Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon
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I don't get the people dismissing this thing, hooting 'see', it didn't kill 2,000,000--so it was a 'hoax'.
Well, a couple things: It has killed 112,000+; would've killed many additional souls if we hadn't sheltered-in-place, social distanced, and worn masks; and it's not over.
We're riding it and have no clue what it does next.
And it's likely that premature re-openings in some States and the legitimate nationwide protests over George Floyd's murder will lead to rising cases.
I wouldn't dismiss it. Let's pray it's over soon, but It's not over yet.
Well, a couple things: It has killed 112,000+; would've killed many additional souls if we hadn't sheltered-in-place, social distanced, and worn masks; and it's not over.
We're riding it and have no clue what it does next.
And it's likely that premature re-openings in some States and the legitimate nationwide protests over George Floyd's murder will lead to rising cases.
I wouldn't dismiss it. Let's pray it's over soon, but It's not over yet.
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L J S A
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The only thing that will make 100 percent of people take the pandemic seriously is if it starts causing permanent baldness and makes your dick fall off. Other than that, not even the threat of grandparents and parents dying will stop guys like Zaun and Duke of Earlington from complaining.
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=389336]CNBC: Asymptomatic spread of COVID "very rare" per WHO.
And some of you were acting like I was crazy. This whole thing has been vastly, vastly overblown and botched. The governments are lucky there aren't riots over this.[/quote]
You would feel differently if you had someone close to you suffer/die from it
And some of you were acting like I was crazy. This whole thing has been vastly, vastly overblown and botched. The governments are lucky there aren't riots over this.[/quote]
You would feel differently if you had someone close to you suffer/die from it
The Dodgers, Yankees and Cardinals all averaged over 40k a game last year with the Dodgers at 49k. 10 more teams were over 30k a game. That's for 81 home games and that's a ton of people. There are a handful of teams that don't draw flies, especially the 2 Florida teams and then for the most part the teams with no hope at all for years like Baltimore. I'd say Baseball is pretty healthy
NBA was all set to come back but they are losing momentum due to some discussions from the players who don’t want to distract from the BLM movement.
NHL is all set though haha
NHL is all set though haha
So the NBA is officially in a bit of a pickle with players stating that they don’t want to cause distraction to what’s going on in the country by playing basketball.
Honestly I understand what they are trying to say and their heart is in the right place, but when it comes to racism and racial inequality, I’m not sure stopping basketball for a couple more months really moves the needle...
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
But at the same time, if the season gets cancelled the next season probably starts around November/December. Is it really worth not playing. What can happen in that short of a period of time. I don’t know. I’m iffy on this one.
Bomani Jones made a good point about this. I’m not even a huge fan of the guy I think he can be annoying at times and pretentious but I agree with him here...
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1272170491692924929?s=21
Honestly I understand what they are trying to say and their heart is in the right place, but when it comes to racism and racial inequality, I’m not sure stopping basketball for a couple more months really moves the needle...
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
But at the same time, if the season gets cancelled the next season probably starts around November/December. Is it really worth not playing. What can happen in that short of a period of time. I don’t know. I’m iffy on this one.
Bomani Jones made a good point about this. I’m not even a huge fan of the guy I think he can be annoying at times and pretentious but I agree with him here...
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1272170491692924929?s=21
[quote="Jack Williams" post=389843]So the NBA is officially in a bit of a pickle with players stating that they don’t want to cause distraction to what’s going on in the country by playing basketball.
Honestly I understand what they are trying to say and their heart is in the right place, but when it comes to racism and racial inequality, I’m not sure stopping basketball for a couple more months really moves the needle...
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
But at the same time, if the season gets cancelled the next season probably starts around November/December. Is it really worth not playing. What can happen in that short of a period of time. I don’t know. I’m iffy on this one.
Bomani Jones made a good point about this. I’m not even a huge fan of the guy I think he can be annoying at times and pretentious but I agree with him here...
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1272170491692924929?s=21[/quote]
I am in agreement with you on this Jack. Let's play the season out. If you want to use your leverage have the NBA and teams contribute to after school and other programs for the youth. That would be making a statement. Ask teams to put aside a certain number of tickets to games in the future for elementary and high schools. Set up summer camps for the youth. This is how you make a difference.
