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[quote="Chicago Days" post=340338]Barring the heavens opening up amid lightening bolts and thunder claps, it looks like Tim Cluess will soon become our next HC.
Cragg gave it a good shot for BH, but ASU likely threw bags of $$$'s at him, time was short this late in the Spring, the roster was/is leaking, Scheyer was a riskier hire, and the 'list' wasn't 'that' deep.
So, Cluess is our 'consolation' prize but I think he'll succeed with the right Staff in place that I bet Cragg will help him assemble.
God knows, TC loves the game and works 12-7-4 and so will his Staff.
These are good things.
I'm very hopeful about our future.
Let's go Redmen.[/quote]
Well cragg lied straight to our faces. He want sju to be ite and win championships huh? They'll do that with with cluess? You gotta be shitting me.
If he's hired then I'm does, and then see who hire in 4 or 5 yrs when they fire him.
I'll hold out hope until cluess is officially hired.
Damn android
Cragg gave it a good shot for BH, but ASU likely threw bags of $$$'s at him, time was short this late in the Spring, the roster was/is leaking, Scheyer was a riskier hire, and the 'list' wasn't 'that' deep.
So, Cluess is our 'consolation' prize but I think he'll succeed with the right Staff in place that I bet Cragg will help him assemble.
God knows, TC loves the game and works 12-7-4 and so will his Staff.
These are good things.
I'm very hopeful about our future.
Let's go Redmen.[/quote]
Well cragg lied straight to our faces. He want sju to be ite and win championships huh? They'll do that with with cluess? You gotta be shitting me.
If he's hired then I'm does, and then see who hire in 4 or 5 yrs when they fire him.
I'll hold out hope until cluess is officially hired.
Damn android
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Some of y'all should hear yourselves.... You're "fine" with Cluess coming on board as long as he brings in "this guy," "that guy," "a solid staff," "a great staff," "dynamic group of assistant coaches," etc.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.
EDIT: I think some of y'all are striving for Providence and Seton Hall. If that's the case, then I think Cluess could possibly get us on that level. But several of y'all are already aware that neither of those two programs does anything for me. They are decent-to-mediocre on any given season, and that doesn't make me giddy in the least.
Give me JT3's first 7 or 8 years at Georgetown. I believe that's something to write home about.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.
EDIT: I think some of y'all are striving for Providence and Seton Hall. If that's the case, then I think Cluess could possibly get us on that level. But several of y'all are already aware that neither of those two programs does anything for me. They are decent-to-mediocre on any given season, and that doesn't make me giddy in the least.
Give me JT3's first 7 or 8 years at Georgetown. I believe that's something to write home about.
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=340363]He has son everywhere he went. No denying that. Big east is a lot different than one of the worst conferences in America. Wish Jim the best but I’m not happy and don’t expect to see good defense[/quote]
Jimmy likes basketball.
Jimmy likes basketball.
Time was short, oldschool.
Total guess, but I think Cragg didn't totally conclude that Chris had to step down until the Matt rumors flew heavy and maybe he found out for sure at coach assessment meeting the weeks after our loss to ASU.
So, he reached out to Hurley, and Scheyer; who knows who else was actually contacted.
Meanwhile, the roster began taking heavy hits, Hurley got countered, and Cragg contacted Cluess, probably on his 'B List'.
Cluess has won everywhere he's coached and works hard.
Let's give Tim a chance.
All I'm sayin'.
Total guess, but I think Cragg didn't totally conclude that Chris had to step down until the Matt rumors flew heavy and maybe he found out for sure at coach assessment meeting the weeks after our loss to ASU.
So, he reached out to Hurley, and Scheyer; who knows who else was actually contacted.
Meanwhile, the roster began taking heavy hits, Hurley got countered, and Cragg contacted Cluess, probably on his 'B List'.
Cluess has won everywhere he's coached and works hard.
Let's give Tim a chance.
All I'm sayin'.
