FLORIDA - Relocating

Re: Florida income tax.   You MUST be a Florida resident of at least 6 months and a day.   You may get away with a little less if your income is low, but they will audit and enforce, and with everything electronic (credit cards, cell phone GPS connect to towers, Flight history, EZ Pass, License plate readers) you can easily get caught

Real Estate taxes - In many or most counties get reset based on purchase price to about 1%.   You can buy something with low taxes, but the more you pay, the RE taxes can actually exceed NY or other places.

Real Estate prices - Have absolutely gone to the stratosphere during Covid and now that baby boomers are passing 65.   Florida prices can actually go down in a recession due to the vast number of second homes.   Prices tail off considerably the further you go inland, but waterfront prices in many areas can be more expensive than the Hamptons.

Weather - For about every 10 miles further south you go, weather gets a little warmer.   Jacksonville can get snow, but Miami rarely goes below 50 at night, and even 50s is unusual there.   Even Orlando can get weather in the 30s, although rare.  If you like 3 seasons, look in the north.  

Preference: Southeast coast is densely populated near the shore with many residents from NYC Metro.    The traffic can be brutal since populations increased dramatically inland after roadways were built.   I was in Fort Lauderdale in October pre-Covid and Fort Lauderdale Blvd, which borders a narrow sliver of beach, was bumper to bumper most of the day.   If you like Ocean waves, east coast has that.    West Coast - mostly midwesterners, with some NYC Metro.   Much better traffic pattterns in newer growth communities.   Many beach communities have restricted access so if you live close to or on the water, won't contend with hordes of beachgoers.  

Car Insurance - I have plenty of relatives in SW Fla, and they tell me car insurance is more expensive than NE, due to older bad drivers.

Electricity - dirt cheap compared to NYC, and the further south you go you won't even need heat in the winter.  

Crime - With few exceptions, many places in Florida have very low or non existent person on person crime.   Florida police don't mess around, and there is little catch and release.

Restaurants - Where I visit in Naples, restaurants are more expensive than on Long Island in general and packed every night of the season.

Cultural Arts - depending where you are, are pretty good, but don't expect anything like Broadway or multiple concert arenas.

 
 
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go florida

naples is easily the most expensive place on floridas west coast. one of the most expensive places in florida.
after a brief stay in florida, you will know where to eat well and cheaper than ny/li

17 years ago on li, i had 3 cars and allstate. brought all 3 cars to fl. same allstate coverage. 1/3 the price.

fl house costs $400k and that is a nice house. at 1%. that is yearly florida real estate bill of $4k.
who on li pays less than $8k.

the asolo theatre in sarasota like the 5th avenue theatre in seattle is where broadway plays are born.
many plays are tried there and some go on to broadway.
look at a sarasota playbill, nearly every performer is nyc based/trained.


  
 
Sarasota is well known known for its arts, In addition to the Asola Theater, there is the Van Wezel, Florida Studio, Black Entertainment, Players Theater and more. Additionall Sarasota has their own Opera House and symphony and ballet companies. Agree with Section 10. No way Real Estate Taxes and Auto Insurance are as high as NY.
 
My favorite place in Florida: Key West. 
Favorite west coast: Indian Rocks Beach - small little beach town south of bustling Clearwater. 
Favorite Atlantic Coast spot: Hutchinson Island - about an hour north of Palm Beach. 
Favorite interior community: none. to me if you're not near the beach, there's no point to Florida. Go to Arizona instead.
 
 
I heard homeowner’s insurance is very expensive.  True?
 
My mother and stepfather moved to Sun City Center (about 20 miles south of Tampa) a few years back.  They enjoy it immensely.  
 
house insurance $772, for house valued at $402k.
hurricane insurance $697. last year was $498
flood insurance $572 - only given through the federal government
i do not live in a flood zone. never had this insurance for the first 10 years here.
but after my wife toured long beach, long island after their flood, she insisted on this insurance.
floridians are evenly divided on getting flood insurance. half have it, half do not have it.

i agree - if florida, then live near one of the coasts.
 
Not that I've experienced. Our home insurance, compared to LI, is easily half. I will agree that real estate prices have gone bonkers. We're in a beautiful gated community in Venice. Houses that were built at $650K 2 years ago have now passed $1M as resales. A new community of 1,200 houses going up behind us has houses starting around $850K, and easily climbing to over $1.1M. I suspect in 2 or 3 years those same houses will be going for $1 5M plus. Absolutely crazy.
 
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And the Villages in Ocala are said to have the highest STD rate in the country.

I heard that’s fiction.
 
