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[SJUalum98]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

 

[Mean Gene]

Marquette @ Providence Tuesday night?
Who to root for?

Big East Standings
TEAM CONF OVERALL
Villanova 14-2 26-3
Creighton 13-3 23-5
Xavier 10-6 20-9
Providence 9-7 19-10
Marquette 9-7 17-12
St. John's 9-8 19-11
Georgetown 7-9 16-12
Seton Hall 5-11 14-15
DePaul 3-14 11-19
Butler 2-14 12-16

You want Marquette to win that game and then you Creighton to beat Providence in the last conference game and us to beat Marquette.

 

[Andrew]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

 

[MJDinkins]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

Irrelevant to the initial conversation.

 

[gman]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

The issue is that SHU had to make to concessions to numerous players to get kids on campus (how many assistants do they have again?) and that not everyone will be happy. This year they haven't been able to control the different personalities and desires for self over team accomplishments and people are saying this will only get worse next year.

 

[Andrew]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

Irrelevant to the initial conversation.

I don't agree. I think Carrington is very good. We can revisit in a couple of years.

 

[MJDinkins]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

Irrelevant to the initial conversation.

I don't agree. I think Carrington is very good. We can revisit in a couple of years.

Okay. That's cool!

 

[Moose]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

Irrelevant to the initial conversation.

I don't agree. I think Carrington is very good. We can revisit in a couple of years.

If he is very good why is he going to Seton Hall?

 

[austour]

Gotta root for Marquette, especially after their loss to Nova today. We still have to beat them at their place. Our fate is in our hands. As for Providence, we need them to lose their last two. We have no say in what happens to them. We can only scoreboard watch.

Agree

 

[Andrew]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

Irrelevant to the initial conversation.

I don't agree. I think Carrington is very good. We can revisit in a couple of years.

If he is very good why is he going to Seton Hall?

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

 

[Moose]

Am I missing something with the Whitehead thing? I've never heard of him being a chemistry killer or anything. By all accounts seems like a good kid. I dont think by himself he'll turn Seton Hall to a NCAA team but I dont see him turning them into a circus. Morton could be bad news how ever

By all reports, he is a good kid...but fact is when he made his selection he justified it based on fact that Lavin wouldn't commit to him being "the man"...On a junior/senior laden team w/a top 25 soph guard (as good or better than him) it was a bit unrealistic on his part - especially since his people reportedly reinitiated discussions with Lavin.

That said, he has a better chance of being the man at SHU as they will be losing their core players. So, if that was his goal he made a good decision. I am not expert on him but hard to believe that, as a freshmen, he is going to turn them into winners.

Ii think some people are sleeping on Carrington. He put up 42 on CTK the other today. They will make a nice back court. I have to agree, probably not good enough to make the NCAA's.

Carrington is not that good.

Plenty of average D1 college players put up a bunch of points in high school.

Neither is Phil Greene but he starts for us.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing, lol?

I think Carrington has a lot more upside than Greene.

Irrelevant to the initial conversation.

I don't agree. I think Carrington is very good. We can revisit in a couple of years.

If he is very good why is he going to Seton Hall?

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

 

[MJDinkins]

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

To add, it was (again) irrelevant.

 

[Andrew]

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

To add, it was (again) irrelevant.

I am sure if St. John's had signed Carrington, you would be tooting his exploits. Instead, we can look forward to Balamou playing significant minutes in two years.

 

[MJDinkins]

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

To add, it was (again) irrelevant.

I am sure if St. John's had signed Carrington, you would be tooting his exploits. Instead, we can look forward to Balamou playing significant minutes in two years.

You wanna bet? Go read what I said about Carrington, and come check back with me.

 

[Andrew]

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

To add, it was (again) irrelevant.

I am sure if St. John's had signed Carrington, you would be tooting his exploits. Instead, we can look forward to Balamou playing significant minutes in two years.

You wanna bet? Go read what I said about Carrington, and come check back with me.

What did you write about Balamou when we signed him? What do you expect Balamou's best offensive season will be?

 

[fordham96]

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

To add, it was (again) irrelevant.

I am sure if St. John's had signed Carrington, you would be tooting his exploits. Instead, we can look forward to Balamou playing significant minutes in two years.

No we wouldn't. There were plenty of people who were more then happy to not have him sign with SJU.

And look at his recruitment schools like Cincy and UCONN and SJU all basically dropped him.

 

[MJDinkins]

What's wrong with Seton Hall? We beat them twice by one point each.

A win by 1 or 50 counts the same last time I checked.

To add, it was (again) irrelevant.

I am sure if St. John's had signed Carrington, you would be tooting his exploits. Instead, we can look forward to Balamou playing significant minutes in two years.

You wanna bet? Go read what I said about Carrington, and come check back with me.

What did you write about Balamou when we signed him? What do you expect Balamou's best offensive season will be?

Here you go with another irrelevant argument. Stick to the topic, if you're capable of doing so. Stop moving the basketball goals.

 

[paultzman]

@AdamZagoria: Bryce Cotton of Providence is the Big East Player of the Week and Jalen Reynolds of Xavier is ROW

@JohnFanta13: Big East Honor Roll: Doug McDermott, DePaul's Brandon Young, St. John's D'Angelo Harrison, Nova's Darrun Hilliard, Xavier's Semaj Christon

 

[SJU61982]

I guess, if you are Creighton, anything short of McDermitt going down falls into the "it won't kill us" category, but I'm sure they would still like to have all of their pieces for the stretch run:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...hton-freshman-isaiah-zierden-out-indefinitely

 

[paultzman]

Saw early line for Tuesday game. Providence is a four point favorite over M'Q.