BRACKETOLOGY, RPI, SOS

I really can't take RPI and SOS seriously at this point. I think it would come into play if we are on the short side of the bubble (10-8 in conference). Lavin knows that 10-8 is more likely than 11-7, which is why he is starting the lobby for 5 Big East tourney bids. At this point anything could happen, so the next 8 days will be incredibly important. In the small window, anything short of 2-1 will end the season.
 
16-9, 6-6. with four out of six remaining games at MSG. Take care of the home court and we are at 20 wins...with two road games to play with and the BET remaining. Very nice stretch of basketball by the team. 4-0 in February!
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I think the magic # is 22 wins for an at large bid. Definitely not impossible to do, but they still have a lot of work to do in order to go 6-1.
 
@ESPNLunardi: 8 teams for 3 spots (or four, if MichSt wins Big Ten): Dayton, Mizzou, Prov, Richmond, St. Joe's, SoMiss, St. John's, WVU. #MockSelection
 
@ESPNLunardi: FIRST FOUR OUT: St. John's, Richmond, Dayton, Southern Miss (will be First Five Out, including St. Joe's, if Illinois upsets Michigan St).
 
Going off of Lunardi's first four out:


Richmond - plays Fordham tomorrow, a win by the rams would not only boost our RPI, but help knock Richmond off the bubble for the time being. Richmond has an opportunity for a big win at home against VCU later this year, and something to note, Richmond and Dayton (both teams listed) play each other on the last game of the regular season, so someone has to lose.

Southern Miss - they play a good Middle Tennessee team, who I wonder where they are on the bubble? Anyways, they play saturday. Southern miss is 21-4 this season, with zero good wins to speak of. Their best win might be DePaul, which is saying something. Only game they played that was significant was when they played Louisville, and the cardinals beat Southern Miss 69-38. Wow.


Dayton - don't play until Wednesday, where they play at home against La Salle. Wins against Gonzaga, California, and Ole Miss are keeping them alive on the bubble, cause otherwise they are a lackluster 5-5 in conference, only beating bottom half teams other than George Washington. Dayton plays at St Joes later this year, and also play at St. Louis and at home against umass and as said earlier home against Richmond. So Dayton has four or five games that should decide their fate in the NCAA.


I have a question, why would St joes move into the first five out if Illinois upset michigan state?
 
Going off of Lunardi's first four out:


Richmond - plays Fordham tomorrow, a win by the rams would not only boost our RPI, but help knock Richmond off the bubble for the time being. Richmond has an opportunity for a big win at home against VCU later this year, and something to note, Richmond and Dayton (both teams listed) play each other on the last game of the regular season, so someone has to lose.

Southern Miss - they play a good Middle Tennessee team, who I wonder where they are on the bubble? Anyways, they play saturday. Southern miss is 21-4 this season, with zero good wins to speak of. Their best win might be DePaul, which is saying something. Only game they played that was significant was when they played Louisville, and the cardinals beat Southern Miss 69-38. Wow.


Dayton - don't play until Wednesday, where they play at home against La Salle. Wins against Gonzaga, California, and Ole Miss are keeping them alive on the bubble, cause otherwise they are a lackluster 5-5 in conference, only beating bottom half teams other than George Washington. Dayton plays at St Joes later this year, and also play at St. Louis and at home against umass and as said earlier home against Richmond. So Dayton has four or five games that should decide their fate in the NCAA.


I have a question, why would St joes move into the first five out if Illinois upset michigan state?
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Because it would make Mich State an at large team therefore bubble gets burst.
 
Going off of Lunardi's first four out:


Richmond - plays Fordham tomorrow, a win by the rams would not only boost our RPI, but help knock Richmond off the bubble for the time being. Richmond has an opportunity for a big win at home against VCU later this year, and something to note, Richmond and Dayton (both teams listed) play each other on the last game of the regular season, so someone has to lose.

