Fire Lavin!

[JohnnyFan]

It did not look like we had a play called when our team came out of every time out. Disappointing!!!

Thank you!!!! Isn't it amazing!?! What are they talking about during the timeout? Is it just Lavin making a bunch of corny analogies or telling them to play like a concert band, bla bla bla bla? Do they even have any plays? It drives me crazy that we call a timeout only to come back on the floor and look clueless.

One more question, since I am having no luck figuring out Coach Lavin's strategy. Does anyone recall us pressing at all on Saturday against Nova? I literally don't remember us pressing one time. This is a Nova team that almost threw away the game against Butler when pressured. For all the talk about our team being very athletic, but not good shooters, you would think we would press a little.

I am telling you.......this guy has me scratching my head something awful.

 

[Las Vegan]

The serial failure of SJU basketball coaches is the direct result of not having (since Jack Kaiser) a strong , competent athletic director, who knows how to run an athletic dept., is given the authority to operate, and is held accountable should he fail. What we don't need is corrupt, megalomaniac school presidents or ex-coaches, no matter how revered, being involved in choosing new coaches. Plenty of other schools get it right.

I'm curious. Could you list Jack Kaiser's accomplishments. Not trying to be antagonistic, but curious as to what he accomplished as AD while at St. Johns

Well, he was the long-time, successful baseball coach, and I believed assisted Louie with the basketball team. This was from the time you had 20 scholarship players and only two assistants. He was well regarded by his players, and followed Walter McLaughlin as Athletic Director. He was, along with the A.D.s from Providence and G'town, one of the main architects of the Original Big East Conference, in1980. His best hire was Dave Masur, the soccer coach, and his worst hire was Brian Mahoney, although Mahoney was Louie's long time assistant and was a very good player in college, at Manhattan, and I believe played briefly in the pros. Brian had a great first year, but went downhill in his next three years. Kaiser could have hired someone else, citing Mahoney's prior failure as Manhattan's head coach, but he chose to be loyal to Brian.
Also, and I remember reading this here, he was not a favorite of Harrington, and his retirement as athletic director was not entirely voluntary. Harrington preferred compliant administrators.
He was a solid guy, successful and well-respected in the sports community.

 

[beast of the east]

The serial failure of SJU basketball coaches is the direct result of not having (since Jack Kaiser) a strong , competent athletic director, who knows how to run an athletic dept., is given the authority to operate, and is held accountable should he fail. What we don't need is corrupt, megalomaniac school presidents or ex-coaches, no matter how revered, being involved in choosing new coaches. Plenty of other schools get it right.

I'm curious. Could you list Jack Kaiser's accomplishments. Not trying to be antagonistic, but curious as to what he accomplished as AD while at St. Johns

Well, he was the long-time, successful baseball coach, and I believed assisted Louie with the basketball team. This was from the time you had 20 scholarship players and only two assistants. He was well regarded by his players, and followed Walter McLaughlin as Athletic Director. He was, along with the A.D.s from Providence and G'town, one of the main architects of the Original Big East Conference, in1980. His best hire was Dave Masur, the soccer coach, and his worst hire was Brian Mahoney, although Mahoney was Louie's long time assistant and was a very good player in college, at Manhattan, and I believe played briefly in the pros. Brian had a great first year, but went downhill in his next three years. Kaiser could have hired someone else, citing Mahoney's prior failure as Manhattan's head coach, but he chose to be loyal to Brian.
Also, and I remember reading this here, he was not a favorite of Harrington, and his retirement as athletic director was not entirely voluntary. Harrington preferred compliant administrators.
He was a solid guy, successful and well-respected in the sports community.

Thanks for your reply. Did Kaiser hire Frank Mulzoff, when Looie went to the Nets, or was that before his time?

 

[Las Vegan]

Louie's last game was the loss to Al McGuire's Marquette club, in the '71 NIT championship. I believe McLaughlin was still the AD. Mulzoff was an asst. coach on that team, along with John Kresse.