[quote="MJDinkins" post=340361]Some of y'all should hear yourselves.... You're "fine" with Cluess coming on board as long as he brings in "this guy," "that guy," "a solid staff," "a great staff," "dynamic group of assistant coaches," etc.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Slick Rick is the only guy that fits that criteria
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Slick Rick is the only guy that fits that criteria
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=340019]It would be smart of Cragg to frequently update guys like LJ, Heron and Williams. I know he can't share too much detail, but retention management should be a priority. Ultimately, it will impact the length of our rebuild.[/quote]
Thanks Johnny Fan
Don’t we in our heart of hearts believe Mike Cragg is doing just that?
None of us know for sure - but for some of we posters to denigrate Mike Cragg from Duke of all places...wow
Give the man a chance
I trust he’ll make a fine - not perfect - decision
AND I know he wants what we want
A winning program
Furthermore, while I’m at it,
having a keen interest in Coach K having been at West Point the same era ( I support my fellow alum not so much Duke )
I can only believe that the same talent and commitment that coach K has, Mike Cragg has
AND
I don’t think Coach K would’ve supported the Cragg move here unless K had a good feeling about it
And - boy am I running on -
Mike Krzyzewski knows all about St. John’s from
The time as a cadet point guard circa 1968
he and Bobby Knight brought the Army team into Alumni Hall to defend the crap out of the Redmen!
Coach K knows basketball inside and out - Mike Cragg dwelt with him for decades
Mike Cragg knows what he is doing here
Knows more than we common men and women
Enough from me
Pleasant dreams of Ws in our near future
Go Mike
Go Storm
Grant
Thanks Johnny Fan
Don’t we in our heart of hearts believe Mike Cragg is doing just that?
None of us know for sure - but for some of we posters to denigrate Mike Cragg from Duke of all places...wow
Give the man a chance
I trust he’ll make a fine - not perfect - decision
AND I know he wants what we want
A winning program
Furthermore, while I’m at it,
having a keen interest in Coach K having been at West Point the same era ( I support my fellow alum not so much Duke )
I can only believe that the same talent and commitment that coach K has, Mike Cragg has
AND
I don’t think Coach K would’ve supported the Cragg move here unless K had a good feeling about it
And - boy am I running on -
Mike Krzyzewski knows all about St. John’s from
The time as a cadet point guard circa 1968
he and Bobby Knight brought the Army team into Alumni Hall to defend the crap out of the Redmen!
Coach K knows basketball inside and out - Mike Cragg dwelt with him for decades
Mike Cragg knows what he is doing here
Knows more than we common men and women
Enough from me
Pleasant dreams of Ws in our near future
Go Mike
Go Storm
Grant
[quote="Johnnie Drama" post=340368][quote="MJDinkins" post=340361]Some of y'all should hear yourselves.... You're "fine" with Cluess coming on board as long as he brings in "this guy," "that guy," "a solid staff," "a great staff," "dynamic group of assistant coaches," etc.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Slick Rick is the only guy that fits that criteria[/quote]
Thad Matta as well.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Slick Rick is the only guy that fits that criteria[/quote]
Thad Matta as well.
[quote="MJDinkins" post=340373][quote="Johnnie Drama" post=340368][quote="MJDinkins" post=340361]Some of y'all should hear yourselves.... You're "fine" with Cluess coming on board as long as he brings in "this guy," "that guy," "a solid staff," "a great staff," "dynamic group of assistant coaches," etc.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Slick Rick is the only guy that fits that criteria[/quote]
Thad Matta as well.[/quote]
I agree.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Slick Rick is the only guy that fits that criteria[/quote]
Thad Matta as well.[/quote]
I agree.
redfan259999888
Active member
[quote="Chicago Days" post=340366]Time was short, oldschool.
Total guess, but I think Cragg didn't totally conclude that Chris had to step down until the Matt rumors flew heavy and maybe he found out for sure at coach assessment meeting the weeks after our loss to ASU.
So, he reached out to Hurley, and Scheyer; who knows who else was actually contacted.
