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We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.

We could add Boo Harvey at that list.
 
And Moses Brown's teammate Khalid Moore, the 6'6" shooting guard who can defend three positions, shoot from deep and whose floor game is improving nicely. A bit under the radar but not for much longer.

I also was very impressed with him. Will be an excellent college 2G IMO. Good seeing you at the Molloy-CTK games.
 
And Moses Brown's teammate Khalid Moore, the 6'6" shooting guard who can defend three positions, shoot from deep and whose floor game is improving nicely. A bit under the radar but not for much longer.

Was Moore at the game?
 
Please get Ahmed off the court, are you kidding me!!

He may well play out of control at time, but the fact is Ahmed's the only offensive threat we have in the forecourt.

I was speaking specifically of him on the court at the end of the game when twice he made dumb plays looking for his own rather than running clock.
I too think he launched the 3 too soon. But when Ellison made his 3 right before, early in the shot clock and it went in, he looked like a genious.

Ellison was wide open. Ahmed 's shot was contested.
 
We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.

We could add Boo Harvey at that list.

Didn't both Harvey and Scott have to sit out a year before they played their senior years? I know Harvey did but I think Scott as well. Maybe that is the ticket. Someone pull a Tonya Harding on Ahmed and we will really have something in two years.
 
We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.

We could add Boo Harvey at that list.

Didn't both Harvey and Scott have to sit out a year before they played their senior years? I know Harvey did but I think Scott as well. Maybe that is the ticket. Someone pull a Tonya Harding on Ahmed and we will really have something in two years.

Boo Harvey sat out following his junior year for academic reasons. Michael Porter was thrown out of school following his junior campaign. I thought Hardy demonstrated the ability to be terrific as a junior. Inexplicably, Roberts refused to play him significant minutes. I particularly remember a game against Nova where Hardy had an incredible first half and Roberts sat him for a good portion to start the second half. Brownlee also didn't play significant minutes as a junior.

I could be wrong, but I recall James Scott playing two straight years and being rather disappointing for both.

Hatten was terrific right out of the gates as was Bootsy.
 
We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.

We could add Boo Harvey at that list.

Didn't both Harvey and Scott have to sit out a year before they played their senior years? I know Harvey did but I think Scott as well. Maybe that is the ticket. Someone pull a Tonya Harding on Ahmed and we will really have something in two years.

Boo Harvey sat out following his junior year for academic reasons. Michael Porter was thrown out of school following his junior campaign. I thought Hardy demonstrated the ability to be terrific as a junior. Inexplicably, Roberts refused to play him significant minutes. I particularly remember a game against Nova where Hardy had an incredible first half and Roberts sat him for a good portion to start the second half. Brownlee also didn't play significant minutes as a junior.

I could be wrong, but I recall James Scott playing two straight years and being rather disappointing for both.

Hatten was terrific right out of the gates as was Bootsy.

Scott played two consecutive seasons but his 2nd season he was much better. Team did not have a true point guard or would have been much better. Supposedly Scott and Lopez did not get along though.
 
We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.

We could add Boo Harvey at that list.

Didn't both Harvey and Scott have to sit out a year before they played their senior years? I know Harvey did but I think Scott as well. Maybe that is the ticket. Someone pull a Tonya Harding on Ahmed and we will really have something in two years.

Boo Harvey sat out following his junior year for academic reasons. Michael Porter was thrown out of school following his junior campaign. I thought Hardy demonstrated the ability to be terrific as a junior. Inexplicably, Roberts refused to play him significant minutes. I particularly remember a game against Nova where Hardy had an incredible first half and Roberts sat him for a good portion to start the second half. Brownlee also didn't play significant minutes as a junior.

I could be wrong, but I recall James Scott playing two straight years and being rather disappointing for both.

Hatten was terrific right out of the gates as was Bootsy.

Scott played two consecutive seasons but his 2nd season he was much better. Team did not have a true point guard or would have been much better. Supposedly Scott and Lopez did not get along though.

My memory must be getting hazy, but I didn't think Scott and Lopez played together. I thought Scott graduated before Lopez arrived.
 
Please get Ahmed off the court, are you kidding me!!

14 points, 7 rebounds three assists, get him off the court, let's give Alimakeawish some run, are you kidding me, several exclamation points.

Which of course gives him the freedom to jack and bull rush rather than run clock at the end of the game. But I understand the nuances of playing intelligent, winning basketball go right over your head. I wonder at your response had AA made such dumb plays.

