ultimately though it's the fans and his team mates who pay the price for this BS. Let's remember that Lavin was the guy who brought him here and his performance is part of his responsibility. I key in every day looking for good news about the program but more often than not it's crap like this. I can't see where this will provide any benefit to recruiting going forward and right now the cupboard seems pretty bare to me. I'm disgusted to say the least

This post gave me quite a laugh.

Suspending D'Angelo is a tactic?

You, nor I, nor anyone here knows how often D'Angelo was talked to by the staff. We don't know what was the reason for D'Angelo to get suspended even before we played an exhibition game.

So please spare your tactics argument in lieu of 18 PPG.

This hurts recruitment in your eyes? How so? Recruits will have to realize that they can't have their way?

We're screwed

I worked with a manager who used to suspend people left and right. Then his boss realized that his employees were screwing him at every turn and the job wasn't getting done. Shortly thereafter he was demoted and shelved. There again your results say what you are. If you can't see how suspending your best player and possibly having him walk will affect recruiting you know absolutely nothing about the game. Kids come for one reason- to make it to the pros. Coaches who suspend their players put their careers in jeopardy and it had better be for a good reason. "Unbecoming conduct" says nothing but creates all kinds of potentially costly doubts about a player's character. In the absence of specifics I'd be really reluctant to place my career prospects in such hands.
 
Selfish move by Lav- this pisses me off to no end-- does he think of the other players who busted their butts all season? Unless Harrison flat out refused to practice, or cursed a coach out-- this suspension is ridiculous.

This is crazy talk.

His 18 PPG does not give him a free pass to do whatever he wants however and whenever he wants to do it. Point blank. End of story.

It's not crazy talk, Ihave watched Harrison play he wants to WIN. So what he shakes his head a lot.
 
Just as we get some good news, here comes a kick in the nuts to bring us back to reality.

We could view this as good news - we're headed to NIT anyway - plus Harrison has problems - something was brewing when his recent play has been poor and suspect;

another positive mentioned by (I forget) at least Coach Lavin has the guts and sense not to tolerate Harrision

Let's see if any of his teammates jump to support Harrison? I doubt it.

We will be fine.
 
Just as we get some good news, here comes a kick in the nuts to bring us back to reality.

We could view this as good news - we're headed to NIT anyway - plus Harrison has problems - something was brewing when his recent play has been poor and suspect;

another positive mentioned by (I forget - I think Red Johnnies) at least Coach Lavin has the guts and sense not to tolerate Harrision

Let's see if any of his teammates jump to support Harrison? I doubt it.

We will be fine.
 
This program is bush league

Why the program is bush league?

Easy response.... No accountability and it goes all the way up to Monasch.

The staff has to be held accountable for the 3 ineligible players last season, Nurideen Lindsey, Orlando, D'Angelo. The program is a mess.

I feel like Lavin is getting a free pass for a lot of the stuff.

so suspending a player that breaks rules(harrison), and getting rid of a problematic player (lindsey) is not taking accountability and control of your program?
what planet are you living on?


I live on planet Queens. Are you guys really saying that instead of managing egos it is better to just give a player the boot? Obviously the players have a responsibility but you have to at least question the staff. It is their job to be teachers and mentors and help these kids develop. We know that D'Angelos attitude hasn't developed and I am also a little concerned about the development of the players on the court too. Besides Dom, the returning players haven't taken the strides we assumed they would. Eventually it is time to throw out the "We are young" excuse. They have played together for a while now.

Do you know what efforts were made by the coaching staff to mentor and "coach" Harrison on his behavior? It's an unfortunate situation, but to blame the coaches for Harrison's behavior is not fair. Even if the coaches did absolutely nothing to mentor Harrison, he is directly responsible for his own behavior. Having said that, I hope he comes back.

The program had become bush league but we are clearly working our way out of that category.

Harrision's self-absorption was evident to anyone but a blind man.

I applaud Lavin's move because he pulled the trigger regardless of the consequences for our post-season chances.

I hope that making Harrison accountable for his behavior results in a turn for the better in his life.

Whether or not he could accomplish that here at St John's is a question only Harrison himself can answer.