Meanwhile, the roster began taking heavy hits, Hurley got countered, and Cragg contacted Cluess, probably on his 'B List'.
Cluess has won everywhere he's coached and works hard.
Let's give Tim a chance.
All I'm sayin'.[/quote]
Yeah in bs league, no experience in the big boy league. I believe he's 0-6 in the ncaa tourny, if he was so good, then why no upsets? You see upsets in the tourny but never with iona.
Bet they never contacted thad.
Total guess, but I think Cragg didn't totally conclude that Chris had to step down until the Matt rumors flew heavy and maybe he found out for sure at coach assessment meeting the weeks after our loss to ASU.
So, he reached out to Hurley, and Scheyer; who knows who else was actually contacted.
Meanwhile, the roster began taking heavy hits, Hurley got countered, and Cragg contacted Cluess, probably on his 'B List'.
Cluess has won everywhere he's coached and works hard.
Let's give Tim a chance.
All I'm sayin'.[/quote]
Yeah in bs league, no experience in the big boy league. I believe he's 0-6 in the ncaa tourny, if he was so good, then why no upsets? You see upsets in the tourny but never with iona.
Bet they never contacted thad.
ronm
Well-known member
[quote="Paultzman" post=340370]Zach B
A few things on St Johns search: Tim Cluess was at a Iona this afternoon running workouts. Buzz at St Johns centered around him, sources said. Cluess also has enlisted services of an agent for first time in career. #sjubb[/quote]
He probably wants to get the sweet deal Mullin got.
A few things on St Johns search: Tim Cluess was at a Iona this afternoon running workouts. Buzz at St Johns centered around him, sources said. Cluess also has enlisted services of an agent for first time in career. #sjubb[/quote]
He probably wants to get the sweet deal Mullin got.
[quote="MJDinkins" post=340361]Some of y'all should hear yourselves.... You're "fine" with Cluess coming on board as long as he brings in "this guy," "that guy," "a solid staff," "a great staff," "dynamic group of assistant coaches," etc.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Good dissent Dink.
I think Cragg has been 'lining up' AC candidates, notably the likes of Borman and Hsu and they'd be propped up even to Hurley if he came here.
We shall see, but this isn't just the HC Show it's the Mike Cragg and HC Show.
We'll know soon if this 'theory' is valid or all wet.
Don't get me wrong, as assistant coaches are very valuable. But I'm extremely leery of bringing in a head coach who needs certain type of assistant coaches for him to function or for me to be "cool" with it. We've already been down that road (although, I think Cluess would be a much better for us than Mullin).
I want a head coach where the first thing I think about is the head coach himself, and the assistant coaches are thought about as just that... Assistance. An integral part of our team and team building, but the head coach is clearly THAT DUDE.
If Cluess gets the job, then he may prove me wrong. But currently I just don't see him as THAT DUDE.[/quote]
Good dissent Dink.
I think Cragg has been 'lining up' AC candidates, notably the likes of Borman and Hsu and they'd be propped up even to Hurley if he came here.
We shall see, but this isn't just the HC Show it's the Mike Cragg and HC Show.
We'll know soon if this 'theory' is valid or all wet.
[quote="redken" post=340367][quote="mjmaherjr" post=340363]He has son everywhere he went. ...quote]
Quite the philanderer.
[/quote]
Cute Redken
And for those who’s here theme is:
“Are you shit....me if they hire Cluess I’m done!”
Who are you kidding?
You know you’re a fan and you’ll stay a fan
What you’ll stop following St. John’s?
Not happening
That’s my - not so humble - gut feeling
(Sorry about any ruffled feathers)
Quite the philanderer.
[/quote]Cute Redken
And for those who’s here theme is:
“Are you shit....me if they hire Cluess I’m done!”
Who are you kidding?
You know you’re a fan and you’ll stay a fan
What you’ll stop following St. John’s?
Not happening
That’s my - not so humble - gut feeling
(Sorry about any ruffled feathers)
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stuck in conn
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Why would a coach let someone else line up his staff? Only a puppet would sign up for that.