This racial divide is not going to be solved in a month. However if you set up some programs where youth of all colors can participate in together, hopefully the next generation will have some familiarity with each other.
A few ears ago a friend of mine Ricky Marsh, who played at Nebraska and Manhattan, was at Carnesecca to see the St Johns/Nebraska game. Rick lives outside of Chicago now and was in town to visit relatives. At halftime, I brought Rick over to Coach C's seat and Rick reminded him of the time he had a good game when Manhattan beat St Johns. Rick wanted to come to St Johns when he was leaving Nebraska but Coach told him he already had his backcourt.
However, what Rick enjoyed most about the evening was sharing memories with Frank Alagia. They talked about playing together in the summer and the tournaments they won, especially the tournament run by Frank Morris, the legendary St Agnes high school coach. When Rick told his best friend, Calvin Bruton, who played at Wichita St and then had a legendary playing and coaching career in Australia where he still lives, Calvin also talked about how great it was to play with Frank.
Sports used to be the common denominator for our youth, sadly, that is no longer the case.
Honestly I understand what they are trying to say and their heart is in the right place, but when it comes to racism and racial inequality, I’m not sure stopping basketball for a couple more months really moves the needle...
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
But at the same time, if the season gets cancelled the next season probably starts around November/December. Is it really worth not playing. What can happen in that short of a period of time. I don’t know. I’m iffy on this one.
Bomani Jones made a good point about this. I’m not even a huge fan of the guy I think he can be annoying at times and pretentious but I agree with him here...
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1272170491692924929?s=21[/quote]
I am in agreement with you on this Jack. Let's play the season out. If you want to use your leverage have the NBA and teams contribute to after school and other programs for the youth. That would be making a statement. Ask teams to put aside a certain number of tickets to games in the future for elementary and high schools. Set up summer camps for the youth. This is how you make a difference.
This racial divide is not going to be solved in a month. However if you set up some programs where youth of all colors can participate in together, hopefully the next generation will have some familiarity with each other.
A few ears ago a friend of mine Ricky Marsh, who played at Nebraska and Manhattan, was at Carnesecca to see the St Johns/Nebraska game. Rick lives outside of Chicago now and was in town to visit relatives. At halftime, I brought Rick over to Coach C's seat and Rick reminded him of the time he had a good game when Manhattan beat St Johns. Rick wanted to come to St Johns when he was leaving Nebraska but Coach told him he already had his backcourt.
However, what Rick enjoyed most about the evening was sharing memories with Frank Alagia. They talked about playing together in the summer and the tournaments they won, especially the tournament run by Frank Morris, the legendary St Agnes high school coach. When Rick told his best friend, Calvin Bruton, who played at Wichita St and then had a legendary playing and coaching career in Australia where he still lives, Calvin also talked about how great it was to play with Frank.
Sports used to be the common denominator for our youth, sadly, that is no longer the case.
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[quote="Jack Williams" post=389769]NBA was all set to come back but they are losing momentum due to some discussions from the players who don’t want to distract from the BLM movement.
NHL is all set though haha[/quote]
Let those players take unpaid leaves to support the "movement". Hold workouts to replace them. Make the term of the leave a minimum of 12 months. Not one black NBA player will sign on.
As for BLM, their racist and pro queer agenda is pretty clear. It was founded by 3 angry black lesbians and yesterday in Brooklyn thousands attended a Black Transgender Lives Matter rally. I didn't see any Knick players there or any other homophobic black players.
BLM is NOT active in the black community in building economic and educational opportunities. They are strictly provocateurs. Their skillset is limited to making cardboard signs and their leftist white supporters are gifted with the ability to incite with spray paint.
They strictly focus on the fraction of violence that they cleverly identify as white on black violence while completely minimizing the greatest danger to black lives within their own communities"black on black" crime.
Their charter clearly states that :
"organize and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.
Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise."
NHL is all set though haha[/quote]
Let those players take unpaid leaves to support the "movement". Hold workouts to replace them. Make the term of the leave a minimum of 12 months. Not one black NBA player will sign on.
As for BLM, their racist and pro queer agenda is pretty clear. It was founded by 3 angry black lesbians and yesterday in Brooklyn thousands attended a Black Transgender Lives Matter rally. I didn't see any Knick players there or any other homophobic black players.
