Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon

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[quote="SJUFAN2" post=391261][quote="Ray Morgan" post=391141]In Florida, the only score that matters is the number of new Covid 19 cases a day. Another 1 day record. Texas and Arizona also fighting for the championship of stupidity. You can't find 3 hotter states, so if this virus survives the scorching heat, it's going to thrive in the fall and winter. Trying to plan a sports season for next week is difficult. Forget about months from now.[/quote]

This is why I think College sports isn't happening this year. Too much risk for colleges from lawsuits from student athletes, and it just takes one or two members of a conference to decide its not worth it and the season is over.

Pro sports might be able to pull it off, especially football since its one game a week, but its not going to be easy.[/quote]

Plans are proceeding at SJU as if there will be a season. It will be decided above individual schools and conferences, and there is no inside information at this point. No one knows for certain, meaning it is very much uncertain.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=392600][quote="Monte" post=392599]If the season is cancelled, I wonder how that would impact the kids' eligibility? For the kids who were planning on being one and done, will this still count as their one even though they didn't play and may not even attend school? Do other kids get another year of eligibility if they don't play this year? How will that impact rosters since many of those kids who would have graduated in 2021, will be around for an extra year? So many questions, so few answers.[/quote]

If a sport isn't played, eligibility will be extended. I think they did that for spring sports this year.[/quote]

Beast spring sports are not basketball. Basketball is unique. I don't see a kid who was planning on being one and done, wanting to wait another year before attempting to join the league. Granted we are not talking about a lot of kids, so they may make an exception. They may also need to expand rosters, or there could be a logjam come fall of 2021. Also will kids be required to attend and pass classes this year? Guess they can't stop them from talking a gap year. Will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=392601]
It will be decided above individual schools and conferences[/quote]

I'm not sure that's necessarily true. If enough big names pull out, it forces the higher-ups into a decision.

I think Duke and Kansas coming out last season and saying they wouldn't be participating forced a lot of hands to move quicker than they would have.
 
[quote="Monte" post=392604]They may also need to expand rosters, or there could be a logjam come fall of 2021.[/quote]

Not sure how many late-bloomers there are every year, but you could probably eliminate the kids making a late high school career impact from college rosters, because they won't get the chance to be noticed.
 
PAC-12 is moving to conference-only fall sports

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[quote="Monte" post=392604][quote="Beast of the East" post=392600][quote="Monte" post=392599]If the season is cancelled, I wonder how that would impact the kids' eligibility? For the kids who were planning on being one and done, will this still count as their one even though they didn't play and may not even attend school? Do other kids get another year of eligibility if they don't play this year? How will that impact rosters since many of those kids who would have graduated in 2021, will be around for an extra year? So many questions, so few answers.[/quote]

If a sport isn't played, eligibility will be extended. I think they did that for spring sports this year.[/quote]

Beast spring sports are not basketball. Basketball is unique. I don't see a kid who was planning on being one and done, wanting to wait another year before attempting to join the league. Granted we are not talking about a lot of kids, so they may make an exception. They may also need to expand rosters, or there could be a logjam come fall of 2021. Also will kids be required to attend and pass classes this year? Guess they can't stop them from talking a gap year. Will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.[/quote]



Monte it will not have any effect on 1 and done players. The rule only states that you have to be one year removed from high school before you are eligible to put your name in the draft.

It will have a big effect on the Class of 21 since current players will be given an extra year of eligibility if there is no season this year. Seniors returning for an extra year of eligibility will limit the scholarships available for the Class of 2021.
 
John Fanta re PAC-12

In tonight’s announcement, the Pac-12 included that “student-athletes who choose not to participate in intercollegiate athletics during the coming academic year because of safety concerns about COVID-19 will continue to have their scholarships honored by their university.”
 
Monte wrote: If the season is cancelled, I wonder how that would impact the kids' eligibility? For the kids who were planning on being one and done, will this still count as their one even though they didn't play and may not even attend school? Do other kids get another year of eligibility if they don't play this year? How will that impact rosters since many of those kids who would have graduated in 2021, will be around for an extra year? So many questions, so few answers.

Hey Monte, great questions. Seems to me, it'd be fair to extend eligibility for seniors and also allow rosters to expand, school-by-school, in sync with seniors staying on to play their last year. That'd enable colleges to continue the recruiting process. But, that's just a guess. These are crazy and unprecedented days.
 
[quote="panther2" post=392634]Monte it will not have any effect on 1 and done players. The rule only states that you have to be one year removed from high school before you are eligible to put your name in the draft.

It will have a big effect on the Class of 21 since current players will be given an extra year of eligibility if there is no season this year. Seniors returning for an extra year of eligibility will limit the scholarships available for the Class of 2021.[/quote]

Also has a huge benefit for kids entering juco this year. No season doesn't mean no classes, so two years from now they'll have an associate's degree, but have only burned one year of D-1 eligibility.
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=392659][quote="panther2" post=392634]Monte it will not have any effect on 1 and done players. The rule only states that you have to be one year removed from high school before you are eligible to put your name in the draft.