 

[jerseyshorejohnny]

The serial failure of SJU basketball coaches is the direct result of not having (since Jack Kaiser) a strong , competent athletic director, who knows how to run an athletic dept., is given the authority to operate, and is held accountable should he fail. What we don't need is corrupt, megalomaniac school presidents or ex-coaches, no matter how revered, being involved in choosing new coaches. Plenty of other schools get it right.

I'm curious. Could you list Jack Kaiser's accomplishments. Not trying to be antagonistic, but curious as to what he accomplished as AD while at St. Johns

Well, he was the long-time, successful baseball coach, and I believed assisted Louie with the basketball team. This was from the time you had 20 scholarship players and only two assistants. He was well regarded by his players, and followed Walter McLaughlin as Athletic Director. He was, along with the A.D.s from Providence and G'town, one of the main architects of the Original Big East Conference, in1980. His best hire was Dave Masur, the soccer coach, and his worst hire was Brian Mahoney, although Mahoney was Louie's long time assistant and was a very good player in college, at Manhattan, and I believe played briefly in the pros. Brian had a great first year, but went downhill in his next three years. Kaiser could have hired someone else, citing Mahoney's prior failure as Manhattan's head coach, but he chose to be loyal to Brian.
Also, and I remember reading this here, he was not a favorite of Harrington, and his retirement as athletic director was not entirely voluntary. Harrington preferred compliant administrators.
He was a solid guy, successful and well-respected in the sports community.

His former players revere him. You will NEVER hear anyone say, even remotely, a negative thing about Mr. Kaiser.

A real "old school" gentleman and the quintessential example of the "ideal" St. John's graduate.

I believe he was National Baseball Player of the Year in 1947 or 48.

Coach Kaiser was the freshman basketball coach under Joe Lapchick, back in the day.

You are rght regarding your observation re FH.

Would strongly urge those, who can, to personally say "thank you" to Mr. Kaiser for all he has done for our alma mater at the annual baseball dinner on Thursday, January 30 at The Metropolitan Club on 5th and 60th.

There is no good reason, IMO, not to. Time is fleeting.

Coach Carnesecca (Age 89) and Coach Kaiser (Age 88) are The Last of The Mohicans (spelling ??). Both went to The Prep, The University, coached at St. John's, and can still be still seen, on a regular basis, on campus. Neither retired to Florida.

We will never see the likes of these two gentleman ever again.

All of us should be grateful for all they have done for SJU

Some may measure success solely in W's. Others, including myself, measure it in the way someone had a positive and lasting impact on another's life.

Jack and Lou did BOTH at SJU.

As someone remarked to me, without them we become SH.

 

[simplyred]

Well, he was the long-time, successful baseball coach, and I believed assisted Louie with the basketball team. This was from the time you had 20 scholarship players and only two assistants. He was well regarded by his players, and followed Walter McLaughlin as Athletic Director. He was, along with the A.D.s from Providence and G'town, one of the main architects of the Original Big East Conference, in1980. His best hire was Dave Masur, the soccer coach, and his worst hire was Brian Mahoney, although Mahoney was Louie's long time assistant and was a very good player in college, at Manhattan, and I believe played briefly in the pros. Brian had a great first year, but went downhill in his next three years. Kaiser could have hired someone else, citing Mahoney's prior failure as Manhattan's head coach, but he chose to be loyal to Brian.
Also, and I remember reading this here, he was not a favorite of Harrington, and his retirement as athletic director was not entirely voluntary. Harrington preferred compliant administrators.
He was a solid guy, successful and well-respected in the sports community.

His former players revere him. You will NEVER hear anyone say, even remotely, a negative thing about Mr. Kaiser.

A real "old school" gentleman and the quintessential example of the "ideal" St. John's graduate.

I believe he was National Baseball Player of the Year in 1947 or 48.

Coach Kaiser was the freshman basketball coach under Joe Lapchick, back in the day.

You are rght regarding your observation re FH.

Would strongly urge those, who can, to personally say "thank you" to Mr. Kaiser for all he has done for our alma mater at the annual baseball dinner on Thursday, January 30 at The Metropolitan Club on 5th and 60th.

There is no good reason, IMO, not to. Time is fleeting.