BLM is NOT active in the black community in building economic and educational opportunities. They are strictly provocateurs. Their skillset is limited to making cardboard signs and their leftist white supporters are gifted with the ability to incite with spray paint.
They strictly focus on the fraction of violence that they cleverly identify as white on black violence while completely minimizing the greatest danger to black lives within their own communities"black on black" crime.
Their charter clearly states that :
"organize and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.
Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise."
Actually agree with '72 that organizing resistance is easier than organizing to build problem-solving capacity. One feeds on emotion and the other on hard work and long-term planning. I was trained in the latter but exposed my students to Abbie Hoffman back in the day.
[quote="Jack Williams" post=389843]
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
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Jack,
I truly appreciate your honesty but I could care less if professional sports ever comes back, it is just sports, no more no less. There are so many crucial issues facing North American society today ( in Canada the police kill and brutalize both Black and Indigenous members of Society at far too high a rate, we had multiple deaths the last few weeks in a country with one tenth of the US population ) the Coronavirus is no where near under control ( see Ontario, Texas, California, Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi off the top of my head ) and unemployment in both countries is at levels we have not seen since the great depression. As Panther recently pointed out the cost of a post-secondary education is prohibitive. Systematic racism still exists in North America. We hopefully can improve police behaviour in the future but nothing is being done to level the playing field in any manner in terms of education, health care, job opportunities and provide a better future for all. The inherent structural problems will still remain long after the protests die down. After that the virus will still be present, colleges and universities will start to shut down and State and local governments will be in a terrible financial bind. Unfortunately those are the facts.
To me everyone of those issues is far more important than professional sports. And by the way I recently gave up my season tickets for the Montreal Canadians after having had them for years. And there is a waiting list for same the same way there is a waiting list for Kentucky Wildcat Basketball Season Tickets.
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
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Jack,
I truly appreciate your honesty but I could care less if professional sports ever comes back, it is just sports, no more no less. There are so many crucial issues facing North American society today ( in Canada the police kill and brutalize both Black and Indigenous members of Society at far too high a rate, we had multiple deaths the last few weeks in a country with one tenth of the US population ) the Coronavirus is no where near under control ( see Ontario, Texas, California, Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi off the top of my head ) and unemployment in both countries is at levels we have not seen since the great depression. As Panther recently pointed out the cost of a post-secondary education is prohibitive. Systematic racism still exists in North America. We hopefully can improve police behaviour in the future but nothing is being done to level the playing field in any manner in terms of education, health care, job opportunities and provide a better future for all. The inherent structural problems will still remain long after the protests die down. After that the virus will still be present, colleges and universities will start to shut down and State and local governments will be in a terrible financial bind. Unfortunately those are the facts.
To me everyone of those issues is far more important than professional sports. And by the way I recently gave up my season tickets for the Montreal Canadians after having had them for years. And there is a waiting list for same the same way there is a waiting list for Kentucky Wildcat Basketball Season Tickets.
[quote="panther2" post=389852][quote="Jack Williams" post=389843]So the NBA is officially in a bit of a pickle with players stating that they don’t want to cause distraction to what’s going on in the country by playing basketball.
Honestly I understand what they are trying to say and their heart is in the right place, but when it comes to racism and racial inequality, I’m not sure stopping basketball for a couple more months really moves the needle...
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
But at the same time, if the season gets cancelled the next season probably starts around November/December. Is it really worth not playing. What can happen in that short of a period of time. I don’t know. I’m iffy on this one.
Bomani Jones made a good point about this. I’m not even a huge fan of the guy I think he can be annoying at times and pretentious but I agree with him here...
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1272170491692924929?s=21[/quote]
I am in agreement with you on this Jack. Let's play the season out. If you want to use your leverage have the NBA and teams contribute to after school and other programs for the youth. That would be making a statement. Ask teams to put aside a certain number of tickets to games in the future for elementary and high schools. Set up summer camps for the youth. This is how you make a difference.
This racial divide is not going to be solved in a month. However if you set up some programs where youth of all colors can participate in together, hopefully the next generation will have some familiarity with each other.