I can honestly say that I never saw Dlo dog it once this year. The shots he took were the ones he ws hitting last year so I have no problem with that. Despite his slump he's still third in the league in scoring and I don't know how you can question that. He has passed creatively throughout and I take all the body language comments with a grain of salt. I watched Lavin decrease Sean Evans time to an average of twelve minutes after taking credit for him being a great reclamation project. Frankly I think Lavin is FOS in many ways and I wwonder if that's snake oil in his hair instead of gel. You have to be able to relate to all kinds of players in this racket without resorting to pussy tactics like suspensions. I dealt with a lot of recalcitrant employees over the years but suspensions were rare and just considered a failure to manage. Ultimately though it's the fans and his team mates who pay the price for this BS. Let's remember that Lavin was the guy who brought him here and his performance is part of his responsibility. I key in every day looking for good news about the program but more often than not it's crap like this. I can't see where this will provide any benefit to recruiting going forward and right now the cupboard seems pretty bare to me. I'm disgusted to say the least

This post gave me quite a laugh.

Suspending D'Angelo is a tactic?

You, nor I, nor anyone here knows how often D'Angelo was talked to by the staff. We don't know what was the reason for D'Angelo to get suspended even before we played an exhibition game.

So please spare your tactics argument in lieu of 18 PPG.

This hurts recruitment in your eyes? How so? Recruits will have to realize that they can't have their way?

We're screwed

I worked with a manager who used to suspend people left and right. Then his boss realized that his employees were screwing him at every turn and the job wasn't getting done. Shortly thereafter he was demoted and shelved. There again your results say what you are. If you can't see how suspending your best player and possibly having him walk will affect recruiting you know absolutely nothing about the game. Kids come for one reason- to make it to the pros. Coaches who suspend their players put their careers in jeopardy and it had better be for a good reason. "Unbecoming conduct" says nothing but creates all kinds of potentially costly doubts about a player's character. In the absence of specifics I'd be really reluctant to place my career prospects in such hands.
 
I am a big fan of Harrison and I love how he plays with his heart on his sleeve, I really hope he learns from this and comes back next year, I think he is a great addition to our team and with the right attitude he can help us in great ways. Lavin knows this, and that is what he is trying to get out of him, its a work in progress but I hope he takes it the right way and comes back, I don't want to see him go.

just wanted to write some positive comments about the kid because i do like his style of play, adn I applaud Lavin but I also dont want the kid to leave the team.

I will keep calling him the kid because he needs to mature, there are guys in the NBA that are still kids and havent matured, Laving is trying to change that, I hope Harrison realizes and comes back.

I think Red Johnnies posted that he applauds Lavin who unlike Boeheim and Calhoun - is not tolerating Harrision's "stuff". I would be surprised if Harrision did not do something worthy of a suspension (e.g. serious stuff). We are NIT bound anyway - other players will fill in the minutes and gain experinece - I thought about Harrison's poor play recently and figured something was up.

let's let this shake out but I'm not upset. I trust Coach Lavin and find it hard to believe that there was no basis for his action.

I see that part of my post was printed above - sorry for any duplication
all the best
 
I feel for D'Angelo, as this kind of suspension can significantly hurt his chances of earning a paycheck playing basketball, wherever that may be. I do hope that he can come back to St. John's next year and continue to play and go to school here. I guess I'm not surprised by the extreme opinions here (I for one still don't know what led to the suspension, other than the behavior I've seen in games, so I won't pass judgment) but he's been suspended, not kicked off the team, so I disagree with those who just want to give his scholarship to someone new and throw the kid away. But I do agree with the sentiment among many that a player, no matter his production, needs to be disciplined - for the good of the team. I can assure you that anyone who's played team sports knows how detrimental a player can be to the rest of his teammates if he's not held accountable for his actions. This suspension is made with the other players in mind, not in spite of them, and clearly the interests in the other players outweighed D'Angelo's interests and production.
One last thing, I'm sad about all this agenda pushing/argument baiting that goes on here. Lavin is the head coach, some posters need to get over it. D'Angelo is one of ours unless he or the staff decide otherwise, and posters should be cognizant that players - not just the ones they dislike - are able to see the support (or lack their of) of our posters. There's a reason I include my face with my screen name.
 
This program is bush league

Why the program is bush league?

Easy response.... No accountability and it goes all the way up to Monasch.

The staff has to be held accountable for the 3 ineligible players last season, Nurideen Lindsey, Orlando, D'Angelo. The program is a mess.

