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panther2 post=463642 said:
I can't believe some of the comments on this thread regarding Coach Anderson. It seems as if some posters have a vested interest in seeing Coach Anderson fail, damn shame.

I'm done.

Respectully Panther...I don't believe there are any posts in this thread wishing Anderson fails in future years.. It more a matter of not having much confidence that he'll be much more successful than what he's produced so far. With that, if he left at this point I would not be too upset and would wish him much success at Tulsa which could be a better fit.
 
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panther2 post=463642 said:
I can't believe some of the comments on this thread regarding Coach Anderson. It seems as if some posters have a vested interest in seeing Coach Anderson fail, damn shame.

I'm done.
It's much worse on twitter.  The thing about social media it gives a voice to anyone no matter how smart or dumb their opinion is. 

But as far as the Tulsa rumors, I'd be shocked if CMA took the Tulsa job, it's a bottom tier AAC job.  The smallest school enrollment wise of any D1 program.  And the Tulsa area is not really putting out a ton of highly touted recruits.  It's not an attractive job at all.  Tulsa would have to break the bank and he'd really really have to want to be closer to home to even consider it.  He most would defintely get his first losing season there next year.

And I know emotions are still high on a disappointing season, but CMA is going to build something special here.  It's not as quick as some wanted but it's coming.  If they bring the core back next season I think they'll surprise a lot people.  Lots of positives to take away from the development of some of the newcomers this year and the one's that shined all have eligibility left.
 
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RedStormNC post=463646 said:
panther2 post=463642 said:
I can't believe some of the comments on this thread regarding Coach Anderson. It seems as if some posters have a vested interest in seeing Coach Anderson fail, damn shame.

I'm done.

Respectully Panther...I don't believe there are any posts in this thread wishing Anderson fails in future years.. It more a matter of not having much confidence that he'll be much more successful than what he's produced so far. With that, if he left at this point I would not be too upset and would wish him much success at Tulsa which could be a better fit.
 
I learned early in life to read between the lines.
 
Making Plays post=463647 said:
panther2 post=463642 said:
I can't believe some of the comments on this thread regarding Coach Anderson. It seems as if some posters have a vested interest in seeing Coach Anderson fail, damn shame.

I'm done.
It's much worse on twitter.  The thing about social media it gives a voice to anyone no matter how smart or dumb their opinion is. 

But as far as the Tulsa rumors, I'd be shocked if CMA took the Tulsa job, it's a bottom tier AAC job.  The smallest school enrollment wise of any D1 program.  And the Tulsa area is not really putting out a ton of highly touted recruits.  It's not an attractive job at all.  Tulsa would have to break the bank and he'd really really have to want to be closer to home to even consider it.  He most would defintely get his first losing season there next year.

And I know emotions are still high on a disappointing season, but CMA is going to build something special here.  It's not as quick as some wanted but it's coming.  If they bring the core back next season I think they'll surprise a lot people.  Lots of positives to take away from the development of some of the newcomers this year and the one's that shined all have eligibility left.
 
The thought of Anderson leaving never even crossed my mind until a fairly well positioned source told me it was a done deal. Not Twitter, not social media and this source has no axe to grind against Anderson. Maybe he'll go to Tulsa, maybe not. But I reiterate that people on this board are not looking at this whole situation from Anderson's perspective. He has no roots whatsoever in NYC, this is not a dream job for him.
 
Panther2 is 100% on target imho.. . Bottom line is CMA has been here 3 years and overachieved twice and underachieved once (this year was a significant miss). Given all the "success" we've had with changing coaches every 3 or 4 years, it would make sense to opt for a little continuity and in the meanwhile support our coach unless it becomes obvious it isn't working. I do not know if CMA will work out long term, but it's pretty obvious to me he deserves a chance to prove he can succeed and I really hope he does.
 
NCJohnnie post=463652 said:
Panther2 is 100% on target imho.. . Bottom line is CMA has been here 3 years and overachieved twice and underachieved once (this year was a significant miss). Given all the "success" we've had with changing coaches every 3 or 4 years, it would make sense to opt for a little continuity and in the meanwhile support our coach unless it becomes obvious it isn't working. I do not know if CMA will work out long term, but it's pretty obvious to me he deserves a chance to prove he can succeed and I really hope he does.
If CMA chooses to leave for Tulsa, which
I don't believe will happen, it will be of his doing and not because he wasn't given a chance to succeed here. 
 
If Anderson stays I won't be upset. If Anderson leaves I won't be upset. But it Anderson and his agent use this situation to attempt to negotiate a contract extension and raise, and the school caves, then I'm completely done as an SJU fan for good. 
 
I was shocked to see ESPN mention Mike Anderson name with the Tulsa job.  Personally, I like Mike Anderson and given the names we went through last coaching search Iron Mike was FAR and AWAY the best option.  It would be disaster to have our coach leave voluntarily to take the Tulsa job.   Imagine the being the program that fired Lavin only to go with the Mullin/Slice debacle, then to get SUPER lucky to fall ass backwards into Mike Anderson only to chase him away to an AAC club.  Oi, that would be a dagger.  Hopefully, it's a situation we don't have to worry about.  Maybe we can send JC off with an NIT win and give the boys a good feeling going into the off season.