A few ears ago a friend of mine Ricky Marsh, who played at Nebraska and Manhattan, was at Carnesecca to see the St Johns/Nebraska game. Rick lives outside of Chicago now and was in town to visit relatives. At halftime, I brought Rick over to Coach C's seat and Rick reminded him of the time he had a good game when Manhattan beat St Johns. Rick wanted to come to St Johns when he was leaving Nebraska but Coach told him he already had his backcourt.
However, what Rick enjoyed most about the evening was sharing memories with Frank Alagia. They talked about playing together in the summer and the tournaments they won, especially the tournament run by Frank Morris, the legendary St Agnes high school coach. When Rick told his best friend, Calvin Bruton, who played at Wichita St and then had a legendary playing and coaching career in Australia where he still lives, Calvin also talked about how great it was to play with Frank.
Sports used to be the common denominator for our youth, sadly, that is no longer the case.[/quote]
Manhattan had a nice team with Ricky, Tom Lockhart et al
Honestly I understand what they are trying to say and their heart is in the right place, but when it comes to racism and racial inequality, I’m not sure stopping basketball for a couple more months really moves the needle...
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
But at the same time, if the season gets cancelled the next season probably starts around November/December. Is it really worth not playing. What can happen in that short of a period of time. I don’t know. I’m iffy on this one.
Bomani Jones made a good point about this. I’m not even a huge fan of the guy I think he can be annoying at times and pretentious but I agree with him here...
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1272170491692924929?s=21[/quote]
I am in agreement with you on this Jack. Let's play the season out. If you want to use your leverage have the NBA and teams contribute to after school and other programs for the youth. That would be making a statement. Ask teams to put aside a certain number of tickets to games in the future for elementary and high schools. Set up summer camps for the youth. This is how you make a difference.
This racial divide is not going to be solved in a month. However if you set up some programs where youth of all colors can participate in together, hopefully the next generation will have some familiarity with each other.
A few ears ago a friend of mine Ricky Marsh, who played at Nebraska and Manhattan, was at Carnesecca to see the St Johns/Nebraska game. Rick lives outside of Chicago now and was in town to visit relatives. At halftime, I brought Rick over to Coach C's seat and Rick reminded him of the time he had a good game when Manhattan beat St Johns. Rick wanted to come to St Johns when he was leaving Nebraska but Coach told him he already had his backcourt.
However, what Rick enjoyed most about the evening was sharing memories with Frank Alagia. They talked about playing together in the summer and the tournaments they won, especially the tournament run by Frank Morris, the legendary St Agnes high school coach. When Rick told his best friend, Calvin Bruton, who played at Wichita St and then had a legendary playing and coaching career in Australia where he still lives, Calvin also talked about how great it was to play with Frank.
Sports used to be the common denominator for our youth, sadly, that is no longer the case.[/quote]
Manhattan had a nice team with Ricky, Tom Lockhart et al
[quote="redmannorth" post=389870][quote="Jack Williams" post=389843]
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
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Jack,
I truly appreciate your honesty but I could care less if professional sports ever comes back, it is just sports, no more no less. There are so many crucial issues facing North American society today ( in Canada the police kill and brutalize both Black and Indigenous members of Society at far too high a rate, we had multiple deaths the last few weeks in a country with one tenth of the US population ) the Coronavirus is no where near under control ( see Ontario, Texas, California, Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi off the top of my head ) and unemployment in both countries is at levels we have not seen since the great depression. As Panther recently pointed out the cost of a post-secondary education is prohibitive. Systematic racism still exists in North America. We hopefully can improve police behaviour in the future but nothing is being done to level the playing field in any manner in terms of education, health care, job opportunities and provide a better future for all. The inherent structural problems will still remain long after the protests die down. After that the virus will still be present, colleges and universities will start to shut down and State and local governments will be in a terrible financial bind. Unfortunately those are the facts.
To me everyone of those issues is far more important than professional sports. And by the way I recently gave up my season tickets for the Montreal Canadians after having had them for years. And there is a waiting list for same the same way there is a waiting list for Kentucky Wildcat Basketball Season Tickets.[/quote]
No sports isn’t just sports. Sports is big business that employs not only the athletes but countless other related businesses. You complain about the unemployment rate which has only become an issue because we shut down the economy including sports. We need our sports back and we need it now. Not only to get people back to work but to give us something to do other than watch CNN push their agenda all day.
And I’m definitely a little selfish when it comes to this because I really do want basketball back.
