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If Mullin stays and so do GSJ and Mitch while we at best only hire 1 recruiter again, you can bet your bottom dollar Mullin is absolutely holding our program hostage. Forcing us to suck against our will. Intent doesn't matter...the results have been painfully clear. His recipe ain't working and he keeps trying to force it. Just a waste of time and tons of money IMO. Imagine in the business world having 2 high ranking employees who don't produce crap while driving the company into a dumpster and the CEO being okay with it. The CEO would be fired and so would the 2 terrible employees.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=336709]If Mullin stays and so do GSJ and Mitch while we at best only hire 1 recruiter again, you can bet your bottom dollar Mullin is absolutely holding our program hostage. Forcing us to suck against our will. Intent doesn't matter...the results have been painfully clear. His recipe ain't working and he keeps trying to force it. Just a waste of time and tons of money IMO. Imagine in the business world having 2 high ranking employees who don't produce crap while driving the company into a dumpster and the CEO being okay with it. The CEO would be fired and so would the 2 terrible employees.[/quote]

I will agree, if we continue with just one recruiter, Cragg will have failed his first test.
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=336715]I assume Cragg could just fire Mitch if Mullin refused to do so, right?[/quote]

Someone has to grow a pair of balls. Enough with the nostalgia...we all love Mullin the player and appreciate what he's done for us as a player, but can we get real for a second? He's not the man for the job and we've known for years. No one has the balls to tell the emperor he has no clothes on. Real major programs look at results, not emotions. We need to grow up as a program. Cragg was a good start but not sure he's going to put his foot down.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=336709]If Mullin stays and so do GSJ and Mitch while we at best only hire 1 recruiter again, you can bet your bottom dollar Mullin is absolutely holding our program hostage. Forcing us to suck against our will. Intent doesn't matter...the results have been painfully clear. His recipe ain't working and he keeps trying to force it. Just a waste of time and tons of money IMO. Imagine in the business world having 2 high ranking employees who don't produce crap while driving the company into a dumpster and the CEO being okay with it. The CEO would be fired and so would the 2 terrible employees.[/quote]

Let’s let it play out first. I think Mitch will be moved to an advisor role where he can be best utilized.
 
Let's wait until we know what's going on before throwing Cragg under the bus.

Further, Cragg forcing Mullin to fire Mitch would be dumb. He should be nudging him, but can't mandate it. If Mullin sticks with his guys and underachieves this year, Cragg will have a MASSIVE amount of leverage to fire Mullin and get his own guys in 2020. If Cragg mandates Mullin to restructure his staff, you have to think that'd buy Mullin an additional year. Nobody wants that.

I say let Mullin be stubborn and hold him 100% accountable this year. Like it or not we made the Tournament this year and that did give Mullin some leverage. Cragg is smart and knows what he's doing.
 
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=336717][quote="L J S A" post=336715]I assume Cragg could just fire Mitch if Mullin refused to do so, right?[/quote]

Someone has to grow a pair of balls. Enough with the nostalgia...we all love Mullin the player and appreciate what he's done for us as a player, but can we get real for a second? He's not the man for the job and we've known for years. No one has the balls to tell the emperor he has no clothes on. Real major programs look at results, not emotions. We need to grow up as a program. Cragg was a good start but not sure he's going to put his foot down.[/quote]

So you want a new coach?? Jk
 
[quote="gonzalo" post=336726]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1113641644677636103[/quote]

Would this be for the associate AC role?
 
Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
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6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter

6h (re: Borman)
Not the route either side wants to take it was talked about that’s all
 
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RedStormNC wrote: Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
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6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter

6h (re: Borman)
Not the route either side wants to take it was talked about that’s all

Very disappointing if Zach is correct. Whatever they are going to do, need to get it signed, sealed & delivered by mid next week so as not to start spring recruiting too far behind the eight ball.
 
I really hope that Matt's departure / replacement does not become a disguise for not making impactful change.

SJU needed to boost staff when Matt was still employed. His taking a new role and in turn replacing him does not solve for that issue. It's something new, but not the change needed. Activity does not equal change.

