Harrison suspended rest of the year
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Moose
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Apples to Oranges. Most college coaches will not rip 'kids' publicly like a pro coach would rip someone being paid millions.
That being said while comparisons are nice to envision things and paint a nice picture you put them in the hands of unreasonable people who then hold them up to a pedestal. Marco is not Steve Kerr or John Paxson. And should never have been called that. Dwight Hardy was not the best shooter Lavin has ever coached. etc....
I've been as big of a supporter of Harrison as anyone here, but have come to realize he is not the scorer we make him out to be. He put up big numbers against weaker competition early in the season and has been a train wreck over the past month.
Look at his Feb numbers:
Pitt 1-12
USF 5-11
L'ville 6-19
Cuse 4-13
Uconn 3-12
Georgetown 0-9
Total 19-76 (25%)
Can we replace a 25% shooter? I think so. In fact, we probably improve offensively without him right now.
That said, it seems the young man has some issues. Tough step by the staff, but probably the right one. I'm confident the suspension is in the best interests of the team and school; I hope it helps D'lo get squared around as well.
Look at his Feb numbers:
Pitt 1-12
USF 5-11
L'ville 6-19
Cuse 4-13
Uconn 3-12
Georgetown 0-9
Total 19-76 (25%)
Can we replace a 25% shooter? I think so. In fact, we probably improve offensively without him right now.
That said, it seems the young man has some issues. Tough step by the staff, but probably the right one. I'm confident the suspension is in the best interests of the team and school; I hope it helps D'lo get squared around as well.
STJ11Redmen
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I initially had the same reaction as simplyred. My thinking was with Sanchez next year and Sampson/Obekpa developing we have the opportunity for a huge season but we need everyone buying into the team concept and if Harrison doesn't want to do that then he won't help us next season when we have additional scoring options who are team players.
This post gave me quite a laugh.
Suspending D'Angelo is a tactic?
You, nor I, nor anyone here knows how often D'Angelo was talked to by the staff. We don't know what was the reason for D'Angelo to get suspended even before we played an exhibition game.
So please spare your tactics argument in lieu of 18 PPG.
This hurts recruitment in your eyes? How so? Recruits will have to realize that they can't have their way?
We're screwed
I am a big fan of Harrison and I love how he plays with his heart on his sleeve, I really hope he learns from this and comes back next year, I think he is a great addition to our team and with the right attitude he can help us in great ways. Lavin knows this, and that is what he is trying to get out of him, its a work in progress but I hope he takes it the right way and comes back, I don't want to see him go.
just wanted to write some positive comments about the kid because i do like his style of play, adn I applaud Lavin but I also dont want the kid to leave the team.
I will keep calling him the kid because he needs to mature, there are guys in the NBA that are still kids and havent matured, Laving is trying to change that, I hope Harrison realizes and comes back.
Just like Lavin told Chiles, this is not a 4 year commitment from me to you, this is a lifetime commitment.
just wanted to write some positive comments about the kid because i do like his style of play, adn I applaud Lavin but I also dont want the kid to leave the team.
I will keep calling him the kid because he needs to mature, there are guys in the NBA that are still kids and havent matured, Laving is trying to change that, I hope Harrison realizes and comes back.
Just like Lavin told Chiles, this is not a 4 year commitment from me to you, this is a lifetime commitment.
I have seen Dom on several occassions "pump" up his teammeates and to a lesser extent, Obekpa and Balamou. Throwing DH under the bus? It seems he's earned his reputation based on multiple suspensions and poor attitude. You can call it "passion" if you like.
Evans was stereotyped as an attitude problem type after refusing a transfer, and screwed over until Dunlap went to bat for him. He was a voice of reason that no longer exists on the program right now. How many assistants do you need before you field a solid Program? We're paying hundreds of thousands of bucks for a program that sucks against anyone half way decent. That would be OK if we had a stable of talent ready to come in but there's nobody in the wings so far while kids are signing everywhere. I think we're being sold a bill of goods but BS can only take you so far. Unfortunately there is noone connected with SJU that would ever have the balls to take Lavin to task for all that's gone wrong. I could write a feature article about his personnel mistakes to date and that has nothing to do with his well known shortcomings on the court.
TX Redman
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Disappointing, but hardly surprising. Too bad it had to come to this for everyone involved but this has been festering for a while now and the signs were there. I support Coach Lavin, no one player is bigger than the program and everyone needs to be on the same page. Stroppy attitude should not be tolerated.
buckethead
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BEFORE anyone moans I am not blaming D'Angelo's attitude on Norm Roberts...