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Jack,
I truly appreciate your honesty but I could care less if professional sports ever comes back, it is just sports, no more no less. There are so many crucial issues facing North American society today ( in Canada the police kill and brutalize both Black and Indigenous members of Society at far too high a rate, we had multiple deaths the last few weeks in a country with one tenth of the US population ) the Coronavirus is no where near under control ( see Ontario, Texas, California, Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi off the top of my head ) and unemployment in both countries is at levels we have not seen since the great depression. As Panther recently pointed out the cost of a post-secondary education is prohibitive. Systematic racism still exists in North America. We hopefully can improve police behaviour in the future but nothing is being done to level the playing field in any manner in terms of education, health care, job opportunities and provide a better future for all. The inherent structural problems will still remain long after the protests die down. After that the virus will still be present, colleges and universities will start to shut down and State and local governments will be in a terrible financial bind. Unfortunately those are the facts.
To me everyone of those issues is far more important than professional sports. And by the way I recently gave up my season tickets for the Montreal Canadians after having had them for years. And there is a waiting list for same the same way there is a waiting list for Kentucky Wildcat Basketball Season Tickets.[/quote]
No sports isn’t just sports. Sports is big business that employs not only the athletes but countless other related businesses. You complain about the unemployment rate which has only become an issue because we shut down the economy including sports. We need our sports back and we need it now. Not only to get people back to work but to give us something to do other than watch CNN push their agenda all day.
2 MLB and 1 NHL facility closed today. 23 players on Clemson test positive. Main event in this weeks fight card cancelled due to positive test for manager. PGA player tests positive after playing first round. (who knew Nick Watney still had his card?). Staff serving, cleaning for and entertaining NBA bubble will come from outside the bubble. Never mind Zeke and the other Cowboys and Texans who tested positive last week.
Sports better be ready to play through positive Covid tests and exposure, despite the obvious risks, or sports ain't coming back this year. Fans this year is a pipe dream.
Sports better be ready to play through positive Covid tests and exposure, despite the obvious risks, or sports ain't coming back this year. Fans this year is a pipe dream.
[quote="austour" post=390259]2 MLB and 1 NHL facility closed today. 23 players on Clemson test positive. Main event in this weeks fight card cancelled due to positive test for manager. PGA player tests positive after playing first round. (who knew Nick Watney still had his card?). Staff serving, cleaning for and entertaining NBA bubble will come from outside the bubble. Never mind Zeke and the other Cowboys and Texans who tested positive last week.
Sports better be ready to play through positive Covid tests and exposure, despite the obvious risks, or sports ain't coming back this year. Fans this year is a pipe dream.[/quote]
I think you're right. Here's hoping we're wrong.
Sports better be ready to play through positive Covid tests and exposure, despite the obvious risks, or sports ain't coming back this year. Fans this year is a pipe dream.[/quote]
I think you're right. Here's hoping we're wrong.
I have had to go into work several times this month and have been out an about more lately. My anecdotal observation is that we are letting our guard down. People hate the masks and have them around their necks more than on their faces. There are a lot of get-togethers without social distancing and everyone seems to be rationalizing why it's okay to interact (maskless) with certain people who are "also quarantining".
I think it is very possible that, when the next round comes, we will sky rocket again.
I think it is very possible that, when the next round comes, we will sky rocket again.
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=390261][quote="austour" post=390259]2 MLB and 1 NHL facility closed today. 23 players on Clemson test positive. Main event in this weeks fight card cancelled due to positive test for manager. PGA player tests positive after playing first round. (who knew Nick Watney still had his card?). Staff serving, cleaning for and entertaining NBA bubble will come from outside the bubble. Never mind Zeke and the other Cowboys and Texans who tested positive last week.
Sports better be ready to play through positive Covid tests and exposure, despite the obvious risks, or sports ain't coming back this year. Fans this year is a pipe dream.[/quote]
I think you're right. Here's hoping we're wrong.[/quote]
Until there's a vaccine it's the reality. Too much money involved to not at least try. Though the economic benefit for society is quite small. They don't need to employ the folks who need to be employed, who can't afford to keep sitting around the house. The ushers, the concessions workers, cleaners, parking attendants, et. al.
