...Can we make the Tournament?

[gman]

I still think we should be in based on the last 10-12 games. We were so young early in the year and had a couple young team moments over the past month, but no one would want to face our team firing on all cylinders. 

The main problem I see is beating SHU will do nothing more for our profile. The computers will give us credit for beating a high ranked Nova, but based on injuries the committee might not. The only real resume improving win we can get will be in the BE Finals. 

I don't believe any BE team with an over .500 win has ever missed out. 

 

[MCNPA]

All bets are off in the BET.  Gotta beat whomever your face.  The biggest bonus is having a first round bye.  Aside from that they're all tough.  I don't love playing the same team but we know we can beat them if we play the way we are capable.  Getting posh and Moore on board would certainly be more than helpful for the next matchup though.  

 

[otis]

20 minutes ago CBS's Bracketoligist Jerry Palm released his updated NCAA tournament analysis

St. John's was not among the 19 "bubble teams" Mr. Palm listed which confirms my belief that ESPN's Joe Lunardi is much smarter than Palm since Joe lists StJ's as one of his "Next 4 Out" bubble teams.

BEAT  SETON HALL

Palm
[URL]https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/[/URL]

Lunardi
[URL]http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology[/URL]

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[Mullins Revenge]

Maryland and Michigan state losing today would be good for our tourney hopes.

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

I don't get Xavier getting  a better shot than us . They had a losing BE Record , only played  13  League games and they dragged themselves to the finish line .  Even with our Butler and DePaul losses , we finished strong with unbelievable come from behind Wins vs PC and Seton Hall . We get no respect . Guess that's a result of our 21 year doldrums .  And , Seton Hall ? We have the better overall record .  The Pirates are gliding on past accomplishments .  

 

[Moon Mullen]

I don't get Xavier getting  a better shot than us . They had a losing BE Record , only played  13  League games and they dragged themselves to the finish line .  Even with our Butler and DePaul losses , we finished strong with unbelievable come from behind Wins vs PC and Seton Hall . We get no respect . Guess that's a result of our 21 year doldrums .  And , Seton Hall ? We have the better overall record .  The Pirates are gliding on past accomplishments .  

Lunardi works for the Big Eastless ESPN.  However the NCAA Comittee includes how a team finishes in their analysis I believe. A 1-5 start vs 9-4 finish in the league.  I don't think they will ignore this stat. Win Thursday against Seton Hall and we are definitely in, not this win the Tournament and they are in that I keep hearing.  IMO!

 

[MBaldi]

After two impressive/comebacks, my biggest concern is also a positive, I.e., this team has shown it can play a very sluggish first half and then flip a switch to overtake teams with their high motor in fhe second half.  

It's of course a significant challenge to play 40 minutes in gear 5 (which is what made those Arkansas teams so unusual), but there is too much talent at this level to continue to follow the "second half" blueprint -- especially in the conference tournament. My hope is that CMA can impress upon these amazing kids the need to play with a sense of urgency throughout the game. 

Looking forward to what will hopefully be an exciting BE tournament -- and whatever may follow thereafter!!

 

[ras]

I agree w RMN I think 2 wins in the BE tourney gets us in, but it won't be easy. Too bad we started so bad in conference.

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

I agree w RMN I think 2 wins in the BE tourney gets us in, but it won't be easy. Too bad we started so bad in conference.

Dear R A S
thanks
a lot of good going on now
im
just  going to enjoy
no matter what... NCAA? NIT? No Tourney?
All good for me as we are ahead of schedule imo and the rest in 2021 is gravy...of course another W would be sweet
 

 

[Amaseinyourface]

After two impressive/comebacks, my biggest concern is also a positive, I.e., this team has shown it can play a very sluggish first half and then flip a switch to overtake teams with their high motor in fhe second half.  

It's of course a significant challenge to play 40 minutes in gear 5 (which is what made those Arkansas teams so unusual), but there is too much talent at this level to continue to follow the "second half" blueprint -- especially in the conference tournament. My hope is that CMA can impress upon these amazing kids the need to play with a sense of urgency throughout the game. 

Looking forward to what will hopefully be an exciting BE tournament -- and whatever may follow thereafter!!

I don’t think it’s necessarily a first half / second half thing. The previous winning streak we saw much of the exact opposite. Jumping out to big first half leads and doing our best to hold on. I think it says more about our ability to go on really impressive runs. When we get going we really get going.

 

[boo haarvey]

I don't get Xavier getting  a better shot than us . They had a losing BE Record , only played  13  League games and they dragged themselves to the finish line .  Even with our Butler and DePaul losses , we finished strong with unbelievable come from behind Wins vs PC and Seton Hall . We get no respect . Guess that's a result of our 21 year doldrums .  And , Seton Hall ? We have the better overall record .  The Pirates are gliding on past accomplishments .  

Lunardi works for the Big Eastless ESPN.  However the NCAA Comittee includes how a team finishes in their analysis I believe. A 1-5 start vs 9-4 finish in the league.  I don't think they will ignore this stat. Win Thursday against Seton Hall and we are definitely in, not this win the Tournament and they are in that I keep hearing.  IMO!

