Mike Zaun Returns
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Great W. Still feel it’s prob too little too late, but can we win in Hinkle? Feel like we almost never win there regardless of their talent level.
Creighton (MSG), Sun., Feb. 25, 12 Noon, CBS
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riverside8a
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Crowd, while not huge, was really into the game today and loud when we were on a run
The enthusiasm is there for sure and if we ever can get to top 25 level we’d get solid 13-15k at MSG
The enthusiasm is there for sure and if we ever can get to top 25 level we’d get solid 13-15k at MSG
MarkRedman
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Best game we've played since the Villanova game when we held them to 50 points
We've got momentum on our side - Butler is a must win
If we win at Hinkle, we should win out and be 19-12 going into the BE Tournament
Fingers crossed to sneak into the tournament
We need to break the 2nd longest drought for not winning an NCAA game - we're overdue
Hoping this will be the year!!!!
We've got momentum on our side - Butler is a must win
If we win at Hinkle, we should win out and be 19-12 going into the BE Tournament
Fingers crossed to sneak into the tournament
We need to break the 2nd longest drought for not winning an NCAA game - we're overdue
Hoping this will be the year!!!!
Xavier has 2 games left with M
Xavier has 2 games left with Marquette.
So nonsensical it’s funny.
I don’t take offense at anything, I disagree, big difference; you know, you comment, I comment, isn’t that what the site is about? Anyone can play what if with stats to fit an agenda, I prefer to deal with what happened, you know, reality.
I get it, you don’t like the guy, I do, without him, this team is nowhere, my opinion.
I almost cried when it showed us not playing on Wednesday.
The guy has the ball in his hands for almost 40 minutes a game. He's allowed to make a few mistakes during the game, or no??
Not going to repeat all of the great observations, but what a fun game to be at today and great atmosphere from our fans.
St. John’s knocks off No. 15 Creighton to keep March Madness hopes alive
St. John’s raced out to a lead and finished off an elite opponent, knocking off No. 15 Creighton for the first signature win of the Rick Pitino era.
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SJUWillRockNYC
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It's a mentality, refuse to lose and do whatever the hell it takes to win.
Maybe dive for loose balls and ending up in the stands, get a little hurt? Oh well, you get your ass up and shake it off.
Just maybe the kids got freaking sick of blowing these halftime leads. Maybe when the lead got to 5, instead of getting scared of losing, maybe they got pissed and said nah screw this, losing today is not an option, WE ARE WINNING THIS FREAKING GAME.
THEY DID.
After that huge shot from Jenkins and then Creighton called timeout, did anyone notice his face on the big board?
He looked liked he was about to cry. Right there shows you how hard this season is on these kids, blowing all those halftime leads.
No looking back young men. You guys made sure that you won this game, so be proud and keep your head up.
We'll be watching Wednesday night, be killers on the court?
On my way home from the game. Jenkins was awesome today, this was the Dingle we’ve been waiting for and Taylor and Ledlum both played extreme energy today. We won this game by 14 points and we got absolutely no home whistle. They called three fouls on us where our defensive player didn’t even touch the Creighton player. It was a great win and by 14 points so it should help out NET even more.
I will also say this, people who that we should play our home games anywhere else but at MSG , forget about it. The crowd was great today and the place wasn’t even fully packed. Although, there was a nice crowd. If Pitino can get this going again I want as many games at the Garden as possible.
I will also say this, people who that we should play our home games anywhere else but at MSG , forget about it. The crowd was great today and the place wasn’t even fully packed. Although, there was a nice crowd. If Pitino can get this going again I want as many games at the Garden as possible.
dj is special the way he takes care of the ball and he can do it with reckles abandon.
I think at sometime rick must have read Luis the riot act. Every one on this board has.
11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 block, zero turnovers. 1-4 in first half minutes 0-2 in 2nd half.
If you want to play extrapolate game, 7.3 pts, 7.3 rebounds, 3.6 blocks, 0 turnovers.
