Creighton (MSG), Sun., Feb. 25, 12 Noon, CBS

paultzman said:
Holding CU under 70 not easy. The road is a different animal, except for us beating Butler to sneak in Dance
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Creighton is 18 and 2 when scoring at least 70 points (those 2 losses were 99-98 versus Butler and 91 to 87 at Providence). They are just 2 and 6 when they score under 70. BTW one of those two wins, when scoring under seventy, was against us (66 to 65) and the other was against Providence 69 to 60).
 
mm52 said:
Dingle and Jenkins were 20 of 31 on shots for 45 points. Wow!

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Yeah - as I mentioned in my original post, it looked as though the game plan was to get shots from around the free throw line. I don't know if they post shot charts but especially early in the game that was where STJ was focused on going with the ball. Then they returned to it in the second half when the game got close. Seemed almost as though the staff identified a weak spot in Creighton's D that they coached the team to exploit. Or maybe it was just a matter of staying away from Kalkbrenner int he post. But either way it played right into the hands of Dingle whose strength is the mid-range game and Jenkins who has a reliable shot from the right side of the free throw line. Soriano also hit a couple from there, it's a good location for him too.

Take smart shots, shoot high percentage!
 
lawmanfan said:
I don't disagree with you, Logen or Monte - Jenkins had a very good offensive game, any player who is as ball-dominant as he is will have some turnovers or mistakes, and the team would be nowhere without him.

Some of his improved efficiency was from shots falling - and I agree that when you're hot, ride it. Some of it was also from not taking bad 3s. But probably his best offensive game all year.

My beef with the turnovers is that those two, late in the game, were just stupid basketball at the exact time in the game when you need your PG to be smart. Didn't hurt us today - but those are plays that cost you games. I have the same problem with RJ who is a much more frequent offender -but also not playing the PG where the standards are higher.

And the team wouldn't be anywhere without him because Pitino didn't land the PG he wanted (Clayton) and decided early on that the other two options he had on the roster (Dingle and Wilcher) weren't up to the task. So we ride with Jenkins - which does not immunize him from criticism.

I don't know why every thread becomes all about Jenkins though - if you look at the OP you will find commentary about Ledlum and Taylor - who both have limitations that I've also pointed out while still appreciating the things they do well - same as I do WRT Jenkins.

I did forget to mention Luis - I probably erased the memory of him playing from my mind. He didn't kill us today, but put charitably it was a learning experience for him. I thought Soriano played well in his reduced role. Ejafor had 4 assists including at least one memorable pass - that was a bit eye opening. It was not a surprise that both he and Soriano struggled offensively against Kalkbrenner, that kid is just a tremendous post defender.
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Ok, fair is fair, the pass to Ledlum was ridiculous, a horrible decision, not tehnically a TO but certainly served the same purpose. Similar to a comment I made during the Gtown game for a like push up the sideline that resulted in a TO, no reason for Jenkins to push up today, you clearly play time and score at that point. So I agree with both of those.
 
monte said:
If any coach could bring out the best in Luis, it's Rick. But in this day and age of college basketball annual free agency, and with this being the instant gratification generation, I would bet against Luis coming back next year and putting his faith in Rick.
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I don't want to lose Taylor AND Luis, so we really need to find out who has the better chance of returning and stop lineup yo-yo-ing with regard to those two in particular.
 
lawmanfan said:
Yeah - as I mentioned in my original post, it looked as though the game plan was to get shots from around the free throw line. I don't know if they post shot charts but especially early in the game that was where STJ was focused on going with the ball. Then they returned to it in the second half when the game got close. Seemed almost as though the staff identified a weak spot in Creighton's D that they coached the team to exploit. Or maybe it was just a matter of staying away from Kalkbrenner int he post. But either way it played right into the hands of Dingle whose strength is the mid-range game and Jenkins who has a reliable shot from the right side of the free throw line. Soriano also hit a couple from there, it's a good location for him too.

Take smart shots, shoot high percentage!
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One comment to the point, I think Soriano did a very nice job setting picks, some on ball handoffs, helping free both Dingle and Jenkins for some of those mid range jumpers.
 
L J S A said:
I don't want to lose Taylor AND Luis, so we really need to find out who has the better chance of returning and stop lineup yo-yo-ing with regard to those two in particular.
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IMO Luis has way more upside but Taylor is way more coachable. I'd love to retain both, but if I were a betting man, and there was a betting line on such a thing, my money would be on Taylor returning over Luis.
 
L J S A said:
I don't want to lose Taylor AND Luis, so we really need to find out who has the better chance of returning and stop lineup yo-yo-ing with regard to those two in particular.
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Respectfully disagree but only if Luis commits to being coachable. Get both a top notch 5 and guard to share the backcourt with Sim and Taylor and Luis can spend a lot of time on the court together. They are both pretty good rebounders.
 
Jack Williams said:
They fall for the flopping Ashworth and Scheirmen do, simple as that

They both came from the Ryan Archidiacono school of flailing your arms and head around when anyone puts a forearm anywhere near you
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Assworth's flops were really annoying. Soriano should have stepped on him when he flopped, accidentally of course, and squashed that pipsqueak like a 🪳 cockroach.

The other option is refs call the tech on a flop which i think is a dumb rule.
 
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lawmanfan said:
Yeah - as I mentioned in my original post, it looked as though the game plan was to get shots from around the free throw line. I don't know if they post shot charts but especially early in the game that was where STJ was focused on going with the ball. Then they returned to it in the second half when the game got close. Seemed almost as though the staff identified a weak spot in Creighton's D that they coached the team to exploit. Or maybe it was just a matter of staying away from Kalkbrenner int he post. But either way it played right into the hands of Dingle whose strength is the mid-range game and Jenkins who has a reliable shot from the right side of the free throw line. Soriano also hit a couple from there, it's a good location for him too.

Take smart shots, shoot high percentage!
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great post, they stayed with the game plan and executed today..
 
lawmanfan said:
Yeah - as I mentioned in my original post, it looked as though the game plan was to get shots from around the free throw line. I don't know if they post shot charts but especially early in the game that was where STJ was focused on going with the ball. Then they returned to it in the second half when the game got close. Seemed almost as though the staff identified a weak spot in Creighton's D that they coached the team to exploit. Or maybe it was just a matter of staying away from Kalkbrenner int he post. But either way it played right into the hands of Dingle whose strength is the mid-range game and Jenkins who has a reliable shot from the right side of the free throw line. Soriano also hit a couple from there, it's a good location for him too.

Take smart shots, shoot high percentage!
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Yup, Creighton defends threes aggressively and begs you to take mid range shots. Backfired v terrible three point shooting SJ
 
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