And yeah, I drive around, and we're a mask mandatory state now, but you still wouldn't know it from the sidewalks of Venice. Too many folks just won't put them on, though less than last week I will admit. I don't know what people are thinking. Is it keeping them from getting laid or is there something else that keeps them from getting laid that makes them too insecure to wear a mask.
Sports better be ready to play through positive Covid tests and exposure, despite the obvious risks, or sports ain't coming back this year. Fans this year is a pipe dream.[/quote]
I think you're right. Here's hoping we're wrong.[/quote]
Until there's a vaccine it's the reality. Too much money involved to not at least try. Though the economic benefit for society is quite small. They don't need to employ the folks who need to be employed, who can't afford to keep sitting around the house. The ushers, the concessions workers, cleaners, parking attendants, et. al.
And yeah, I drive around, and we're a mask mandatory state now, but you still wouldn't know it from the sidewalks of Venice. Too many folks just won't put them on, though less than last week I will admit. I don't know what people are thinking. Is it keeping them from getting laid or is there something else that keeps them from getting laid that makes them too insecure to wear a mask.
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MarkRedman
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Once states started to open things up, people became complacent, thought everything was OK and no longer felt the need to wear a mask. Those states that opened up early are seeing a spike in the number of positive tests. I just left Florida, where in my humble opinion, they opened too many things way too quickly and are now paying the price. Many people have criticized Gov. Cuomo for not opening things quicker but that data shows that NY is in a much better place right now than Florida or many of the other states that have loosened up things much quicker.
While I have not always been a fan of Gov. Cuomo, he has done an excellent job of keeping a level head in managing the state through the pandemic IMO.
While I have not always been a fan of Gov. Cuomo, he has done an excellent job of keeping a level head in managing the state through the pandemic IMO.
Ray Morgan
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[quote="MarkRedman" post=390269]Once states started to open things up, people became complacent, thought everything was OK and no longer felt the need to wear a mask. Those states that opened up early are seeing a spike in the number of positive tests. I just left Florida, where in my humble opinion, they opened too many things way too quickly and are now paying the price. Many people have criticized Gov. Cuomo for not opening things quicker but that data shows that NY is in a much better place right now than Florida or many of the other states that have loosened up things much quicker.
While I have not always been a fan of Gov. Cuomo, he has done an excellent job of keeping a level head in managing the state through the pandemic IMO.[/quote]
The states on the upswing for positive cases are the states with the most science naysayers and conspiracy theorists. The funny part of science is that it bites anyone in the ass that rejects it.
Florida is off the rails. I have seen packed bars and restaurants in South Florida starting the day things opened. It's not just the customers ditching the masks, but even the cooks and wait staff in a few restaurants.
As Redmannorth pointed out, the last few months have not been shining moments for the U.S. and much of the world. Outside of the Vietnam War, I don't recall seeing the nation this divided and mismanaged. Between the virus and the violence, it is hard to be anything but a pessimist. Which is why I would like to see sports come back. The country needs a distraction from all of the madness. The NBA could fold for all I care. Maybe a league as cool as the ABA will rise in its place. I miss baseball. Any game played outdoors in the summer is fine with me. I read somewhere that the nation's pharmacies are out of Zoloft and other anti-depressants. I just would like to hear "play ball" sometime soon.
While I have not always been a fan of Gov. Cuomo, he has done an excellent job of keeping a level head in managing the state through the pandemic IMO.[/quote]
The states on the upswing for positive cases are the states with the most science naysayers and conspiracy theorists. The funny part of science is that it bites anyone in the ass that rejects it.
Florida is off the rails. I have seen packed bars and restaurants in South Florida starting the day things opened. It's not just the customers ditching the masks, but even the cooks and wait staff in a few restaurants.
As Redmannorth pointed out, the last few months have not been shining moments for the U.S. and much of the world. Outside of the Vietnam War, I don't recall seeing the nation this divided and mismanaged. Between the virus and the violence, it is hard to be anything but a pessimist. Which is why I would like to see sports come back. The country needs a distraction from all of the madness. The NBA could fold for all I care. Maybe a league as cool as the ABA will rise in its place. I miss baseball. Any game played outdoors in the summer is fine with me. I read somewhere that the nation's pharmacies are out of Zoloft and other anti-depressants. I just would like to hear "play ball" sometime soon.