I feel like Lavin is getting a free pass for a lot of the stuff.

so suspending a player that breaks rules(harrison), and getting rid of a problematic player (lindsey) is not taking accountability and control of your program?
what planet are you living on?


I live on planet Queens. Are you guys really saying that instead of managing egos it is better to just give a player the boot? Obviously the players have a responsibility but you have to at least question the staff. It is their job to be teachers and mentors and help these kids develop. We know that D'Angelos attitude hasn't developed and I am also a little concerned about the development of the players on the court too. Besides Dom, the returning players haven't taken the strides we assumed they would. Eventually it is time to throw out the "We are young" excuse. They have played together for a while now.

Do you know what efforts were made by the coaching staff to mentor and "coach" Harrison on his behavior? It's an unfortunate situation, but to blame the coaches for Harrison's behavior is not fair. Even if the coaches did absolutely nothing to mentor Harrison, he is directly responsible for his own behavior. Having said that, I hope he comes back.

The program had become bush league but we are clearly working our way out of that category.

Harrision's self-absorption was evident to anyone but a blind man.

I applaud Lavin's move because he pulled the trigger regardless of the consequences for our post-season chances.

I hope that making Harrison accountable for his behavior results in a turn for the better in his life.

Whether or not he could accomplish that here at St John's is a question only Harrison himself can answer.

I can honestly say that I never saw Dlo dog it once this year. The shots he took were the ones he ws hitting last year so I have no problem with that. Despite his slump he's still third in the league in scoring and I don't know how you can question that. He has passed creatively throughout and I take all the body language comments with a grain of salt. I watched Lavin decrease Sean Evans time to an average of twelve minutes after taking credit for him being a great reclamation project. Frankly I think Lavin is FOS in many ways and I wwonder if that's snake oil in his hair instead of gel. You have to be able to relate to all kinds of players in this racket without resorting to pussy tactics like suspensions. I dealt with a lot of recalcitrant employees over the years but suspensions were rare and just considered a failure to manage. Ultimately though it's the fans and his team mates who pay the price for this BS. Let's remember that Lavin was the guy who brought him here and his performance is part of his responsibility. I key in every day looking for good news about the program but more often than not it's crap like this. I can't see where this will provide any benefit to recruiting going forward and right now the cupboard seems pretty bare to me. I'm disgusted to say the least

Its the apocalypse.
Minus the Evans line and the the gel comment I agree with everything.

Here is why I disagree with a lot of what you said Bobre:

1.Harrison did look lost out there this year. I don't know what it was, but he was not as good this year as he was last year.
2.You take his body language with a grain of salt, but if I am not mistaken, you would analyze players and coaches body language. I think it was about Burrell not starting, and how he didn't like it. Meanwhile, he was so distressed he won BE 6th man of the year.
3. I think it is insane to to say suspending someone is "pussy tactics". Coaches have done that for years, and will continue to do it for years to come. That is a coach's last resort. Coaches a lot better than Lavin have suspended players, and players alot better than Harrison have been suspended. What should Lavin have done, given Harrison a trophy for trying? Moreover, when a school suspends a student, is that school resorting to "pussy tactics"? I don't know what you did, and who you managed, but the regular work environment and sports are different.
4. I have no idea how his teammates reacted to this, and neither do you. As far as the fans go, I think it is 50/50. As you can tell by a small sample size here, that is the case.
5. Yes Lavin must take resposibility for bringing him here, and he has tried to get Harrison's head straight. But sometimes, you use up all of your best management skills or poor ones if we listen to you, and simply cut bait.
6. First off to say the cupboard is bare, is exaggerating imo. We only have one scholarship for next year. The 2014 class is where we will see about recruiting.
7. I am not happy about this either. But Harrison has been brutal lately. We do not know why. Let's face it, Lavin was more than fair with him during the Pitt game, which was a detriment to the team. He couldn't do anything right that game.

I could be wrong about all of this. But having gone through Jarvis/Roberts, I am willing to give this staff some more rope. I know this team is going to the post season this year. And while it will be only the NIT, it is a step in the right direction. Next year I expect nothing less than the NCAAs. I still want to look at things in perpective because the alternative is speaking on emotion, and sounding silly.
 