Coach Carnesecca (Age 89) and Coach Kaiser (Age 88) are The Last of The Mohicans (spelling ??). Both went to The Prep, The University, coached at St. John's, and can still be still seen, on a regular basis, on campus. Neither retired to Florida.

We will never see the likes of these two gentleman ever again.

All of us should be grateful for all they have done for SJU

Some may measure success solely in W's. Others, including myself, measure it in the way someone had a positive and lasting impact on another's life.

Jack and Lou did BOTH at SJU.

As someone remarked to me, without them we become SH.

Although I only know Louie from being a fan (a good friend of mine is a personal friend of his), and I know Mr. kaiser even less, this is an excellent post about two very well respected gentlemen. Their contribution to the University extends beyond wins in the sports arena.

 

[Redmen07]

It did not look like we had a play called when our team came out of every time out. Disappointing!!!

Thank you!!!! Isn't it amazing!?! What are they talking about during the timeout? Is it just Lavin making a bunch of corny analogies or telling them to play like a concert band, bla bla bla bla? Do they even have any plays? It drives me crazy that we call a timeout only to come back on the floor and look clueless.

One more question, since I am having no luck figuring out Coach Lavin's strategy. Does anyone recall us pressing at all on Saturday against Nova? I literally don't remember us pressing one time. This is a Nova team that almost threw away the game against Butler when pressured. For all the talk about our team being very athletic, but not good shooters, you would think we would press a little.

I am telling you.......this guy has me scratching my head something awful.

Why on the rare occasion we press is it a soft man to man? Nova runs a great full court trap. With our athleticism we should be doing that all game!

 

[1and1sju]

I'll say it.. Lavin needs to go.
I don't need to see how the season plays out, I've seen enough.
For once I'd like to see SJU ahead of the curve. Instead of waiting 4 more years, let's be proactive.

 

[tom in salem]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

 

[queensbridge]

I'll say it.. Lavin needs to go.
I don't need to see how the season plays out, I've seen enough.
For once I'd like to see SJU ahead of the curve. Instead of waiting 4 more years, let's be proactive.

Count on the slow painful death

 

[1and1sju]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

Exactly. This is a guy who was collecting DNPs and had never hit a clutch shot in his career ...why are we all of a sudden experimenting with him in clutch time?

Greene and Pointer aren't perfect, far from it, but Ive seen them win games before. They've been in that situation before.

 

[jr49]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

One of our guys had him for a wide open look that changes the whole stretch. Of course it's Lavins fault that the pass was not made and a play that followed buried us. Kid was tired. Lavins mistake was playing him to many minutes if you want him alert down the stretch.

 

[Jack Williams]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

One of our guys had him for a wide open look that changes the whole stretch. Of course it's Lavins fault that the pass was not made and a play that followed buried us. Kid was tired. Lavins mistake was playing him to many minutes if you want him alert down the stretch.

Lavins "mistake" was not playing Branch down the stretch when we couldn't get ANY penetration. Every time branch touched the ball in the first half he successfully got inside. And late in second when we can't get inside, hooper is in?

My only guess is Lavin had a lack of confidence in the defense on the final possession, and thought Depaul would score and push it to three with 14 seconds left.

In that case, hooper was needed, but for the final four minutes we didn't score, and in my opinion it was because of our lack of penetration. Needed branch in there.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

I somehow got my hands on the eye chart used by the doctor for Lavin's latest hipster glasses prescription eye test.

 

[redfazed]

I'll say it again: Harkless was a genius for leaving when he did.

Our top recruits- Sampson, Obekpa in particular- have regressed under Lavin. I truly feel sorry for them.

 

[Marillac]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

One of our guys had him for a wide open look that changes the whole stretch. Of course it's Lavins fault that the pass was not made and a play that followed buried us. Kid was tired. Lavins mistake was playing him to many minutes if you want him alert down the stretch.

Lavins "mistake" was not playing Branch down the stretch when we couldn't get ANY penetration. Every time branch touched the ball in the first half he successfully got inside. And late in second when we can't get inside, hooper is in?

My only guess is Lavin had a lack of confidence in the defense on the final possession, and thought Depaul would score and push it to three with 14 seconds left.

