Attendance

Hardy said:
Great post.

Would also help to just have the Lax team at every game. Made a big difference and a constant presence like that would really help

My section was better than I've heard it in years, but seemed to have fewer providence fans than others
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We shouldn't stop with just the current lax team, we should create an entire ex-lax section also.
 
ADORAZ said:
Yeah as mentioned I wasn't at the game and it sounded as I expected on TV, though some of you in attendance expected it be to louder which is fair since what you heard is different from what I did. These older paying fans are still very beneficial to our fan base, but my main point was any specifics about individuals should be off-limits.

I think out of all the BE teams we'll face at MSG, PC is the least exciting. No ranking (Creighton, others), not a National Champion (UConn, Nova, Marq, GTown), generally a civil fanbase, etc. That combined with it being on a weeknight, I wasn't expecting too loud of a crowd. I'd be very surprised if people aren't more excited for the rest of our MSG games. It'll happen.
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Attendance is not the issue. Being loud and cheering on the Red is the issue. When providence went on their runs there was LOUD Lets go Friars chants. There was no lets go johnnies or defense chants from our fans.

Our fans don't even participate in wearing a free shirt when it's a themed white out night on campus.
 
GardenCity62 said:
I realize that most other big east schools dwarf SJU when it comes to attendance but nobody mentions the cost of the tickets. That may be a big part of the reason.
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Creighton tickets, in a much less expensive arena, in a coty with a tiny fraction of the population, and with average salary compensation far lower, is far more expensive for tickets and they rank #6 in mcaa attendance. They certainly have built a great following in a football area.

Yes its building a winning tradition but their obstacles are far greater than ours in my opinion
 
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I still say Carneseca is a much better home court advantage. That said it has many negatives. The problem is so many schools have a lot of alumni in NYC so any game at MSG draws a ton of their fans negating our home court advantage. I guess the only remedy is to keep winning.
 
Attendance hasn’t been bad. It just isn’t gonna draw 20k every game when we have stunk for several decades. Should have spent less money on shitty coaches and terrible broken contracts and more on making the right hire and building our brand. The mom n pop stuff is definitely an issue we seem to be slowly moving past but it isn’t gonna draw major crowds right away. We are breaking 5 digits at most games which is a good start. In the future also schedule teams that draw like Duke, Kansas and Cuse. Those are automatic packed houses along with the usual UConn contingent.
 
MCNPA said:
Attendance hasn’t been bad. It just isn’t gonna draw 20k every game when we have stunk for several decades. Should have spent less money on shitty coaches and terrible broken contracts and more on making the right hire and building our brand. The mom n pop stuff is definitely an issue we seem to be slowly moving past but it isn’t gonna draw major crowds right away. We are breaking 5 digits at most games which is a good start. In the future also schedule teams that draw like Duke, Kansas and Cuse. Those are automatic packed houses along with the usual UConn contingent.
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Of course if we play UCONN or Duke at MSG we will have good attendance. The problem is half the fans are from the opposing team . It is like playing a neutral game instead of a home game.
 
mjmaherjr said:
when you hear the other fans getting way louder than us early in the game people need to take that as an insult and get a lot louder sooner. My voice was shot when I got home. Plug for Manuka Honey btw
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Right with ya…too many folks who seem to feel “to cool” to chant “defense” or to drown out the opposing fans…back in the day ”Here we go Redmen, Here we go” would raise that roof at Alumni Hall (now the Carn)

plus as much as I like our two on-court personalities, we really need to focus on engaging the crowd not just entertaining…at one point, during a time out with PC threatening, the band is playing some non distinct tune that largely goes unnoticed.

Need to establish some traditions like getting the crowd singing some song that spans generations (Sweet Johnnyline)…yeah, wacky idea, but I’m 67, have been a season ticket holder since ‘74 and am still as into it now as when I started.
 
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redman#13 said:
Attendance is not the issue. Being loud and cheering on the Red is the issue. When providence went on their runs there was LOUD Lets go Friars chants. There was no lets go johnnies or defense chants from our fans.

Our fans don't even participate in wearing a free shirt when it's a themed white out night on campus.
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I agree attendance is not an issue for now. This same game drew 10.2K fans last year- but that was on a Saturday and PC was ranked. 11.8K on a weekday is a nice improvement and about as expected.

Chants by opposing teams aren't a big deal, the Johnnies even had some at Villanova last week. Would like to see us attempt to shut them down but I wasn't there so not sure if that happened (I didn't hear any PC chants on TV). Chants by St. John's fans have been pretty poor for as long as I've been a fan (early Lavin years). Almost no originality or traditions, but now's the perfect time to start some. It's really tough for that to happen without becoming a winner and St. John's is just now starting to become one.

I know people clown those chant sheets some schools provide their fans/students, but for a school like St. John's I wouldn't mind a jumpstart. Have to start somewhere.

PC is the most likable BE opponent we'll play there, and IMO it's tougher for the average fan to get hyped about a team we're supposed to beat. I still believe fans/crowds will be much bigger and more energized for the rest of our MSG games this season, but we'll see.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Creighton tickets, in a much less expensive arena, in a coty with a tiny fraction of the population, and with average salary compensation far lower, is far more expensive for tickets and they rank #6 in mcaa attendance. They certainly have built a great following in a football area.

Yes its building a winning tradition but their obstacles are far greater than ours in my opinion
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Beasts of the East said:
Creighton tickets, in a much less expensive arena, in a coty with a tiny fraction of the population, and with average salary compensation far lower, is far more expensive for tickets and they rank #6 in mcaa attendance. They certainly have built a great following in a football area.

Yes its building a winning tradition but their obstacles are far greater than ours in my opinion
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Where are you getting your numbers? When I look at Ticketmaster Creighton seems to be selling their tickets for a lowest price of $23. That isn’t more than SJU at MSG it’s close to three times less than Providence and four times less than the upcoming Marquette game.
 
IDRAFT said:
Where are you getting your numbers? When I look at Ticketmaster Creighton seems to be selling their tickets for a lowest price of $23. That isn’t more than SJU at MSG it’s close to three times less than Providence and four times less than the upcoming Marquette game.
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IDRAFT said:
Where are you getting your numbers? When I look at Ticketmaster Creighton seems to be selling their tickets for a lowest price of $23. That isn’t more than SJU at MSG it’s close to three times less than Providence and four times less than the upcoming Marquette game.
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Resale is only $6 also
 
IDRAFT said:
Where are you getting your numbers? When I look at Ticketmaster Creighton seems to be selling their tickets for a lowest price of $23. That isn’t more than SJU at MSG it’s close to three times less than Providence and four times less than the upcoming Marquette game.
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On StubHub there's a LOT of Creighton tickets for $3 lol. Never see that for St. John's MSG games.
 
Section3 said:
Right with ya…too many folks who seem to feel “to cool” to chant “defense” or to drown out the opposing fans…back in the day ”Here we go Redmen, Here we go” would raise that roof at Alumni Hall (now the Carn)

plus as much as I like our two on-court personalities, we really need to focus on engaging the crowd not just entertaining…at one point, during a time out with PC threatening, the band is playing some non distinct tune that largely goes unnoticed.

Need to establish some traditions like getting the crowd singing some song that spans generations (Sweet Johnnyline)…yeah, wacky idea, but I’m 67, have been a season ticket holder since ‘74 and am still as into it now as when I started.
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Riders on the Storm - Jim Morrison
Storm Front - Billy Joel

Wouldnt it be cool if we played that and sju got billy joel as a surprise guest to walk out. Kenny D. Arrange it? Blow the roof. Off the Garden
 
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