This reminds me (a bit) of the Titus Young situation up in Detroit. Lots of criticism heaped on the Lions coaching staff for shelving one of their best playmakers midseason, but their decision has been vindicated. Like I said, I can't think of what it would take to suspend a kid at this point in the season, but it must have been pretty horrible.
 
This program is bush league

Why the program is bush league?

Easy response.... No accountability and it goes all the way up to Monasch.

The staff has to be held accountable for the 3 ineligible players last season, Nurideen Lindsey, Orlando, D'Angelo. The program is a mess.

I feel like Lavin is getting a free pass for a lot of the stuff.

so suspending a player that breaks rules(harrison), and getting rid of a problematic player (lindsey) is not taking accountability and control of your program?
what planet are you living on?


I live on planet Queens. Are you guys really saying that instead of managing egos it is better to just give a player the boot? Obviously the players have a responsibility but you have to at least question the staff. It is their job to be teachers and mentors and help these kids develop. We know that D'Angelos attitude hasn't developed and I am also a little concerned about the development of the players on the court too. Besides Dom, the returning players haven't taken the strides we assumed they would. Eventually it is time to throw out the "We are young" excuse. They have played together for a while now.

Do you know what efforts were made by the coaching staff to mentor and "coach" Harrison on his behavior? It's an unfortunate situation, but to blame the coaches for Harrison's behavior is not fair. Even if the coaches did absolutely nothing to mentor Harrison, he is directly responsible for his own behavior. Having said that, I hope he comes back.

The program had become bush league but we are clearly working our way out of that category.

Harrision's self-absorption was evident to anyone but a blind man.

I applaud Lavin's move because he pulled the trigger regardless of the consequences for our post-season chances.

I hope that making Harrison accountable for his behavior results in a turn for the better in his life.

Whether or not he could accomplish that here at St John's is a question only Harrison himself can answer.

I can honestly say that I never saw Dlo dog it once this year. The shots he took were the ones he ws hitting last year so I have no problem with that. Despite his slump he's still third in the league in scoring and I don't know how you can question that. He has passed creatively throughout and I take all the body language comments with a grain of salt. I watched Lavin decrease Sean Evans time to an average of twelve minutes after taking credit for him being a great reclamation project. Frankly I think Lavin is FOS in many ways and I wwonder if that's snake oil in his hair instead of gel. You have to be able to relate to all kinds of players in this racket without resorting to pussy tactics like suspensions. I dealt with a lot of recalcitrant employees over the years but suspensions were rare and just considered a failure to manage. Ultimately though it's the fans and his team mates who pay the price for this BS. Let's remember that Lavin was the guy who brought him here and his performance is part of his responsibility. I key in every day looking for good news about the program but more often than not it's crap like this. I can't see where this will provide any benefit to recruiting going forward and right now the cupboard seems pretty bare to me. I'm disgusted to say the least

This post gave me quite a laugh.

Suspending D'Angelo is a tactic?

You, nor I, nor anyone here knows how often D'Angelo was talked to by the staff. We don't know what was the reason for D'Angelo to get suspended even before we played an exhibition game.

So please spare your tactics argument in lieu of 18 PPG.

This hurts recruitment in your eyes? How so? Recruits will have to realize that they can't have their way?

We're screwed

I worked with a manager who used to suspend people left and right. Then his boss realized that his employees were screwing him at every turn and the job wasn't getting done. Shortly thereafter he was demoted and shelved. There again your results say what you are. If you can't see how suspending your best player and possibly having him walk will affect recruiting you know absolutely nothing about the game. Kids come for one reason- to make it to the pros. Coaches who suspend their players put their careers in jeopardy and it had better be for a good reason. "Unbecoming conduct" says nothing but creates all kinds of potentially costly doubts about a player's character. In the absence of specifics I'd be really reluctant to place my career prospects in such hands.

I've been in the same workforce situation with the constant warnings, firings, etc.

When you call D'Angelo the best player on the team, be careful. D'Angelo is a very talented shooter who has the greenest of green lights. Let's not get carried away here though. He is not the type of player that can get you over the hump until he puts it all together. He hadn't shown that he can do that. If he did, it would've translated to a better shot selection as a Sophomore and more wins.

As someone said earlier, D'Angelo did nothing to make his teammates better. Sure, he bailed us out on many occasion. But his game did not evolve. Maybe it would've next year. Who knows.

