Christian Jones

the team already had walkons from last year. this young man must have shown our expert staff something. i'll take it as a given they know more about this than the rest of us.

welcome, mr. jones. i hope you enjoy your stay at st john's.
 
 Listen, I don't know what is so hard to see what Coach is creating here....This is a team that is going to run teams out of the gym every single night. We are gunna be pressing the crap out of teams...Teams will not know what hit them. I am so stoked to see what this rotation of superior athletes will do to teams. We also answered questions with inside presence, outside shooting...now add this jumping bean to the mix, that can flat out run and jump...it's easy to see what coach is filling up his stable with...enjoy the ride people
 
Hearing the name Sean Evans made me cringe. I realize he was good for the last half of his senior year, but I'm still traumatized from his other 3.5 seasons. 
 
 I agree with what a lot of people are saying re: recruit rankings. It's not an exact science, and there are plenty of examples of kids who fly under the radar.

Point 1-
But there's a difference between being under the radar, and not on the radar. Jones has zero stars from Rivals. Now that might turn out to mean less than nothing, he could be a fantastic player. But it could also mean we're looking at a highlight reel and his in game play leaves a lot to be desired.

Point 2-
I trust the staff, but it's not treason to question their decisions. Everyone who's saying that Jones as a 13th man on the roster isn't a problem, and is an uprgrade over what we've had is right. All true. But I'm also confident that there are players of Jones's caliber that play other positions that were/are available. If Lavin wants to use all the 'ships, that's fine, but I think an argument could be made we need a backup pg, and backup C much more than a combo forward.


Point 3-
It's true that not every player on our roster needs to be a top ranked recruit.
But it's also an exaggeration to say no one comes close to that. The majority of the Syracuse and Louisville rosters were at least notable recruits. Many top 150s, and no one that I can find who was below 3 stars. And only 1 or 2 of those. Not coincidentally, those were the best teams in the BE last season, and probably will be again.

Just my 2 cents.
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Point 1- wouldn't that make Lavin an outright idiot to simply go off of highlight reels and not do his due diligence scouting the kid? Lavin saw him. Harkless saw him. Nate Blue saw him. The Texas kids know him and played with him. At what point do we start giving the staff some credit, especially for a 12/13th player?

Point 2- so we should just get size, like a 7-foot Jordan Dickerson. A guy who's not ready to step foot on the floor for Big East competition.

Or get a backup PG instead of allowing D'Angelo Harrison to expand his abilities and split duty at PG, possibly showcasing more for NBA scouts and maybe, I dunno, opening up another precious scholarship next year.

Point 3- Boehim and Pitino have been at their schools way longer than Lavin has. Lavin is turning around a program in 3 years. We're finally scraping out of the mess that Jarvis got us into and turning the corner.

Let's be glad that we don't have to rely on walk-ons this time around.

Let's be glad that (what appears to be) a good player doesn't mind committing to our school when there is an obvious logjam at his position.

Let's be glad that these commits actually want to be here. 
 
 Last year at this time, I could have seen taking someone like Jones. We had scholis to spare and Lavin knew the precarious positions of Sampson, Pelle and Garritt were in. This year we have an almost full roster and some great players on the radar. Is it possible one of our recruits,other the Wood,may not qualify?  
 
 Size alone doesn't win ballgames. Uk won this year with talent, not overwhelming size. Anthony Davis was a beast becaue of his skill set, not sheer size. The #2 pick in the draft was MKG who is a 6"5" forward who doesn't really shoot all that well, but is a jumping jack with a crazy motor. We are pushing to build a team not too different, with long athletes. This is in no way a comparison, but the point of it is that the staff is aiming to grab a bunch of players in the Kidd-Gilchrist mold who are amazing athletes that just get after it.
 
Hearing the name Sean Evans made me cringe. I realize he was good for the last half of his senior year, but I'm still traumatized from his other 3.5 seasons. 
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evans was coached up...as were some of the others, most notably dj kennedy...

our 10/11/12/13th players are guys who wouldn't have picked up the phone if one of our coaches called a few years ago.
 
Hearing the name Sean Evans made me cringe. I realize he was good for the last half of his senior year, but I'm still traumatized from his other 3.5 seasons. 
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evans was coached up...as were some of the others, most notably dj kennedy...

our 10/11/12/13th players are guys who wouldn't have picked up the phone if one of our coaches called a few years ago.
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Not sure what you mean by "coached up" but I didn't observe any improvement from dj during his senior year.

Also, there is no question that Burrell, Kennedy and Thomas, among others, were more highly rated than hooper, jones and the French guy whose name I already forgot. To say that these guys wouldn't have picked up the phone for Roberts is a bit silly.

If jones is as good a four year player for us as was Evans (a solid 8th or 9th man on a good team) I would be happy. If he turns out to be better, that's gravy.
 
Exactly, I can't wait for the season to start. Some of these nonconference teams won't even be able to get the ball past half court. Just think about how athletic our big men are!! Let alone our forwards who are all basically stretch forwards if needed (too excited).. Ps does anyone know how old Sanchez is? He looks like a grown man ha, I know he played with the DR national team. Can't wait to see him Sampson and Obekpa down low 
 
Exactly, I can't wait for the season to start. Some of these nonconference teams won't even be able to get the ball past half court. Just think about how athletic our big men are!! Let alone our forwards who are all basically stretch forwards if needed (too excited).. Ps does anyone know how old Sanchez is? He looks like a grown man ha, I know he played with the DR national team. Can't wait to see him Sampson and Obekpa down low 
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We'll certainly be able to play the style the staff wants to implement. We now have the requisite roster to go full throttle on the opposition. This should be fun to watch.

