Creighton Game
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redmen2014champs
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If Harrison and Jordan are healthy, and that is a big question mark, there is no doubt in my mind they will make at an NCAA bid. Creighton was due for a win, isn't as bad as it's Big East record and is a tough road spot. We will win anywhere from 8-10 games in Big East and be right on the bubble.
guinness77
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Spurs are far from perfect, but Spurs will be Spurs, I'm used to that by now. Be nice to pick up some silverware. I am a big Islanders fan so that is making this SJU season a little easier to take. I have to be honest, just the sight of Lavin is beginning to irk me.
JackofVirginia
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Met a golfer yesterday who grew up in Astoria. He attended LIU but was a Mullin and Berry fan. Left N.Y. to LA while Lavin coached UCLA. and we know that story. He called him nothing but a "Music Man" salesman.
guinness77
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I am, and might have been. You never know with us degenerates.
Class of 72
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I hate to bash a player that has scored so many points but take away two 3's in the closing minute he played a sophomoric game and was part of the problem in this loss.
He plays lazy defense and basically has two offensive moves, driving to get fouled or taking 3's where he barely hits a third of the time. There is a reason he has never been in the conversation when it comes to the NBA.
It would be easy to make excuses like Rysheed getting injured,short bench or whatever but this team did not come ready to play and gave the game away in the first half. Jamal Branch more than did his job replacing Rysheed but everyone else was ineffective. No one on this team crashes the offensive boards. On a number of occasions there were 3 Creighton players under our basket and not a St. John's player within 10 feet of basket.
So, don't feel sorry for Harrison or Green or anyone because in reality none are as good as we had hoped as seniors and appear to be as inconsistent as they were as Juniors. They show up one game and disappear the next. Sure, our bench is short but what happened to the development of two scholarship players that were redshirted last year? What happened to involving Obekpa in the offense like the first 12 games? This embarrassing coach even regressed back to wearing his mismatchIng clown suit. The face of the program is too lazy to dress for games and that laziness is becoming contagious.
That's weak. Why don't you just take away every point he's ever scored, and make him the worst four year player in the history of the school?
And, it's not like those baskets at the end came while the game was already decided. Heck, he almost hit a 35-footer to send it to OT.
guinness77
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Harrison can't run. Isn't that blatantly obvious by now? Blaming him is ridiculous.
redmen2014champs
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Couldn't agree more, still love rooting for these players.
I have many issues with Lavin, although I am not ready like most of you to get rid of him yet. Don't understand his use of momentum killing timeouts. Don't understand why he never trusts his backups to at least give them a few minutes. I think, unlike most, that we have plenty of depth but the, Coach is just too scared to use it for whatever reason. He told us at the open practice that he had 10-11 guys that are good enough to compete for quality minutes. Even with the losses of Adonis and Thomas that would still leave us with 8 or 9. Our main 6 plus 10 or so minutes from Amar and 5 minutes from JDR and 5 minutes from Stewart or Balamou woukd give plenty of rest to our core 6 and keep our guys fresh and out of foul trouble. I don't like how he handles end of game or other key situations.
However, I do think there are many good points to Lavin. I like that our coach is a good talker even if some of it is bull, some of these kids would never think of coming to SJU if he didn't have that smooth talking charisma that alot of coaches have. I also believe his players have improved a good amount through the years. I wasn't in the locker room but I have to believe that some of that run they put on in the second half was his motivation at halftime.
I think the comments about his attire, his weight (or Adonis' weight for that matter), where he lives, his wife, his expense account, etc. are out of line and unacceptable rantings by fans who are jealous of his life and have nothing to do with coaching or basketball.
I'm sorry, but if you don't feel bad for the seniors on this team I question if you have a heart. Seriously.
I wouldn't say DLO is lazy. Some of the guys he might be guarding are quicker than him but the guy puts more effort into rebounding than every player on our team. That's certainly not lazy and he has no problem putting the effort into guarding guys much bigger than him and he does a solid job when doing that
And DLO when healthy also has a sweet jumper in the lane when he doesn't try to take it to the hoop and he drives to the hoop to draw contact because he is excellent at the line
You don't hear him and NBA because of his size. If the guy was a few inches taller you certainly would. He's going to make a lot of money playing somewhere over the next 10-15 years
redmen2014champs
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Don't think they would be in with 8, but on the bubble, I do think we would have a better than 50% chance of getting in at 9-9 and a great chance at 9-9 plus a win in the BET.
Oh my. Win 8 & we're in. Novel approach.
Class of 72
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Scoring points but losing games is great for the player but terrible for the team. If a heralded player like Felipe Lopez can be criticized then Harrison certainly is fair game if he plays poorly. I am tired of hearing players say they are 100 % , play like they are 50% and we have figure out where the truth lies.
Volume scorers can be very unreliable if they don't have a complete game in their talent arsenal. That is a problem with a player like Harrison who gives his all but absent his offense, the rest of his game suffers. I can't imagine even a moron like Lavin would play him almost 40 minutes if he were hurt but that is what is going on.
Class of 72
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Mike I said he plays lazy defense and not that he is lazy. While he may like to mix it up for rebounds he rarely extends himself on defense since he has a scorers mentality. It is not just his size that limits his NBA marketability because Dwayne Wade is maybe an inch taller but is miles ahead in overall talent. He is, at his height, too slow to guard NBA level players. I don't recall him being able to shut down an opponent big or small. I certainly hopes he makes a decent living playing the game he loves but it will not be in the NBA.
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Blissfully ignorant of the game of basketball. Well pal, you may not be in this business much longer!