Hmm....
Georgetown (MSG), Tue., Jan. 14 , 7:30p, PEACOCK
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Hmm....
How about a " Must not lose game ? "
I just hope if we lose we’re still in Lunardi’s CBI bracket.
Repole just gave Lunardi a jockey job
So we have a smaller total margin of defeat than every team in the nation but one, yet 27 teams have a better NET than we do? Plus, all but two of our wins have been by double digits? This is why it doesn't add up to me, but without the formula being public it's impossible to know why our NET isn't closer to other analytics sites.
If I had to guess, without getting into a conspiracy that the NCAA is rigging the system against us (we're not that important), I guess it's because a lot of our double digit wins were by ~10 rather than ~20+. NET caps the margin of victory/defeat at 10, but if you run up the score there's no cap on other parts of the formula such as offensive and defensive efficiency. Still think we should be about 10 spots higher, though...
Not an expert in any way, but my impression is that our SOS and performance in those quad 1 games, and less of them, hurts us comparatively. But I agree with you, as Robot used to say “it does not compute Will Robinson”. (Apologies to those under 50 years old).
Just keep winning at home, pick up some more road victories over teams we are clearly better than, split w UConn & M’Q and all will be very good in “Pitino World.”
Johnnies317
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Definitely not must win being a Q2 game but that being said we should to win this one. Gtown in watching them is much improved but they aren’t at our level currently and we are home. We will likely be close to double digits favorites. Keep stacking wins!
Last year since it was March and we were on the bubble (plus it ended up being a close game), but in terms of mattering from Georgetown's perspective, too? 2015 when both St. John's and Georgetown last went to the Tournament during the same year. Since then St. John's only went to the First Four in 2019 and Georgetown in 2021 with their miracle BET run.
This conference is a lot more fun when both St. John's and Georgetown are relevant, glad we're finally returning to that level of play.
Opponents. Strength of schedule.
Moose
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Huh?
How is a game when you project to be double digit favorites not a must win? If you lose that game its a disaster.
Many want to scoff at the notion of must win but its a game that like you said should be a no doubter. You lose those games and you're biting your fingernails on Selection Sunday. If that's not the definition of a must win I don't know what is.
Valid points but I still think we should be a lot higher than #28. If NET factors in margin of victory/loss significantly less than KenPom and the other analytics sites then it'd make more sense to me (maybe that's the case?).
As Paultzman said though, just keep winning and we'll wind up with a good seed on Selection Sunday. We're in a solid spot already.
And cannot wait for the “We are St. John’s…” chants that we will bring back and fill the Garden.
We've got one quad win. Why does that not add up?
We're a better team than our resume. But our resume isn't very good
The #3 NET team Houston is 0-3 in Quad 1 games. We're not much better at 1-3, but as you know it's by a combined 5 points. Also the number of Quad wins doesn't factor into the NET formula itself, it only matters for seeding purposes when combining the NET and Quad records.
Just saying our NET is worse than any analytics site out there and it's confusing why, but don't want to further derail this thread since it's about Georgetown. (If a mod wants go and move these posts to the rankings thread lol)
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I also found Texas Tech's resume perplexing as well.
Georgetown will be a solid Q2 win.
Redmen88
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Looking at the schedule if you exclude Marquette and UConn, which games would u consider those that are not must win?
Once we beat Marquette and UConn, two teams I think we can certainly beat, then I'll feel some buffer.
And cannot wait for the “We are St. John’s…” chants that we will bring back and fill the Garden.
Let's Go Redmen! or bust.