SJU's staff composition has been a joke for this level of college basketball since Slice left, as has been pointed out by many for years now. It is time to address it and I can't thing of a logical reason why rational actors would not.

Think about this: with Matt no longer on staff, none of the three remaining coaches have a single second of college basketball coaching experience on their resume prior to their roles at SJU.

Of the 353 teams in Division 1 college basketball currently, is there any other program where the entire coaching staff has no college coaching experience prior to their current roles? Has that ever been the case with any coaching staff in the history of D1 college basketball? Probably, but I bet few and far between and mostly 50+ years ago.

The most experienced current member of the SJU staff at the college level is the DOBO (no disrespect and all of the luck in the world to him, as this is clearly not his problem) who was the video manager at Santa Clara for one year prior to becoming a graduate assistant at SJU.

That's how outrageous the current situation is. Perpetuating it would only be more outrageous. This is a Big East coaching staff! Not challenging to attract talent. No excuses.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=336734]RedStormNC wrote: Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
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6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter

6h (re: Borman)
Not the route either side wants to take it was talked about that’s all

Very disappointing if Zach is correct. Whatever they are going to do, need to get it signed, sealed & delivered by mid next week so as not to start spring recruiting too far behind the eight ball.[/quote]

The plan is for everyone to "chip in"?
Wasn't that the plan all along?
Maybe not.
One new hire will be a further effort in futility and signal Cragg was not given executive power by our President.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=336749][quote="NCJohnnie" post=336734]RedStormNC wrote: Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
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6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter

6h (re: Borman)
Not the route either side wants to take it was talked about that’s all

Very disappointing if Zach is correct. Whatever they are going to do, need to get it signed, sealed & delivered by mid next week so as not to start spring recruiting too far behind the eight ball.[/quote]

The plan is for everyone to "chip in"?
Wasn't that the plan all along?
Maybe not.
One new hire will be a further effort in futility and signal Cragg was not given executive power by our President.[/quote]

Its the Bobby and Joe show
 
[quote="RedStormNC" post=336733]Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
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6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter
[/quote]

That might be GSJ's plan. I call bullshit on that being Mullin and Mitch's plan.
 
[quote="Moose" post=336753][quote="Class of 72" post=336749][quote="NCJohnnie" post=336734]RedStormNC wrote: Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
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6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter

6h (re: Borman)
Not the route either side wants to take it was talked about that’s all

Very disappointing if Zach is correct. Whatever they are going to do, need to get it signed, sealed & delivered by mid next week so as not to start spring recruiting too far behind the eight ball.[/quote]

The plan is for everyone to "chip in"?
Wasn't that the plan all along?
Maybe not.
One new hire will be a further effort in futility and signal Cragg was not given executive power by our President.[/quote]

Its the Bobby and Joe show[/quote]

It's embarrassing. That's the plan as opposed to the previous 4 years.

Can you imagine Norm Roberts being 32 games under .500 in league play in 4 years and having two NBA guys on his staff with zero college coaching experience and 4 years in pledging to NOW have more recruiting contributions from his entire staff? And making the salary Chris makes?

Just imagine that...
 
One hire is like throwing the deck chairs off the Titanic. C'mon it's been four years. Looks like Mullin is top dog.
 
“Chip in”... now I’ve heard it all. Mullin sucks and has not a clue how to coach and won’t recruit. Nobody is going to “chip in”. Mullin has ransacked this program and I can’t believe how this continues to roll along.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=336749][quote="NCJohnnie" post=336734]RedStormNC wrote: Zach Braziller
@NYPost_Brazille
·
6h
Right now they’re making just one hire. But plan is for everyone to chip in with the new guy being the lead recruiter

6h (re: Borman)
Not the route either side wants to take it was talked about that’s all

Very disappointing if Zach is correct. Whatever they are going to do, need to get it signed, sealed & delivered by mid next week so as not to start spring recruiting too far behind the eight ball.[/quote]

The plan is for everyone to "chip in"?
Wasn't that the plan all along?
Maybe not.
One new hire will be a further effort in futility and signal Cragg was not given executive power by our President.[/quote]

One new hire only gets us back to where we were. How does that help us. Get the dam thing done so we do not fall further behind the eight ball
 
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