But that's the chance that HE took. Not the staff. D'Angelo.

He's not a player of the year candidate like Iverson. He's a kid that can score but can't do much more than that. It behooved him to play his role and see if the staff could get him where he wanted to go (pros) and in turn, get us wins.

He blew both shots.
 
This program is bush league

Why the program is bush league?

Easy response.... No accountability and it goes all the way up to Monasch.

The staff has to be held accountable for the 3 ineligible players last season, Nurideen Lindsey, Orlando, D'Angelo. The program is a mess.

I feel like Lavin is getting a free pass for a lot of the stuff.

so suspending a player that breaks rules(harrison), and getting rid of a problematic player (lindsey) is not taking accountability and control of your program?
what planet are you living on?


I live on planet Queens. Are you guys really saying that instead of managing egos it is better to just give a player the boot? Obviously the players have a responsibility but you have to at least question the staff. It is their job to be teachers and mentors and help these kids develop. We know that D'Angelos attitude hasn't developed and I am also a little concerned about the development of the players on the court too. Besides Dom, the returning players haven't taken the strides we assumed they would. Eventually it is time to throw out the "We are young" excuse. They have played together for a while now.

Do you know what efforts were made by the coaching staff to mentor and "coach" Harrison on his behavior? It's an unfortunate situation, but to blame the coaches for Harrison's behavior is not fair. Even if the coaches did absolutely nothing to mentor Harrison, he is directly responsible for his own behavior. Having said that, I hope he comes back.

The program had become bush league but we are clearly working our way out of that category.

Harrision's self-absorption was evident to anyone but a blind man.

I applaud Lavin's move because he pulled the trigger regardless of the consequences for our post-season chances.

I hope that making Harrison accountable for his behavior results in a turn for the better in his life.

Whether or not he could accomplish that here at St John's is a question only Harrison himself can answer.

I can honestly say that I never saw Dlo dog it once this year. The shots he took were the ones he ws hitting last year so I have no problem with that. Despite his slump he's still third in the league in scoring and I don't know how you can question that. He has passed creatively throughout and I take all the body language comments with a grain of salt. I watched Lavin decrease Sean Evans time to an average of twelve minutes after taking credit for him being a great reclamation project. Frankly I think Lavin is FOS in many ways and I wwonder if that's snake oil in his hair instead of gel. You have to be able to relate to all kinds of players in this racket without resorting to pussy tactics like suspensions. I dealt with a lot of recalcitrant employees over the years but suspensions were rare and just considered a failure to manage. Ultimately though it's the fans and his team mates who pay the price for this BS. Let's remember that Lavin was the guy who brought him here and his performance is part of his responsibility. I key in every day looking for good news about the program but more often than not it's crap like this. I can't see where this will provide any benefit to recruiting going forward and right now the cupboard seems pretty bare to me. I'm disgusted to say the least

This post gave me quite a laugh.

Suspending D'Angelo is a tactic?

You, nor I, nor anyone here knows how often D'Angelo was talked to by the staff. We don't know what was the reason for D'Angelo to get suspended even before we played an exhibition game.

So please spare your tactics argument in lieu of 18 PPG.

This hurts recruitment in your eyes? How so? Recruits will have to realize that they can't have their way?

We're screwed

I worked with a manager who used to suspend people left and right. Then his boss realized that his employees were screwing him at every turn and the job wasn't getting done. Shortly thereafter he was demoted and shelved. There again your results say what you are. If you can't see how suspending your best player and possibly having him walk will affect recruiting you know absolutely nothing about the game. Kids come for one reason- to make it to the pros. Coaches who suspend their players put their careers in jeopardy and it had better be for a good reason. "Unbecoming conduct" says nothing but creates all kinds of potentially costly doubts about a player's character. In the absence of specifics I'd be really reluctant to place my career prospects in such hands.

I must disagree with you, these are very different and unrelatable situations.

Harrison has an attitude and everyone in basketball circles and outside already knows it.
We all also know how much a players attitude and off the court antics have on NBA draft and pro recruiting, many good players with bad attitudes have been bounced off NBA teams (Marbury, Iverson), Now I'm not saying he is going to make it to the NBA, but think of it this way, he has a bad attitude, gets suspended for the rest of the season, then comes back with the best and most positive attitude and leads his team (actually leads) to a national ranking and a run in the NCAA Tournament what does that say to you? what will the experts in the basketball circles say about him? how will everyone's thought change about this great shooter that plays with his heart on his sleeve? is that making him a better person a better player, a better team?