A lot of this goes back to where we were left in terms of having a class full of seniors and no underclassmen. D'Angelo came in and as a freshmen had an opportunity to become a leader and make a huge impact on this program. He did come in and scored like very very few freshmen in the league ever have...BUT he did this because of a lack of upperclassmen. If he comes into a program any other program with legitmate D1 major conference talents on the team he plays at most 20 minutes per game as a freshmen. He had a golden opportunity and took that opportunity to score points but is not taking the opportunity to be a leader. A leader is about team. A leader is about winning. IMHO I feel like his role as a leader has evoled (or devolved) into a case of thinking he is the team. Norm Roberts left a situation that many of us moaned about. D'Angelo should have celebrated it and embraced ALL of the opportunities to showcase himself. Instead he is clearly letting an ego inflated by playing nearly every minute as a freshmen, on a freshmen led team, destoy the golden opportunity that was presented to him by starring on a BE team as a freshman. If he xfers...well I wish him good luck becoming the follower because he won't be going somewhere where he will be being groomed to be a leader. He is merely going to be just another piece wherever else he lands...kind of sad if you ask me.
That being said I hope he comes back and plays to his potential and acts as a leader.
I don't think the sky is falling either. Let Branch run an offense that focuses on ball movement instead of just defensive scoring....get Borgault more looks off of screens, teach the Bigs to outlet pass better to an open shooter, develop some plays for Sampson to better utilize his midrange jumper at the ft line elbow etc....
There are still a lot of tools on this team and writing them off because one person is gone is premature. We need to see what the coaching staff cooks up.
A lot of this goes back to where we were left in terms of having a class full of seniors and no underclassmen. D'Angelo came in and as a freshmen had an opportunity to become a leader and make a huge impact on this program. He did come in and scored like very very few freshmen in the league ever have...BUT he did this because of a lack of upperclassmen. If he comes into a program any other program with legitmate D1 major conference talents on the team he plays at most 20 minutes per game as a freshmen. He had a golden opportunity and took that opportunity to score points but is not taking the opportunity to be a leader. A leader is about team. A leader is about winning. IMHO I feel like his role as a leader has evoled (or devolved) into a case of thinking he is the team. Norm Roberts left a situation that many of us moaned about. D'Angelo should have celebrated it and embraced ALL of the opportunities to showcase himself. Instead he is clearly letting an ego inflated by playing nearly every minute as a freshmen, on a freshmen led team, destoy the golden opportunity that was presented to him by starring on a BE team as a freshman. If he xfers...well I wish him good luck becoming the follower because he won't be going somewhere where he will be being groomed to be a leader. He is merely going to be just another piece wherever else he lands...kind of sad if you ask me.
That being said I hope he comes back and plays to his potential and acts as a leader.
I don't think the sky is falling either. Let Branch run an offense that focuses on ball movement instead of just defensive scoring....get Borgault more looks off of screens, teach the Bigs to outlet pass better to an open shooter, develop some plays for Sampson to better utilize his midrange jumper at the ft line elbow etc....
There are still a lot of tools on this team and writing them off because one person is gone is premature. We need to see what the coaching staff cooks up.
Good to be back 
!!! I do not think a program should have to deal with a young man and his ego thats wants or thinks he is bigger or more importantthan the team. This young man is a good COLLEGE play who will not be a NBA player .. he is a volume scorer not a quality scorer. within the frame work of a major top 15 program he will not be a 1,2 or 3 option. he is a nice player. he is good for a team like us on the improve but he might do more harm than good. other players look at him and see no authority with the coaching staff if they see this and we have been trying for the last year to work with him.imo I think the coaching staff has been more than kind and given the young man many chances. If I am the parentof a good recruit I would not like to see a coach let a kid get away with acting that way I would send my kid to a PROGRAM where the coach has a clear vision , can recruit and runs a solid ship.
!!! I do not think a program should have to deal with a young man and his ego thats wants or thinks he is bigger or more importantthan the team. This young man is a good COLLEGE play who will not be a NBA player .. he is a volume scorer not a quality scorer. within the frame work of a major top 15 program he will not be a 1,2 or 3 option. he is a nice player. he is good for a team like us on the improve but he might do more harm than good. other players look at him and see no authority with the coaching staff if they see this and we have been trying for the last year to work with him.imo I think the coaching staff has been more than kind and given the young man many chances. If I am the parentof a good recruit I would not like to see a coach let a kid get away with acting that way I would send my kid to a PROGRAM where the coach has a clear vision , can recruit and runs a solid ship.
beast of the east
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Guys with the experience of a Lavin and his top notch staff doesn't bounce a troubled kid who has crossed the line once. LEt's be certain - today's coaches have to be much more tolerant of bad behavior than coaches 25 years ago. Remember how PJ Carlesimo was blamed by some for getting choked by Latrell Sprewell - for trying to bring old school college discipline to the pros. I'm confident that if Harrison was suspended, it was for good reason and not by a staff throwing him under the bus or abandoning him because he's played like garbage.,