Southern Miss - they play a good Middle Tennessee team, who I wonder where they are on the bubble? Anyways, they play saturday. Southern miss is 21-4 this season, with zero good wins to speak of. Their best win might be DePaul, which is saying something. Only game they played that was significant was when they played Louisville, and the cardinals beat Southern Miss 69-38. Wow.


Dayton - don't play until Wednesday, where they play at home against La Salle. Wins against Gonzaga, California, and Ole Miss are keeping them alive on the bubble, cause otherwise they are a lackluster 5-5 in conference, only beating bottom half teams other than George Washington. Dayton plays at St Joes later this year, and also play at St. Louis and at home against umass and as said earlier home against Richmond. So Dayton has four or five games that should decide their fate in the NCAA.


I have a question, why would St joes move into the first five out if Illinois upset michigan state?
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Because it would make Mich State an at large team therefore bubble gets burst.
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Ok, I understand now, thank you.
 
Going off of Lunardi's first four out:


Richmond - plays Fordham tomorrow, a win by the rams would not only boost our RPI, but help knock Richmond off the bubble for the time being. Richmond has an opportunity for a big win at home against VCU later this year, and something to note, Richmond and Dayton (both teams listed) play each other on the last game of the regular season, so someone has to lose.

Southern Miss - they play a good Middle Tennessee team, who I wonder where they are on the bubble? Anyways, they play saturday. Southern miss is 21-4 this season, with zero good wins to speak of. Their best win might be DePaul, which is saying something. Only game they played that was significant was when they played Louisville, and the cardinals beat Southern Miss 69-38. Wow.


Dayton - don't play until Wednesday, where they play at home against La Salle. Wins against Gonzaga, California, and Ole Miss are keeping them alive on the bubble, cause otherwise they are a lackluster 5-5 in conference, only beating bottom half teams other than George Washington. Dayton plays at St Joes later this year, and also play at St. Louis and at home against umass and as said earlier home against Richmond. So Dayton has four or five games that should decide their fate in the NCAA.


I have a question, why would St joes move into the first five out if Illinois upset michigan state?
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Because it would make Mich State an at large team therefore bubble gets burst.
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Ok, I understand now, thank you.
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That's the biggest wildcard. How crazy Championship week is could wreck havoc on bids.
 
Interesting, obviously alot can change but as of now they have two .500 teams in Georgetown & Providence in the tourney and us at .500 as the first team out. Maybe its not as tough to get in this year as a big east team as many people thought
 
Keep digging ourselves out that hole one game at a time;

@ESPNLunardi: Yes. “@SDoreson: @ESPNLunardi St. Johns getting close to a bubble team?”
 
Going off of Lunardi's first four out:


Richmond - plays Fordham tomorrow, a win by the rams would not only boost our RPI, but help knock Richmond off the bubble for the time being. Richmond has an opportunity for a big win at home against VCU later this year, and something to note, Richmond and Dayton (both teams listed) play each other on the last game of the regular season, so someone has to lose.

Southern Miss - they play a good Middle Tennessee team, who I wonder where they are on the bubble? Anyways, they play saturday. Southern miss is 21-4 this season, with zero good wins to speak of. Their best win might be DePaul, which is saying something. Only game they played that was significant was when they played Louisville, and the cardinals beat Southern Miss 69-38. Wow.


Dayton - don't play until Wednesday, where they play at home against La Salle. Wins against Gonzaga, California, and Ole Miss are keeping them alive on the bubble, cause otherwise they are a lackluster 5-5 in conference, only beating bottom half teams other than George Washington. Dayton plays at St Joes later this year, and also play at St. Louis and at home against umass and as said earlier home against Richmond. So Dayton has four or five games that should decide their fate in the NCAA.


I have a question, why would St joes move into the first five out if Illinois upset michigan state?
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Southern Miss lost by 24 last night to 15-9 UAB. That is a disgusting loss. BYU also lost to Pacific...they have another two losses on the schedule and won't make it with 12 total losses out of the WCC.