This is a life lesson, and if Harrison takes it the right way, change, and comes back, I cant wait for next season!!! ^5

That's the problem today, many many instances of tough love don't get through because there is someone there rubbing their back and saying don't worry its not your fault, lets go somewhere else, so someone can baby you. That is just running away from them problem, and facing it at a different time.

IMO this all goes back to the belief that everyone who competes in little league and pee wee gets a trophy today.
 
Selfish move by Lav- this pisses me off to no end-- does he think of the other players who busted their butts all season? Unless Harrison flat out refused to practice, or cursed a coach out-- this suspension is ridiculous.

This is crazy talk.

His 18 PPG does not give him a free pass to do whatever he wants however and whenever he wants to do it. Point blank. End of story.

It's not crazy talk, Ihave watched Harrison play he wants to WIN. So what he shakes his head a lot.

If he wanted to win so badly, he would've learned from his very first suspension. Am I missing something?

Call me stupid, but I think the team will rally without him. Jakarr has a chance to show he Providence fans what they missed out on. Marco will get more shots up. And I think the team will have a much more positive vibe to it.

Look for Dom to take the leadership role.
 
Just as we get some good news, here comes a kick in the nuts to bring us back to reality.
+1. But we should be used to this. IE great recruiting class, then in elegibilties.etc.
 
I feel for D'Angelo, as this kind of suspension can significantly hurt his chances of earning a paycheck playing basketball, wherever that may be. I do hope that he can come back to St. John's next year and continue to play and go to school here. I guess I'm not surprised by the extreme opinions here (I for one still don't know what led to the suspension, other than the behavior I've seen in games, so I won't pass judgment) but he's been suspended, not kicked off the team, so I disagree with those who just want to give his scholarship to someone new and throw the kid away. But I do agree with the sentiment among many that a player, no matter his production, needs to be disciplined - for the good of the team. I can assure you that anyone who's played team sports knows how detrimental a player can be to the rest of his teammates if he's not held accountable for his actions. This suspension is made with the other players in mind, not in spite of them, and clearly the interests in the other players outweighed D'Angelo's interests and production.
One last thing, I'm sad about all this agenda pushing/argument baiting that goes on here. Lavin is the head coach, some posters need to get over it. D'Angelo is one of ours unless he or the staff decide otherwise, and posters should be cognizant that players - not just the ones they dislike - are able to see the support (or lack their of) of our posters. There's a reason I include my face with my screen name.

+1000. Best post I've read in a long time. This single post (not the thread) should be stickied at the top.
 
I still love Harrison. We need him...it's best for him to get things straightened out and remain at STJ. It's frustrting for him becuase nobody else on this team has his skill. Next year we could be a top 10 team and Harrison will be the leading scorer.
In order for Harrison to be back here as the leading scorer, he has got to wanna be here. Him getting himself suspended gets me thinking he doesn't wanna be here. His play has slipped and more then likely it's the fault of others. It was thrown around that he said he was good for 2 years, and maybe that was to long. If a guy wants to be here he don't get himself thrown off the team. A few of the guys have seen their minutes goin up and down. Any problems? I think Harrison have ok game, but not on the level others here think it to be. I have not however thrown him any shots since his game been going backwards. What I haven't liked is him lookin like he not all that happy to be here. I understand I could be all wet thinking that, but I do. Of course if he's putting up 28 a game, maybe he don't want any suspension. But that must be someones fault.
 
Sometimes good players cause very bad chemistry on a team because of their attitude. Two years ago Jay Wright had the same problem with Corey Fisher. That very formidable Villanova team did nothing that year. Although I hope D'Angelo decides to stay, we may be better off without him
 
hi first of all dangelo is a head case i personally think he sees his nba chances going down the drain and is starting to see he needs out to maybe a midmajor to get himself a chance again. also this team is jinxed i dont know what to say anymore other then see you next year. also people are acting like rasheed is a lock please he is 90 percent going to temple and now no harrison we better pray he wants to come back or tourney is no lock next year either.
 
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