Big East & UConn

The conference will probably get their's when Texas & Oklahoma leave for greener pastures not too far down the road.
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They'd already be in the Pac 12 if Texas didn't have issues with TV rights. I prefer to see them there, but now I won't be shocked to see them end up in the SEC.

I'd prefer to see the SEC try to expand their footprint by pilfering Va. Tech and N.C. State. Let the ACC take some hits.
 
The conference will probably get their's when Texas & Oklahoma leave for greener pastures not too far down the road.
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They'd already be in the Pac 12 if Texas didn't have issues with TV rights. I prefer to see them there, but now I won't be shocked to see them end up in the SEC.

I'd prefer to see the SEC try to expand their footprint by pilfering Va. Tech and N.C. State. Let the ACC take some hits.
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I don't see NC State leaving the ACC. FSU on the other hand is a different story.

Pac 12, Big 10 and SEC would have all taken Texas in a heartbeat. Texas TV deal is an issue as you pointed out.
 
The ACC took a "hit" when UMaryland left for the B10. There were also unconfirmed reports at the time Maryland left that UVA and Georgia Tech were also considering a move to the B10 which speculation ended when the ACC members executed a "Grant of Media Rights" to the ACC ("GOR") whereby a departing school will not own its TV, radio, and media rights until the agreement expires in 2026.

Many commentators believe that because of the GOR there will not be another major conference shake up until 2026 ,at the earliest, which makes Yukon's plight more desperate.
 
The ACC took a "hit" when UMaryland left for the B10. There were also unconfirmed reports at the time Maryland left that UVA and Georgia Tech were also considering a move to the B10 which speculation ended when the ACC members executed a "Grant of Media Rights" to the ACC ("GOR") whereby a departing school will not own its TV, radio, and media rights until the agreement expires in 2026.

Many commentators believe that because of the GOR there will not be another major conference shake up until 2026 ,at the earliest, which makes Yukon's plight more desperate.
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I tend to agree. The Big 12 issue will likely be Uconn's final chance for Power 5 conference membership but I am not looking forward to having them back in the Big East for selfish reasons. Besides the obvious direct competition for market and recruits in men's basketball, the Uconn women would perennially dominate the women's game. Being very familiar with the women's program I can tell you it would be very much like having Kentucky join the Big East in men's basketball. Their soccer program has also surpassed ours as Dr. Maser can't seem to attract top tier American kids any longer. What will be will be but I would have preferred Dayton and St. Louis or Richmond.
 
Maybe b12 wants a bottom feeder in football to improve conf records for other teams. Also gives northeast market. Similar to b10 and rutgers.

I still doubt they get in but surprised uconn made it this far
 
Maybe b12 wants a bottom feeder in football to improve conf records for other teams. Also gives northeast market. Similar to b10 and rutgers.

I still doubt they get in but surprised uconn made it this far
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The Big 12 already have a perennial bottom feeder in Kansas. Espn and Fox will not want to pay for another bottom feeder Imo. KState and Iowa State also bring down the ratings and that is why BYU is a prime target.
 
The ACC took a "hit" when UMaryland left for the B10. There were also unconfirmed reports at the time Maryland left that UVA and Georgia Tech were also considering a move to the B10 which speculation ended when the ACC members executed a "Grant of Media Rights" to the ACC ("GOR") whereby a departing school will not own its TV, radio, and media rights until the agreement expires in 2026.

Many commentators believe that because of the GOR there will not be another major conference shake up until 2026 ,at the earliest, which makes Yukon's plight more desperate.
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I tend to agree. The Big 12 issue will likely be Uconn's final chance for Power 5 conference membership but I am not looking forward to having them back in the Big East for selfish reasons. Besides the obvious direct competition for market and recruits in men's basketball, the Uconn women would perennially dominate the women's game. Being very familiar with the women's program I can tell you it would be very much like having Kentucky join the Big East in men's basketball. Their soccer program has also surpassed ours as Dr. Maser can't seem to attract top tier American kids any longer. What will be will be but I would have preferred Dayton and St. Louis or Richmond.
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Maybe I had too much wine with my dinner tonight, but, '72, are you saying it's in the Big East's -- and more specifically, SJU's -- interest to compete against lesser powers other than UConn for recruits in men's or women's basketball or soccer or whatever? Sounds like a mid-majors mentality: let's compete in a conference where we have a better chance of being successful.
 
The conference will probably get their's when Texas & Oklahoma leave for greener pastures not too far down the road.
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They'd already be in the Pac 12 if Texas didn't have issues with TV rights. I prefer to see them there, but now I won't be shocked to see them end up in the SEC.