By the way, Sanchez is 24 years old.   
 
 As noted Christian Jones is unranked by ESPN, Rivals and Scout. Both ESPN and Scout did not have Jones even listed prior to his commitment to St. John's.

I have attempted to think of any former St. John's recruits that were also not ranked by any of the national services.

Initially I though of Heath Orvis (recall when the talking points for many posters on this site was that Heath was a shooter) but Heath was a McDonald's All American nominee which would appear that he may have had a ranking.

Next, Alpha Bangura came to mind as a St. John's recruit that may not have been ranked by national data bases. Unfortunately the recruiting data bases do not go back to when he was recruited out of high school but he was listed as a first team Prince George Maryland County which would make it likely that Alpha had some national ranking before proceeding on to Monmouth, achieving NEC frosh of the year and transferring to St. John's.

Can anyone think of a St. John's recruit that lacked any national ranking besides Mr. Jones?

Thanks. 
 
 As noted Christian Jones is unranked by ESPN, Rivals and Scout. Both ESPN and Scout did not have Jones even listed prior to his commitment to St. John's.

I have attempted to think of any former St. John's recruits that were also not ranked by any of the national services.

Initially I though of Heath Orvis (recall when the talking points for many posters on this site was that Heath was a shooter) but Heath was a McDonald's All American nominee which would appear that he may have had a ranking.

Next, Alpha Bangura came to mind as a St. John's recruit that may not have been ranked by national data bases. Unfortunately the recruiting data bases do not go back to when he was recruited out of high school but he was listed as a first team Prince George Maryland County which would make it likely that Alpha had some national ranking before proceeding on to Monmouth, achieving NEC frosh of the year and transferring to St. John's.

Can anyone think of a St. John's recruit that lacked any national ranking besides Mr. Jones?

Thanks. 
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Pretty sure anyone can be 'nominated' for the McDonalds game.
 
 As noted Christian Jones is unranked by ESPN, Rivals and Scout. Both ESPN and Scout did not have Jones even listed prior to his commitment to St. John's.

I have attempted to think of any former St. John's recruits that were also not ranked by any of the national services.

Initially I though of Heath Orvis (recall when the talking points for many posters on this site was that Heath was a shooter) but Heath was a McDonald's All American nominee which would appear that he may have had a ranking.

Next, Alpha Bangura came to mind as a St. John's recruit that may not have been ranked by national data bases. Unfortunately the recruiting data bases do not go back to when he was recruited out of high school but he was listed as a first team Prince George Maryland County which would make it likely that Alpha had some national ranking before proceeding on to Monmouth, achieving NEC frosh of the year and transferring to St. John's.

Can anyone think of a St. John's recruit that lacked any national ranking besides Mr. Jones?

Thanks. 
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Pretty sure anyone can be 'nominated' for the McDonalds game.
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Bingo, Moose!
 
I dont think Sean Evans was on a couple of sites. maybe him
 
 As noted Christian Jones is unranked by ESPN, Rivals and Scout. Both ESPN and Scout did not have Jones even listed prior to his commitment to St. John's.

I have attempted to think of any former St. John's recruits that were also not ranked by any of the national services.

Initially I though of Heath Orvis (recall when the talking points for many posters on this site was that Heath was a shooter) but Heath was a McDonald's All American nominee which would appear that he may have had a ranking.

Next, Alpha Bangura came to mind as a St. John's recruit that may not have been ranked by national data bases. Unfortunately the recruiting data bases do not go back to when he was recruited out of high school but he was listed as a first team Prince George Maryland County which would make it likely that Alpha had some national ranking before proceeding on to Monmouth, achieving NEC frosh of the year and transferring to St. John's.

Can anyone think of a St. John's recruit that lacked any national ranking besides Mr. Jones?

Thanks. 
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Pretty sure anyone can be 'nominated' for the McDonalds game.
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I would add that if Jones is the first we have had an awful lot of mediocre ranked players the since Louie left.
 
 As noted Christian Jones is unranked by ESPN, Rivals and Scout. Both ESPN and Scout did not have Jones even listed prior to his commitment to St. John's.

I have attempted to think of any former St. John's recruits that were also not ranked by any of the national services.

Initially I though of Heath Orvis (recall when the talking points for many posters on this site was that Heath was a shooter) but Heath was a McDonald's All American nominee which would appear that he may have had a ranking.

Next, Alpha Bangura came to mind as a St. John's recruit that may not have been ranked by national data bases. Unfortunately the recruiting data bases do not go back to when he was recruited out of high school but he was listed as a first team Prince George Maryland County which would make it likely that Alpha had some national ranking before proceeding on to Monmouth, achieving NEC frosh of the year and transferring to St. John's.

Can anyone think of a St. John's recruit that lacked any national ranking besides Mr. Jones?

Thanks. 
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Pretty sure anyone can be 'nominated' for the McDonalds game.
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There are about 1500 nominees.
 
So much dramma for the 13th man. Lavin see's something in the kid give it a break. Judge the kid after he graduates or leaves, not before he gets here.  
 
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