[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=358026][quote="Logen" post=358022][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=358018][quote="Logen" post=358015][quote="alexander salem" post=358007][quote="Logen" post=358000][quote="alexander salem" post=357987][quote="Logen" post=357972][quote="Rob" post=357970]Last time was early Lavin. Chiles was the horse, Rico was involved and Lavin was great at building relationships quickly and seemingly always in touch with tons of both top and attainable prospects. Dunlap wasn't, of course, but with Lavin bringing his A game we could get away with leaving Dunlap in the lab to run practices, game plans, etc.[/quote]
This staff has done more real recruiting in 5 months than Lavin or Mullin and their staffs did in 7-8 years.[/quote]
Lavin pulled in a top 3 class his first year. Mullin and Co. were also recruiting very aggressively the first few months they were hired (Rawle Alkins, Thon Maker, Heron as a HS Senior). Obviously we know how both regimes turned out. Let's stop trying to create a false narrative and give our current staff time before we start giving them all the accolades in the world. I am excited too but CMA is doing what every other D1 Coach does their first few months on the job.[/quote]
You know not of what you speak......no false narrative; neither Lavin nor Mullin had any recruiting strategy; never mind the implementation of one. Maybe for different reasons, neither laid the groundwork for recruiting sustainment and growth, hence the program under both went nowhere.
Anderson and team are out working their butts off laying that foundation, and yes it is what every D1 coach does and Anderson is doing it because he is a pro, Lavin and Mullin did not because they weren't. Maybe each or both had legitimate reasons but neither did "what every other D1 Coach does" and it showed.[/quote]
Hindsight Bias. You're letting the previous staff's years of failure affect what you thought of them when they first got hired.[/quote]
Huh?? Of course it is hindsight; how else do you judge someone's performance until after they have performed? I never read a concert review before the music stopped. For the record, I hated the Lavin hire and thought Mullin would eventually be an off the charts terrific coach when he was hired. Obviously he did not even begin to apply his legendary work ethic during his stay here. Just curious, so your point is no one should form an opinion different than the opinion they had before something starts, in this case a coaching tenure? It must be nice to be clairvoyant.[/quote]
I think his point is that for the first 5-6 months Mullin, and definitely Lavin, we’re busting their ass on the recruiting trail. It didn’t last. I have no reason to believe it won’t last with Anderson but I believe Alex is just suggesting to wait to see how our coaches work ethic is 3-4 years from now.[/quote]
His cracks about false narratives and hindsight bias is not making a legitimate point to me, and it is me he was addressing. MY point is that Anderson and company have not just "busted their butts" in the first 5 months for this year and 2020 but they are also actively and personally laying the groundwork for recruiting 2-4 years from now, something Lavin nor Mullin never did in their cumulative 7-8 years. NEVER....Anderson is a pro with a plan being implemented from jump street, Feel free to disagree but I know what I saw and I know what I see.[/quote]
Wasn’t attacking you. Now on I’ll remember never to jump into a discussion you’re having on a discussion board.[/quote]
Nonsense, of course you were. I came back at you, that's the way it works. Dinkins never passes up a chance to dig at me, he did it on this thread and that is fine, we have been doing it for years and we virtually never agree but I certainly respect the man. Would love to meet him, have a beer and go at it in person. I guarantee we would have some laughs.
This staff has done more real recruiting in 5 months than Lavin or Mullin and their staffs did in 7-8 years.[/quote]
Lavin pulled in a top 3 class his first year. Mullin and Co. were also recruiting very aggressively the first few months they were hired (Rawle Alkins, Thon Maker, Heron as a HS Senior). Obviously we know how both regimes turned out. Let's stop trying to create a false narrative and give our current staff time before we start giving them all the accolades in the world. I am excited too but CMA is doing what every other D1 Coach does their first few months on the job.[/quote]
You know not of what you speak......no false narrative; neither Lavin nor Mullin had any recruiting strategy; never mind the implementation of one. Maybe for different reasons, neither laid the groundwork for recruiting sustainment and growth, hence the program under both went nowhere.
Anderson and team are out working their butts off laying that foundation, and yes it is what every D1 coach does and Anderson is doing it because he is a pro, Lavin and Mullin did not because they weren't. Maybe each or both had legitimate reasons but neither did "what every other D1 Coach does" and it showed.[/quote]
Hindsight Bias. You're letting the previous staff's years of failure affect what you thought of them when they first got hired.[/quote]
Huh?? Of course it is hindsight; how else do you judge someone's performance until after they have performed? I never read a concert review before the music stopped. For the record, I hated the Lavin hire and thought Mullin would eventually be an off the charts terrific coach when he was hired. Obviously he did not even begin to apply his legendary work ethic during his stay here. Just curious, so your point is no one should form an opinion different than the opinion they had before something starts, in this case a coaching tenure? It must be nice to be clairvoyant.[/quote]
I think his point is that for the first 5-6 months Mullin, and definitely Lavin, we’re busting their ass on the recruiting trail. It didn’t last. I have no reason to believe it won’t last with Anderson but I believe Alex is just suggesting to wait to see how our coaches work ethic is 3-4 years from now.[/quote]
His cracks about false narratives and hindsight bias is not making a legitimate point to me, and it is me he was addressing. MY point is that Anderson and company have not just "busted their butts" in the first 5 months for this year and 2020 but they are also actively and personally laying the groundwork for recruiting 2-4 years from now, something Lavin nor Mullin never did in their cumulative 7-8 years. NEVER....Anderson is a pro with a plan being implemented from jump street, Feel free to disagree but I know what I saw and I know what I see.[/quote]
Wasn’t attacking you. Now on I’ll remember never to jump into a discussion you’re having on a discussion board.[/quote]
Nonsense, of course you were. I came back at you, that's the way it works. Dinkins never passes up a chance to dig at me, he did it on this thread and that is fine, we have been doing it for years and we virtually never agree but I certainly respect the man. Would love to meet him, have a beer and go at it in person. I guarantee we would have some laughs.