It will have a big effect on the Class of 21 since current players will be given an extra year of eligibility if there is no season this year. Seniors returning for an extra year of eligibility will limit the scholarships available for the Class of 2021.[/quote]

Also has a huge benefit for kids entering juco this year. No season doesn't mean no classes, so two years from now they'll have an associate's degree, but have only burned one year of D-1 eligibility.[/quote]

By what fear mongering logic does it make sense to have classes but express concern about player safety in sports.....especially outdoor sports??
These athletes can play with each other and attend classes. Period.
As for the Ivy League......snore.
Finally, assuming some of you fatalistic fans don't have the redmen to discuss this academic year, what will happen to this forum? My guess is that Paul will be inundated with emails to opt into the politics forum.
See you all there. It's a warm welcoming place where we all get along and our bonds just grow stronger every day........until November.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=392687]By what fear mongering logic does it make sense to have classes but express concern about player safety in sports.....especially outdoor sports??[/quote]

Zoom. Pre-taped lectures. A ton of PDFs.

If sports are getting canceled, I expect classes to be online, hence my comment.

The major problem is that if you are in juco, you likely had trouble in school to begin with. If you don't have basketball for a year, how much do you even care to be in school?
 
[quote="panther2" post=392634][quote="Monte" post=392604][quote="Beast of the East" post=392600][quote="Monte" post=392599]If the season is cancelled, I wonder how that would impact the kids' eligibility? For the kids who were planning on being one and done, will this still count as their one even though they didn't play and may not even attend school? Do other kids get another year of eligibility if they don't play this year? How will that impact rosters since many of those kids who would have graduated in 2021, will be around for an extra year? So many questions, so few answers.[/quote]

If a sport isn't played, eligibility will be extended. I think they did that for spring sports this year.[/quote]

Beast spring sports are not basketball. Basketball is unique. I don't see a kid who was planning on being one and done, wanting to wait another year before attempting to join the league. Granted we are not talking about a lot of kids, so they may make an exception. They may also need to expand rosters, or there could be a logjam come fall of 2021. Also will kids be required to attend and pass classes this year? Guess they can't stop them from talking a gap year. Will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.[/quote]



Monte it will not have any effect on 1 and done players. The rule only states that you have to be one year removed from high school before you are eligible to put your name in the draft.

It will have a big effect on the Class of 21 since current players will be given an extra year of eligibility if there is no season this year. Seniors returning for an extra year of eligibility will limit the scholarships available for the Class of 2021.[/quote] so we should leave that extra scholarship open from this year ? :)
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=392601][quote="SJUFAN2" post=391261][quote="Ray Morgan" post=391141]In Florida, the only score that matters is the number of new Covid 19 cases a day. Another 1 day record. Texas and Arizona also fighting for the championship of stupidity. You can't find 3 hotter states, so if this virus survives the scorching heat, it's going to thrive in the fall and winter. Trying to plan a sports season for next week is difficult. Forget about months from now.[/quote]

This is why I think College sports isn't happening this year. Too much risk for colleges from lawsuits from student athletes, and it just takes one or two members of a conference to decide its not worth it and the season is over.

Pro sports might be able to pull it off, especially football since its one game a week, but its not going to be easy.[/quote]

Plans are proceeding at SJU as if there will be a season. It will be decided above individual schools and conferences, and there is no inside information at this point. No one knows for certain, meaning it is very much uncertain.[/quote]

Plans should proceed as if there will be a season. But fans should also be prepared for the idea that there won't be.
 
I'm concerned about the School's athletic department. Will positions be left unfilled? Layoffs are always a possibility.

It's going to be hard for schools to justify the budget for sports without a 2020-2021 season.

Stanford has already begun cuts.
[URL]https://www.sandiegouniontribu...stanford-ivy-league-princeton-rickerson-chang[/URL]

Hopefully the head coaches positions will be ok. But, I wouldn't be surprised if they're asked to accept pay cuts and staffing reduction until sports resume.
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=392689][quote="Class of 72" post=392687]By what fear mongering logic does it make sense to have classes but express concern about player safety in sports.....especially outdoor sports??[/quote]

Zoom. Pre-taped lectures. A ton of PDFs.

If sports are getting canceled, I expect classes to be online, hence my comment.

The major problem is that if you are in juco, you likely had trouble in school to begin with. If you don't have basketball for a year, how much do you even care to be in school?[/quote]

And from what I've seen the virtual classroom is not an environment where marginal to fair students excel.
 
National Junior College Athletic Association will not have fall sports & NJCAA says it plans to play football in spring semester
 
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