It's a shame Bobby Kelly doesn't have any more eligibility, then you could watch nuanced intelligent winning basketball again.

Sparnakle called it right he is a wild card. Don't know what he will do from possession to possession. Ellison is like that as well.
If we are better next year I wouldn't mind Ahmad coming off the bench. If he is playing well great, if he plays like a nut he gets yanked.

It's pretty [strike]nuanced[/strike] obvious that he forces things and doesn't always make the best decisions. But he plays hard, he rebounds, and he's the only big man we have who can score. Despite which he takes a lot of heat.

We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.



As long as we have Ponds, Lovett, and Ellison in the starting lineup we need Ahmed to score and rebound. I ask you,"Who on the bench can do both?"
 
Seemingly Mullin is getting his "sea legs"

He has improved this season over last, as much, if not more than any of his players.

St. John's is improving, albeit not as fast as we would like.

A big test of just how far we've improved will come Sat. when we play a local rival who has wiped the floor with us several times in the recent past, on the road after they got their clock cleaned by the # 1 team in the country, who they are trying to move up and out of the middle of the pack from.
 
WRT Ahmed I generally sympathize with Logen but agree with Fun. Ahmed is enormously frustrating to watch. He has talent but is not a team player, and has a tendency to be a team killer. He is just as apt to shoot you out of a game as into it.

For all that, he is really the only scoring option with some size on the team. And like many JUCO players, he is used to being the first, second and third option and succeeding on pure ability and athleticism. That does not work at this level, and it takes many of them a year to figure it out.

Bottom line is he is needed despite the frustration level he causes. We can hope for better next year. And he could still use the occasional benching as reinforcement, which is happening.
 
Please get Ahmed off the court, are you kidding me!!

He may well play out of control at time, but the fact is Ahmed's the only offensive threat we have in the forecourt.

I was speaking specifically of him on the court at the end of the game when twice he made dumb plays looking for his own rather than running clock.

Specifically when he launched a 3 towards the end of the game when he should have been running out the clock. Also missed a bunny reverse layup, and 2 for 6 from the charity line in the last few minutes. Needs to lose some of the street ball and play as a teammate
 
Whenever Lovett wasn't on the court he was riding the bike on the sideline. He doesn't always do that so I assume he might have a minor tweak.

He came up a little lame at the end of the nova game. Likely tweaked something there. He had an early bad turnover in the first half and was promptly yanked. He looked ok in the second half.

Lucky he still has his head on his shoulders after absorbing several picks from Paschall who is a moose. Almost snapped his neck off. Hey doesn't anybody call PICK anymore.
 
Please get Ahmed off the court, are you kidding me!!

14 points, 7 rebounds three assists, get him off the court, let's give Alimakeawish some run, are you kidding me, several exclamation points.

Which of course gives him the freedom to jack and bull rush rather than run clock at the end of the game. But I understand the nuances of playing intelligent, winning basketball go right over your head. I wonder at your response had AA made such dumb plays.

It's a shame Bobby Kelly doesn't have any more eligibility, then you could watch nuanced intelligent winning basketball again.

Sparnakle called it right he is a wild card. Don't know what he will do from possession to possession. Ellison is like that as well.
If we are better next year I wouldn't mind Ahmad coming off the bench. If he is playing well great, if he plays like a nut he gets yanked.

It's pretty [strike]nuanced[/strike] obvious that he forces things and doesn't always make the best decisions. But he plays hard, he rebounds, and he's the only big man we have who can score. Despite which he takes a lot of heat.

We've had a bunch of JUCOs who struggled their junior year and picked it up the next: Brownlee, Hardy and James Scott, of whom Ahmed reminds me more and more, to the extent I can remember 20 years ago.



As long as we have Ponds, Lovett, and Ellison in the starting lineup we need Ahmed to score and rebound. I ask you,"Who on the bench can do both?"

Tariq?
 
Ponds and Lovett have both gotten crushed by picks lately. Good point that nobody on the team seems to know how to call them out. Can't have the guards getting creamed like that
 
My memory must be getting hazy, but I didn't think Scott and Lopez played together. I thought Scott graduated before Lopez arrived.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/st-johns-ny/1995.html

4 guys that made the pros and Charles Minlend shouldn't equal 14-14. No point guard and bad coach

Mo Brown listed at 6"5 ?. How about a foot shorter. I guess that's how he tricked Mahoney into signing him.

Yes & considered a great recruiting catch & prototypical NYC PG, but never amounted to much.
 
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