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MarkRedman
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[quote="Ray Morgan" post=390281][quote="MarkRedman" post=390269]Once states started to open things up, people became complacent, thought everything was OK and no longer felt the need to wear a mask. Those states that opened up early are seeing a spike in the number of positive tests. I just left Florida, where in my humble opinion, they opened too many things way too quickly and are now paying the price. Many people have criticized Gov. Cuomo for not opening things quicker but that data shows that NY is in a much better place right now than Florida or many of the other states that have loosened up things much quicker.
While I have not always been a fan of Gov. Cuomo, he has done an excellent job of keeping a level head in managing the state through the pandemic IMO.[/quote]
The states on the upswing for positive cases are the states with the most science naysayers and conspiracy theorists. The funny part of science is that it bites anyone in the ass that rejects it.
Florida is off the rails. I have seen packed bars and restaurants in South Florida starting the day things opened. It's not just the customers ditching the masks, but even the cooks and wait staff in a few restaurants.
As Redmannorth pointed out, the last few months have not been shining moments for the U.S. and much of the world. Outside of the Vietnam War, I don't recall seeing the nation this divided and mismanaged. Between the virus and the violence, it is hard to be anything but a pessimist. Which is why I would like to see sports come back. The country needs a distraction from all of the madness. The NBA could fold for all I care. Maybe a league as cool as the ABA will rise in its place. I miss baseball. Any game played outdoors in the summer is fine with me. I read somewhere that the nation's pharmacies are out of Zoloft and other anti-depressants. I just would like to hear "play ball" sometime soon.[/quote]
I , too, would like nothing more than to see sports come back. As my wife would tell you, if the game involves a ball, I'm all in. But the outbreaks in the few camps that were opened with a minimal number of players (and now have closed) like the Phillies and Blue Jays make me very pessimistic. The NBA and WNBA were going to set up shop in the Orlando area and now that region has had a virus outbreak in recent days. I could never see how the NFL expected to play at all because of the nature of the game. In terms of baseball, Manfred and Clark are jackasses and have done a very poor job in trying to get the season off the ground. Why bother playing a 60 game season? It has no meaning. Last year, at the 60 game mark, the Nationals manager was on the verge of getting fired but ended up leading his team to a championship.
I hate to say it, but I'm afraid that professional and college sports may well be doomed for 2020. If a vaccine is discovered in the next few months, maybe we can return to "normal" next year. But, for the short term, the jury is out.
While I have not always been a fan of Gov. Cuomo, he has done an excellent job of keeping a level head in managing the state through the pandemic IMO.[/quote]
The states on the upswing for positive cases are the states with the most science naysayers and conspiracy theorists. The funny part of science is that it bites anyone in the ass that rejects it.
Florida is off the rails. I have seen packed bars and restaurants in South Florida starting the day things opened. It's not just the customers ditching the masks, but even the cooks and wait staff in a few restaurants.
As Redmannorth pointed out, the last few months have not been shining moments for the U.S. and much of the world. Outside of the Vietnam War, I don't recall seeing the nation this divided and mismanaged. Between the virus and the violence, it is hard to be anything but a pessimist. Which is why I would like to see sports come back. The country needs a distraction from all of the madness. The NBA could fold for all I care. Maybe a league as cool as the ABA will rise in its place. I miss baseball. Any game played outdoors in the summer is fine with me. I read somewhere that the nation's pharmacies are out of Zoloft and other anti-depressants. I just would like to hear "play ball" sometime soon.[/quote]
I , too, would like nothing more than to see sports come back. As my wife would tell you, if the game involves a ball, I'm all in. But the outbreaks in the few camps that were opened with a minimal number of players (and now have closed) like the Phillies and Blue Jays make me very pessimistic. The NBA and WNBA were going to set up shop in the Orlando area and now that region has had a virus outbreak in recent days. I could never see how the NFL expected to play at all because of the nature of the game. In terms of baseball, Manfred and Clark are jackasses and have done a very poor job in trying to get the season off the ground. Why bother playing a 60 game season? It has no meaning. Last year, at the 60 game mark, the Nationals manager was on the verge of getting fired but ended up leading his team to a championship.
I hate to say it, but I'm afraid that professional and college sports may well be doomed for 2020. If a vaccine is discovered in the next few months, maybe we can return to "normal" next year. But, for the short term, the jury is out.
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