Sorry, but      you are mistaken. If we beat Seton Hall we are not "definitely in."  To the contrary, if we do not get to the Big East finals we are "definitely" not in.  And even getting to the finals provides us with no assurances, particularly if we play Marquette instead of Nova

 

[Mullins Revenge]

I don't get Xavier getting  a better shot than us . They had a losing BE Record , only played  13  League games and they dragged themselves to the finish line .  Even with our Butler and DePaul losses , we finished strong with unbelievable come from behind Wins vs PC and Seton Hall . We get no respect . Guess that's a result of our 21 year doldrums .  And , Seton Hall ? We have the better overall record .  The Pirates are gliding on past accomplishments .  

Lunardi works for the Big Eastless ESPN.  However the NCAA Comittee includes how a team finishes in their analysis I believe. A 1-5 start vs 9-4 finish in the league.  I don't think they will ignore this stat. Win Thursday against Seton Hall and we are definitely in, not this win the Tournament and they are in that I keep hearing.  IMO!

Sorry, but      you are mistaken. If we beat Seton Hall we are not "definitely in."  To the contrary, if we do not get to the Big East finals we are "definitely" not in.  And even getting to the finals provides us with no assurances, particularly if we play Marquette instead of Nova

You cant finish 4th in the big east and make it to the big east finals game and not get in.

If we are playing for the championship on Sat, win or lose we r in.

 

[GardenCity62]

If Posh is back and SJU can beat Seton Hall SJU will have an advantage in game two playing an opponent who is playing back to back games or possibly their third game in three days. Anderson's policy of playing many players for meaningful minutes all season , not garbage time minutes will give SJU an advantage the longer they stay alive.

 

[paultzman]

 Brad Wachtel, far better at this than Lunardi imo;

My last 8 teams in (safest to least safe): UNC, UCLA, Louisville, Drake, Colorado St, Boise St, Saint Louis, Michigan St

My first 8 teams out: Utah St, Ole Miss, Seton Hall, Xavier, Syracuse, St. John's, NC State, Duke

 

 

[Andrew]

I would be surprised if many who read this board things another win over Seton Hall gets us in. We need to win the semifinal game. A win over Villanova would definitely be preferable and not easy particularly without Posh. I thing if we get that second winwe have a good chance but it will still be down to the wire. I just hope we play our best and give a good accounting of ourselves on Thursday and if we win on Friday. Proud of this team.

 

[MCNPA]

I don't get Xavier getting  a better shot than us . They had a losing BE Record , only played  13  League games and they dragged themselves to the finish line .  Even with our Butler and DePaul losses , we finished strong with unbelievable come from behind Wins vs PC and Seton Hall . We get no respect . Guess that's a result of our 21 year doldrums .  And , Seton Hall ? We have the better overall record .  The Pirates are gliding on past accomplishments .  

Lunardi works for the Big Eastless ESPN.  However the NCAA Comittee includes how a team finishes in their analysis I believe. A 1-5 start vs 9-4 finish in the league.  I don't think they will ignore this stat. Win Thursday against Seton Hall and we are definitely in, not this win the Tournament and they are in that I keep hearing.  IMO!

Sorry, but      you are mistaken. If we beat Seton Hall we are not "definitely in."  To the contrary, if we do not get to the Big East finals we are "definitely" not in.  And even getting to the finals provides us with no assurances, particularly if we play Marquette instead of Nova

You cant finish 4th in the big east and make it to the big east finals game and not get in.

If we are playing for the championship on Sat, win or lose we r in.

agree here.  I think we have to get to the finals and should be in.  Can't see getting denied at that spot.  Let's just win this thing and keep our season going!!
 

 

[IDRAFT]

Providence is now 76 in NET. If they move up one spot before Selection Sunday doesn't the Away win become Quad 1? The nutty way they now pick the teams, wouldn't this be potentially important?  

 

[MCNPA]

Providence is now 76 in NET. If they move up one spot before Selection Sunday doesn't the Away win become Quad 1? The nutty way they now pick the teams, wouldn't this be potentially important?  

Good point!  Go Providence!!  ;-)

 

[Mean Gene]

 Brad Wachtel, far better at this than Lunardi imo;

My last 8 teams in (safest to least safe): UNC, UCLA, Louisville, Drake, Colorado St, Boise St, Saint Louis, Michigan St

My first 8 teams out: Utah St, Ole Miss, Seton Hall, Xavier, Syracuse, St. John's, NC State, Duke


I've been saying for weeks now that we need 18 wins to guarantee an NCAA bid. We need two wins this week. The first win gets us from that second group into the first group and second win gets us in the tournament. We need to get to the conference final and not get blown out in that game. 


 

 

[otis]

For what its worth, according to one NIT Bracketologist our beloved St. John's is listed as a #13 out of a field of 16 teams in the NIT Field.
https://thebarkingcrow.com/nit-bracketology/

Granted I am biased but I cannot understand why our Johnnies are not getting more love for finishing 4th in the Big East regular season with wins in the last 9 of 12 games highlited by a win over Villanova and Yukon at Yukon.

BEAT  SETON HALL