Like any coach would tell you, if they are all makeable good looks, i don't give a damn how many shots he took.
Point is, no big mistakes today, despite you thinking he did.
Before Taylor re-entered the starting lineup i posted here that the big decline was Luis getting starters minutes and horfible play replaced Taylor's pretty solid play. So Im not disagreeing entirely with you.
If we are dishing star of the game its Jenkins who was great, then we saw the Dingle we waited all year for, then Taylor and Ledlum (who mixes it up underneath like Marciano did against bigger opponents, plus reasonable games from soriano and zuby (7 rebounds, 4 assists).
Makes no sense to argue after the best win all season with the curtain about to come down on our hopes.
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as far as I’m concerned, it is the team and staffs job to be locked in on taking things one game at a time.
But from the fan perspective, I think everyone should feel free to crunch those NET statistics and try to see what we need to do so we can get into the dance.
I mean that’s the ultimate goal and fans looking ahead a couple games doesn’t impact what happens on the floor IMO
I don't disagree with you, Logen or Monte - Jenkins had a very good offensive game, any player who is as ball-dominant as he is will have some turnovers or mistakes, and the team would be nowhere without him.
Some of his improved efficiency was from shots falling - and I agree that when you're hot, ride it. Some of it was also from not taking bad 3s. But probably his best offensive game all year.
My beef with the turnovers is that those two, late in the game, were just stupid basketball at the exact time in the game when you need your PG to be smart. Didn't hurt us today - but those are plays that cost you games. I have the same problem with RJ who is a much more frequent offender -but also not playing the PG where the standards are higher.
And the team wouldn't be anywhere without him because Pitino didn't land the PG he wanted (Clayton) and decided early on that the other two options he had on the roster (Dingle and Wilcher) weren't up to the task. So we ride with Jenkins - which does not immunize him from criticism.
I don't know why every thread becomes all about Jenkins though - if you look at the OP you will find commentary about Ledlum and Taylor - who both have limitations that I've also pointed out while still appreciating the things they do well - same as I do WRT Jenkins.
I did forget to mention Luis - I probably erased the memory of him playing from my mind. He didn't kill us today, but put charitably it was a learning experience for him. I thought Soriano played well in his reduced role. Ejafor had 4 assists including at least one memorable pass - that was a bit eye opening. It was not a surprise that both he and Soriano struggled offensively against Kalkbrenner, that kid is just a tremendous post defender.
While this is all speculation. Here are some thoughts from my crystal ball. Assuming we get the win at Butler (a very big assumption) then getting to eleven wins is very doable. I would guess that Providence would be more likely to get to 11 wins than Nova (I don't know what the tiebreaker would be with Providence though).
Providence is very tough at home and is unlikely to lose both their home games (Villanova and UConn), will likely win on the road at Georgetown and an upset at Marquette is not totally impossible. I can't see them going less than 2 and 2 in those four games.
Nova on the other hand would have to go 3 and 1 to get to 11 wins. They should win at home at Georgetown and then would need to win 2 of 3 (at Seton Hall and at Providence) and then Creighton at home in order to get to eleven.
I actually think we would be better served by finishing sixth anyway. It would give us a Garden tune up win against DePaul and a more favorable second round matchup against either Creighton or Marquette than playing Seton Hall whose physicality has bothered us in both of our matchups.
I personally think we will need to win on Thursday (something we have not done in about a quarter of a century) and get to the conference semifinals on Friday to make the NCAA tournament. To me that Thursday matchup will be key. I would not want to play Seton Hall in that game, if that were the case. They are a bad matchup for us.
You brought up Luis's "contribution" today, not me. Extrapolate Luis's stats out over 40 minutes and he shoots roughly 4-24. I don't care what kind of shots he takes, that's horrid production. It's no coincidence that we played our best game of the year with him on the bench for most of it.
The kid has an awful lot to learn about the game of basketball. If he's open to learning, I'd love to see that happen here under Rick's tutelage, but I'm skeptical.