It Really Is Harder To Beat A Team The Third Time In Men’s College Basketball
The third time often is the charm for some teams.
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So I was right by just using common sense. Not surprising I got an argument from MR.It Really Is Harder To Beat A Team The Third Time In Men’s College Basketball
The third time often is the charm for some teams.
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But when two evenly matched teams meet for a third time in the same season, their previous results matter. When the teams split their first two games, the better team won 57.3 percent of the time; when the better team lost the previous two meetings, that team avenged those defeats at a 56.7 percent clip. But when the better team won both previous matchups, the third was a true toss-up — the better teams won only about 49.3 percent of the time.So I was right by just using common sense. Not surprising I got an argument from MR.
So if Im reading this right, its not harder to beat a team the 3rd time when the are evenly matched. Its a complete toss up.
Correct. I think we're probably evenly matched or close enough where it is a 50-50 game.
Have to wonder if we really would have lost both times if we had Pitino instead of Masiello plus Dingle in game 1, and if we were at MSG or Carnesecca vs UBS in game
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I like our chances at MSG for game 3
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I like our chances at MSG for game 3
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So much for common sense. Hahahaha.
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They do overall win 77% of the time. Listen, i dont make up the stats. I just report them.
Dont you find it interesting that a stat everyone regurgitates every March isnt true?
1. Yes, there is little overall truth to the "it's hard to beat a team three times" trope.
2. However, it depends on what teams you're talking about. SJU beat DePaul twice; it would not be hard for SJU to beat DePaul a third time (or a fourth or a fifth) because of the quality differential between the two teams. OTOH if you have two teams that are relatively evenly matched, it is more like the coin toss theory: each time you toss the coin there is a 50% chance it will be heads. If you look at them independently, it's 50% each time. But if you look at it as a string of events, the odds of it being heads three times in a row is low.
You can make a good argument that SHU is a better team based on better record vs common opponents and more "quality wins." But they aren't MUCH better, I would mostly throw out the results of the game at SHU, and it remains my opinion that SJU has better talent and depth when properly deployed.
Bottom line is I don't think the results of the prior matchup are all that important in this game: it's a standalone proposition, I think it's pretty much a coin toss, and I expect it to be a rock fight. To me Ledlum is a big key to this game - he's the only player on our roster who I think could play for Holloway based on physical and mental toughness. The rest of the roster is going to need to step up in that department if they want to win.
You skewered the argument I made but whatever, have no inclination to take this any further it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
What’s the percentage of winning the third game if you lost the first two and in the first game on the road you had your Hall of Fame coach and your starting 2Guard out and you played the second game on basically a neutral court? Statistics are like string bikinis, they show a lot but they don’t show everything.
But if a team beat a team twice so their winning % was 100% of the time technically anything less than that means it’s harder to beat a team the third time
Take solace in the fact you got skewered by the
of skewerers.Funny, I was genuinely looking for some stuff on yesterday’s game and stumbled into something called casual Hoya. Check out some of the comments on here. One guy wants Cooley fired. Sounds a lot like the last 30 years here on Red.Fans. Amazing how losing has an effect on a fan base. We are not alone. Hopefully this is behind us.
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RICK ROLLED: Georgetown Gets Close Before St. John’s Finishes Off Hoyas, 86-78
Johnnies beat Hoyas from the line and in the paint
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You can't ask these fan bases to have patience, when they've been down for so long.Funny, I was genuinely looking for some stuff on yesterday’s game and stumbled into something called casual Hoya. Check out some of the comments on here. One guy wants Cooley fired. Sounds a lot like the last 30 years here on Red.Fans. Amazing how losing has an effect on a fan base. We are not alone. Hopefully this is behind us.
RICK ROLLED: Georgetown Gets Close Before St. John’s Finishes Off Hoyas, 86-78
Johnnies beat Hoyas from the line and in the paint
Whoever is going to become Depaul's coach, is going to be in for a rough ride, IMO.
Not only do people have to win now but you are worrying about 5 years from now. Now you have me worrying about 5 years from now. All the worrying starts somewhere
I have three words to dispute this--DePaul, Detroit Mercy.It Really Is Harder To Beat A Team The Third Time In Men’s College Basketball
The third time often is the charm for some teams.
My only thought here is you are 100% right on DePaul…who wants that job?
does DePaul have a base?... Even during our "Down years" (so many to choose from)- feel like there was always 7-8k at MSG at its lowest,..
If a Solid "name" coach (Moser/Hurley) takes the Job... feel like they have a leash of atleast 4 years to get to a .500 record... right?
Even Bobby Gonzalez isn’t crazy enough to want that job