I'd prefer to see the SEC try to expand their footprint by pilfering Va. Tech and N.C. State. Let the ACC take some hits.
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Don't think losing Virginia Tech would be much of a hit for the ACC.
 
UCONN beat the Black Bears of Maine 24-21 today. Enjoy them Big 12.
 
The conference will probably get their's when Texas & Oklahoma leave for greener pastures not too far down the road.
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They'd already be in the Pac 12 if Texas didn't have issues with TV rights. I prefer to see them there, but now I won't be shocked to see them end up in the SEC.

I'd prefer to see the SEC try to expand their footprint by pilfering Va. Tech and N.C. State. Let the ACC take some hits.
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Don't think losing Virginia Tech would be much of a hit for the ACC.
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Losing teams would be a hit for any conference, and the SEC and the Big 10 probably have their eyes on some ACC teams.
 
UCONN beat the Black Bears of Maine 24-21 today. Enjoy them Big 12.
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Hey man, that's a huge win for UConn beating the Cal Bears from the Pac 10. That will do wonders for them.

Oh wait, that was the Maine Black Bears from the FCS Colonial Conference that they beat.

Nevermind.
 
The ACC took a "hit" when UMaryland left for the B10. There were also unconfirmed reports at the time Maryland left that UVA and Georgia Tech were also considering a move to the B10 which speculation ended when the ACC members executed a "Grant of Media Rights" to the ACC ("GOR") whereby a departing school will not own its TV, radio, and media rights until the agreement expires in 2026.

Many commentators believe that because of the GOR there will not be another major conference shake up until 2026 ,at the earliest, which makes Yukon's plight more desperate.
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I tend to agree. The Big 12 issue will likely be Uconn's final chance for Power 5 conference membership but I am not looking forward to having them back in the Big East for selfish reasons. Besides the obvious direct competition for market and recruits in men's basketball, the Uconn women would perennially dominate the women's game. Being very familiar with the women's program I can tell you it would be very much like having Kentucky join the Big East in men's basketball. Their soccer program has also surpassed ours as Dr. Maser can't seem to attract top tier American kids any longer. What will be will be but I would have preferred Dayton and St. Louis or Richmond.
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Maybe I had too much wine with my dinner tonight, but, '72, are you saying it's in the Big East's -- and more specifically, SJU's -- interest to compete against lesser powers other than UConn for recruits in men's or women's basketball or soccer or whatever? Sounds like a mid-majors mentality: let's compete in a conference where we have a better chance of being successful.
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I tried to be honest and said my reasons were selfish but no, I did not mean to infer against lesser basketball powers but "different" basketball powers. Dayton would be a natural fit. We would be the "lesser" opponent compared to them since we have sucked and they have produced 20+ game winning seasons almost every year. They incubate outstanding coaches. They play in a 13,000 seat home arena. The list goes on but it further opens up the fertile Midwest recruiting market. St. Louis would also be a natural fit with a basketball history more similar to ours. Uconn has great men's and women's basketball programs but they sit in the Seton Hall, St. John's and Providence corridor. They are a State school which puts the three aforementioned at a budgetary disadvantage. While having them back in the Big East would raise the conference basketball profile, it does little for the current three schools in their region. Had the school been Notre Dame I would have been more amenable. I need not remind anyone here that we at St. John's have been the lesser power in both the old and new Big East rarely finishing in the top half of the conference. Mullin has proven he can recruit with anyone in the Big East. Once he proves he can coach against the best coaches in the country, I will feel more comfortable with the Uconn possibility.
 
Sitting here watching football and just saw Houston kick a FG to head into the half with the lead over Oklahoma. I can't imagine UConn ever being in that position, and that's why they are probably not getting in to the Big 12, at least not this time around.
 
Sitting here watching football and just saw Houston kick a FG to head into the half with the lead over Oklahoma. I can't imagine UConn ever being in that position, and that's why they are probably not getting in to the Big 12, at least not this time around.
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On another note,it caused me to be a couple of minutes late for an appointment but I was real happy to see GTech drive down the field and score a TD in the last few minutes to beat BC. Love to see that former BE school lose.

Some real good games on today.
 
"3hAssociated Press
No. 15 Houston looks Big 12-ready in 33-23 victory over OU"
71,000 in attendance. Texas schools want Houston in to maintain Texan influence over Big 12.
 
Wouldn't UCONN become more of a target for the ACC if the ACC gets raided by another "power 5 conference" and lose a few football teams?
 
Wouldn't UCONN become more of a target for the ACC if the ACC gets raided by another "power 5 conference" and lose a few football teams?
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One would think
 
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