In that case, hooper was needed, but for the final four minutes we didn't score, and in my opinion it was because of our lack of penetration. Needed branch in there.

I don't have a problem with Hooper in the game. We've lost six others with him not in the game late. I agree Branch has to play more-it is one of the more frustrating and puzzling things about this season. We're a different team when we have another kid with Jordan who is a constant threat to get in the lane, but he only plays 10 hesitant minutes a game?

 

[Jack Williams]

I'll say it again: Harkless was a genius for leaving when he did.

Our top recruits- Sampson, Obekpa in particular- have regressed under Lavin. I truly feel sorry for them.

It's not their fault at all they haven't improved? Get outta here with that! They are equally responsible or even more responsible for not becoming better players, don't put that on Lavin!

Put the bad substitutions, poor timeout usage, lack of set starting lineup, no press, and no set offense on Lavin.

Lavin can't make Obekpa/Sampson rebound, he can't make them smarter, faster, bigger, stronger, more aggressive. That comes from with in, Lavin has done a poor job, no an AWFUL job with the team this year, but this is not all Lavin.

 

[Marillac]

I'll say it again: Harkless was a genius for leaving when he did.

Our top recruits- Sampson, Obekpa in particular- have regressed under Lavin. I truly feel sorry for them.

It's not their fault at all they haven't improved? Get outta here with that! They are equally responsible or even more responsible for not becoming better players, don't put that on Lavin!

Put the bad substitutions, poor timeout usage, lack of set starting lineup, no press, and no set offense on Lavin.

Lavin can't make Obekpa/Sampson rebound, he can't make them smarter, faster, bigger, stronger, more aggressive. That comes from with in, Lavin has done a poor job, no an AWFUL job with the team this year, but this is not all Lavin.

Wasn't Rico Hines supposed to be some skill workout guru? If so, why is half the roster out of control after three dribbles and why haven't Dom and Kar shown any improvement with shooting?

 

[beast of the east]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

One of our guys had him for a wide open look that changes the whole stretch. Of course it's Lavins fault that the pass was not made and a play that followed buried us. Kid was tired. Lavins mistake was playing him to many minutes if you want him alert down the stretch.

Lavins "mistake" was not playing Branch down the stretch when we couldn't get ANY penetration. Every time branch touched the ball in the first half he successfully got inside. And late in second when we can't get inside, hooper is in?

My only guess is Lavin had a lack of confidence in the defense on the final possession, and thought Depaul would score and push it to three with 14 seconds left.

In that case, hooper was needed, but for the final four minutes we didn't score, and in my opinion it was because of our lack of penetration. Needed branch in there.

I don't have a problem with Hooper in the game. We've lost six others with him not in the game late. I agree Branch has to play more-it is one of the more frustrating and puzzling things about this season. We're a different team when we have another kid with Jordan who is a constant threat to get in the lane, but he only plays 10 hesitant minutes a game?

We have better players than Hooper.

 

[Andrew]

Hooper played the last 7 minutes of the game.
Can't believe I just typed that.

One of our guys had him for a wide open look that changes the whole stretch. Of course it's Lavins fault that the pass was not made and a play that followed buried us. Kid was tired. Lavins mistake was playing him to many minutes if you want him alert down the stretch.

Lavins "mistake" was not playing Branch down the stretch when we couldn't get ANY penetration. Every time branch touched the ball in the first half he successfully got inside. And late in second when we can't get inside, hooper is in?

My only guess is Lavin had a lack of confidence in the defense on the final possession, and thought Depaul would score and push it to three with 14 seconds left.

In that case, hooper was needed, but for the final four minutes we didn't score, and in my opinion it was because of our lack of penetration. Needed branch in there.

I don't have a problem with Hooper in the game. We've lost six others with him not in the game late. I agree Branch has to play more-it is one of the more frustrating and puzzling things about this season. We're a different team when we have another kid with Jordan who is a constant threat to get in the lane, but he only plays 10 hesitant minutes a game?

We have better players than Hooper.

That's questionable. He didn't miss a wide open dunk or commit a silly technical foul.