 
 
My biggest concern is that Mike Cragg and the school administration would be dumb enough to give him another contract extension in fear of losing him. 
 
NCJohnnie post=463652 said:
Panther2 is 100% on target imho.. . Bottom line is CMA has been here 3 years and overachieved twice and underachieved once (this year was a significant miss). Given all the "success" we've had with changing coaches every 3 or 4 years, it would make sense to opt for a little continuity and in the meanwhile support our coach unless it becomes obvious it isn't working. I do not know if CMA will work out long term, but it's pretty obvious to me he deserves a chance to prove he can succeed and I really hope he does.
Add in one more fact. If he leaves, you are looking at a complete rebuild. With all players with any value transferring out, and recruits bailing. See Georgetowns’ record this year? We would be lucky to match that. Is everyone ready to sign up for that? Because I really don’t want to read a game thread next year when we are losing 43-8 in the first half to DePaul with posters whining.
 
Why wouldn’t he take Tulsa job? He is not a young man. He can return home to his alma mater to a part of the country he is familiar with and if he stays at SJU and  has a bad year he gets fired.
 
 
You can sat that about any team that loses a coach,unless it was a top team and had a few players to help get over the loss.
 
Haith makes $1.3 million according to google. I'm thinking that's at least a $700,000 pay cut. I know cost of living would be cheaper there, but is his happiness worth that much of a pay cut? I guess we'll soon find out.

My huge fear that I haven't seen anyone address today is that Anderson knows another mass exodus is coming and doesn't want to have to do a complete rebuild again. What would another mass exodus do for CMA's job security? To me, going to Tulsa would be like when Alford left Iowa for New Mexico State. Alford knew job was in jeopardy the following season, so he opted for security at another gig.

Unless I see a confidential e-mail between the president and the AD talking about Pitino, I'm not sure losing another coach is the best thing for the program.
 
This is all based on speculation of coach staying or leaving and the consequences. What if is the biggest question. What if coach leaves for Tulsa and a mass exodus does not happen? Clearly over last few games you could Soriano, Posh, and others looked disinterested in the huddle. What if coach does not leave, but players do? What if coach leaves and players that were thinking of leaving decide to stay? Then the outlook might not as dismal.  Either way we have been through some down periods and basketball goes on, life goes on. The next 4 weeks will be very interesting. 
 
P Simmons post=463650 said:
Making Plays post=463647 said:
panther2 post=463642 said:
I can't believe some of the comments on this thread regarding Coach Anderson. It seems as if some posters have a vested interest in seeing Coach Anderson fail, damn shame.

I'm done.
It's much worse on twitter.  The thing about social media it gives a voice to anyone no matter how smart or dumb their opinion is. 

But as far as the Tulsa rumors, I'd be shocked if CMA took the Tulsa job, it's a bottom tier AAC job.  The smallest school enrollment wise of any D1 program.  And the Tulsa area is not really putting out a ton of highly touted recruits.  It's not an attractive job at all.  Tulsa would have to break the bank and he'd really really have to want to be closer to home to even consider it.  He most would defintely get his first losing season there next year.

And I know emotions are still high on a disappointing season, but CMA is going to build something special here.  It's not as quick as some wanted but it's coming.  If they bring the core back next season I think they'll surprise a lot people.  Lots of positives to take away from the development of some of the newcomers this year and the one's that shined all have eligibility left.

 
The thought of Anderson leaving never even crossed my mind until a fairly well positioned source told me it was a done deal. Not Twitter, not social media and this source has no axe to grind against Anderson. Maybe he'll go to Tulsa, maybe not. But I reiterate that people on this board are not looking at this whole situation from Anderson's perspective. He has no roots whatsoever in NYC, this is not a dream job for him.
I've heard this before.  I heard from someone that was well connected that CMA was safe and wasn't going to get fired from Arkansas either.  I have no doubt that your source is legit, but these things are never "a done deal" and rumors are always going to happen and people are fed bad info or they are fed good info and things change.  

Like I said, I'd be shocked if CMA took the Tulsa job, it goes against everything he's about.  He's a blue collar hard working guy that doesn't quit or run from a challenge.  He's not a young man anymore, Tulsa at minimum is probably a 4 year rebuild job, they have no talent there and no good recruiting pipelines.  Would seem like a waste of 3 years building a recruiting pipeline here then leaving it especially when he have a kid like Posh on your roster, and a kid like AJ Storr coming in and the majority of your roster returning.

With that said, I'm not privy to all the information, and I've been wrong before, maybe there's other things at play with the family and pressure from the wife, I'm not sure how strong her feelings are towards being closer to home and being back at her alma mater.  Only thing I know is if by some chance he does leave it won't be because he's running away from a challenge at St. John's.
 
I think there's a really good chance CMA takes the Tulsa job. 
On the other hand, I think there is a really good chance that he stays here. 
Time will tell. 

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. 
 
I really hope Anderson doesn’t take the Tulsa job. While he did miss on this season he’s still performed well for 2/3 of them. 
 
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