Don't look now, but Penn State has won 4/6 in the Big Ten by beating Indiana in Bloomington on Wednesday. They are hoe against Iowa. A win there would be huge for us and give Iowa its 7th loss with a tough schedule remaining. If Penn State can win three more games they can get that RPI of 105 (77 BPI) inside 100 and that "bad loss" gets so much better.
 
Going off of Lunardi's first four out:


Richmond - plays Fordham tomorrow, a win by the rams would not only boost our RPI, but help knock Richmond off the bubble for the time being. Richmond has an opportunity for a big win at home against VCU later this year, and something to note, Richmond and Dayton (both teams listed) play each other on the last game of the regular season, so someone has to lose.

Southern Miss - they play a good Middle Tennessee team, who I wonder where they are on the bubble? Anyways, they play saturday. Southern miss is 21-4 this season, with zero good wins to speak of. Their best win might be DePaul, which is saying something. Only game they played that was significant was when they played Louisville, and the cardinals beat Southern Miss 69-38. Wow.


Dayton - don't play until Wednesday, where they play at home against La Salle. Wins against Gonzaga, California, and Ole Miss are keeping them alive on the bubble, cause otherwise they are a lackluster 5-5 in conference, only beating bottom half teams other than George Washington. Dayton plays at St Joes later this year, and also play at St. Louis and at home against umass and as said earlier home against Richmond. So Dayton has four or five games that should decide their fate in the NCAA.


I have a question, why would St joes move into the first five out if Illinois upset michigan state?
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Southern Miss lost by 24 last night to 15-9 UAB. That is a disgusting loss. BYU also lost to Pacific...they have another two losses on the schedule and won't make it with 12 total losses out of the WCC.

Don't look now, but Penn State has won 4/6 in the Big Ten by beating Indiana in Bloomington on Wednesday. They are hoe against Iowa. A win there would be huge for us and give Iowa its 7th loss with a tough schedule remaining. If Penn State can win three more games they can get that RPI of 105 (77 BPI) inside 100 and that "bad loss" gets so much better.
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Penn State is 4 and 8 in Big Ten and one game over .500 overall. What am I missing?
 
That they've won 4 of 6? Not asking them to win the conf. Just get their RPI under 100.
 
There is absolutely no point in caring what BYU does or Dayton or whoever. The other bubble teams have no bearing on what goes down Sunday. Our resume is all that matters. On top of that, who cares what our past opponents have done? Sure that may slightly improve RPI but again that means nothing if we lose on Sunday. Worry about what you can control not BYu vs Pacific and Penn State's performance down the stretch.
 
There is absolutely no point in caring what BYU does or Dayton or whoever. The other bubble teams have no bearing on what goes down Sunday. Our resume is all that matters. On top of that, who cares what our past opponents have done? Sure that may slightly improve RPI but again that means nothing if we lose on Sunday. Worry about what you can control not BYu vs Pacific and Penn State's performance down the stretch.
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Thanks Dr. Obvious. But this thread happens to be about STJ's position in bracketology and those items you listed do matter, unless of course STJ wins out. Though they still could affect seeding. I don't think, well I hope, no one is sitting around worrying about this. Just throwing out scenarios in our spare time. I agree the team should primarily be focused on winning Sunday, and we can discuss that too . . . on the GTown game thread.
 
Lunardi just interviewed during St. Joe's - LaSalle game...mentioned Johnnies highlighting fact that they are on rise but .500 conf record won't get it done in the new Big East
 
If we went .500 in conference and won two gms in big east tournament i have a hard time believing we won't be dancing.

The Big East tournament is going to be the difference maker.
 
If we went .500 in conference and won two gms in big east tournament i have a hard time believing we won't be dancing.

The Big East tournament is going to be the difference maker.
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No way, if we finish 8-8 in conference we would have to win BE tourney
 
Lunardi just interviewed during St. Joe's - LaSalle game...mentioned Johnnies highlighting fact that they are on rise but .500 conf record won't get it done in the new Big East
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He has 5 teams from The Big East getting in.

We are among the first 4 out.

Selection Sunday just a month from tomorrow.

Mike Crispino gave St. John's a shout out and mentioned their great play as of late.
 
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