Beware of low insurance rates in florida.  You may never collect on a claim, no matter how clear cut it may seem to you or anyone.  I had UPC, literally liars and thieves.
 
I am buying a single family home in Boynton Beach in 55+ community. I have a chore with homeowner’s insurance. What do you do to get a fair premium on a home?
 
I am buying a single family home in Boynton Beach in 55+ community. I have a chore with homeowner’s insurance. What do you do to get a fair premium on a home?
Homeowners insurance is in flux in Florida.

We were insured by a national company that informed us in May that it was withdrawing from writing policies in the entire state. We then contacted a local independent agent in the area where the condo is who secured homeowners insurance for us but at an appropriate 40% increased premium.
 
I just heard back from a broker telling me the companies her firm deals with won’t quote because the roof is 20 years old.
 
I just heard back from a broker telling me the companies her firm deals with won’t quote because the roof is 20 years old.
I have a good roofer who just did an upgrade for me in anticipation of putting in solar in my Deerfield home. PM me if you need info. My insurance broker isn't bad either.
 
I have a good roofer who just did an upgrade for me in anticipation of putting in solar in my Deerfield home. PM me if you need info. My insurance broker isn't bad either.
Thanks.
 
Re: Florida income tax. You MUST be a Florida resident of at least 6 months and a day. You may get away with a little less if your income is low, but they will audit and enforce, and with everything electronic (credit cards, cell phone GPS connect to towers, Flight history, EZ Pass, License plate readers) you can easily get caught

Real Estate taxes - In many or most counties get reset based on purchase price to about 1%. You can buy something with low taxes, but the more you pay, the RE taxes can actually exceed NY or other places.

Real Estate prices - Have absolutely gone to the stratosphere during Covid and now that baby boomers are passing 65. Florida prices can actually go down in a recession due to the vast number of second homes. Prices tail off considerably the further you go inland, but waterfront prices in many areas can be more expensive than the Hamptons.

Weather - For about every 10 miles further south you go, weather gets a little warmer. Jacksonville can get snow, but Miami rarely goes below 50 at night, and even 50s is unusual there. Even Orlando can get weather in the 30s, although rare. If you like 3 seasons, look in the north.

Preference: Southeast coast is densely populated near the shore with many residents from NYC Metro. The traffic can be brutal since populations increased dramatically inland after roadways were built. I was in Fort Lauderdale in October pre-Covid and Fort Lauderdale Blvd, which borders a narrow sliver of beach, was bumper to bumper most of the day. If you like Ocean waves, east coast has that. West Coast - mostly midwesterners, with some NYC Metro. Much better traffic pattterns in newer growth communities. Many beach communities have restricted access so if you live close to or on the water, won't contend with hordes of beachgoers.

Car Insurance - I have plenty of relatives in SW Fla, and they tell me car insurance is more expensive than NE, due to older bad drivers.

Electricity - dirt cheap compared to NYC, and the further south you go you won't even need heat in the winter.

Crime - With few exceptions, many places in Florida have very low or non existent person on person crime. Florida police don't mess around, and there is little catch and release.

Restaurants - Where I visit in Naples, restaurants are more expensive than on Long Island in general and packed every night of the season.

Cultural Arts - depending where you are, are pretty good, but don't expect anything like Broadway or multiple concert arenas.
Broadway caliber plays in Palm beach, Broward and Dade counties. Great concerts at venues where the Panthers and Heat play and the Hard Rock hotel. Restaurants are plentiful and a lot of good ones, but not Manhattan caliber . Obviously nice beaches. Golf and tennis all year round.
No heating bills but AC brings electric bill up, so does a pool heater. SE Fl is congested and overall the cost of living is increasing and is far from cheap, like it used to be. My development in Boca, inland , has homes exceeding $2,000,000 .Also have to watch out for HOA fees , in my community it is expensive and only includes common grounds, no lawn cutting, water ,nor tree trimmings ,a real PITA. Road repairs within these communities are the responsibility of the community , not the town. Also have to watch out for assessments , which occur and are thousands of dollars. Trees have to be trimmed because of Hurricanes and is expensive. Hurricane and flood insurance also expensive. OTOH no income tax.
Hurricane season June till November. When a Hurricane strikes you could loose power for 3 weeks, not pleasant, nor is the preparation for a Hurricane.
Going to sell my house and cash in my chips because I am semiretired and my income is down and there’s a good chance I will be moving to North Carolina. Taxes much less then Fl , no outrageous HOA fees , lower cost of living.
Thats my honest assessment of SE Fl.
 
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