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A couple of things about yukon in my opinion. recruiting has been consistently good for yukon and will remain so as long as there is still plenty of money to buy recruits but if I was an investor/tax payer the returns haven't been nearly as impressive last couple of seasons. And isn't this kid recruiting over their top pickup from last year?

But last few years the recruiting has been "good" not at the level of Duke, KY etc. Considering they're recent history, it really should be. The high class ranking this year is because of quantity but none of the commits are elite players. Ollie one of the first names on NBA lists and the conference issue has to be why they are getting very good players, not elite players. Losing to lower name teams and even Yale and missing the NCAA and then squeaking in last year not good signs either. No one is saying they are dying but they are not a national power any longer and it won't get better in the AAC where they've elevated teams like Tulsa and SMU (and lost to them).
 
A couple of things about yukon in my opinion. recruiting has been consistently good for yukon and will remain so as long as there is still plenty of money to buy recruits but if I was an investor/tax payer the returns haven't been nearly as impressive last couple of seasons. And isn't this kid recruiting over their top pickup from last year?

But last few years the recruiting has been "good" not at the level of Duke, KY etc. Considering they're recent history, it really should be. The high class ranking this year is because of quantity but none of the commits are elite players. Ollie one of the first names on NBA lists and the conference issue has to be why they are getting very good players, not elite players. Losing to lower name teams and even Yale and missing the NCAA and then squeaking in last year not good signs either. No one is saying they are dying but they are not a national power any longer and it won't get better in the AAC where they've elevated teams like Tulsa and SMU (and lost to them).

In their rush to become a "football power" Uconn was complicit in the breakup of the old Big East. They openly lobbied for admission to the ACC. They voted for admission of absurd schools so far removed from the original mission of the founding members of the Big East that it forced the hand of the Catholic schools. San Diego State, Boise State, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, TCU, Houston, Navy, etc. They made their bed. Bottom line is the AAC is killing their basketball program and naming the conference so they look like the acronym of the ACC didn't help.
 
Tough loss for PC, man they finish second a lot it seems;

Jeff Borzello – Verified account ‏@jeffborzello

UConn commit Makai Ashton-Langford is the No. 8 PG in 2017. Was down to UConn and Providence; visited both in the past week.

And here I thought UConn's program was ready to fold up and die.

Do you think Uconn is as good as it was before it left the BE? They are nowhere near a top 5 program anymore. And they will never become one again with the conference quagmire they find themselves in.

That program may never "fold up and die," but the Uconn days of being an elite program has been laid to rest.
 
Tough loss for PC, man they finish second a lot it seems;

Jeff Borzello – Verified account ‏@jeffborzello

UConn commit Makai Ashton-Langford is the No. 8 PG in 2017. Was down to UConn and Providence; visited both in the past week.

And here I thought UConn's program was ready to fold up and die.

Do you think Uconn is as good as it was before it left the BE? They are nowhere near a top 5 program anymore. And they will never become one again with the conference quagmire they find themselves in.

That program may never "fold up and die," but the Uconn days of being an elite program has been laid to rest.

Time will tell.
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.
 
Tough loss for PC, man they finish second a lot it seems;

Jeff Borzello – Verified account ‏@jeffborzello

UConn commit Makai Ashton-Langford is the No. 8 PG in 2017. Was down to UConn and Providence; visited both in the past week.

And here I thought UConn's program was ready to fold up and die.

Do you think Uconn is as good as it was before it left the BE? They are nowhere near a top 5 program anymore. And they will never become one again with the conference quagmire they find themselves in.

That program may never "fold up and die," but the Uconn days of being an elite program has been laid to rest.

Forget the BS you read on the Boneyard, Hartford and Gampel games are hard to get excited about with teams like East Carolina, Tulane, Central Florida, South Florida, SMU, Memphis, Houston and Tulsa come to the northeast to replace Villanova, St. John's, Georgetown, Marquette, Seton Hall, and now Xavier, Butler and Creighton. Of course also gone are Syracuse, Louisville and Pitt so the Uconn fans are no longer enjoying any regional or traditional rivalries any longer. That said, it is hard to feel sorry for them.
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.
 
Tough loss for PC, man they finish second a lot it seems;

Jeff Borzello – Verified account ‏@jeffborzello

UConn commit Makai Ashton-Langford is the No. 8 PG in 2017. Was down to UConn and Providence; visited both in the past week.

And here I thought UConn's program was ready to fold up and die.
we were at a new pisco bar yesterday in Lima and a bunch of gringos were walking in and the couple next to us start talking to us and the guy is from connecticut. I ask him if he is a hoops fan ( he is taller than me and I'm 6 ft 4 ) and he says he is huge Uconn fan. I tell him I'm a SJU fan and this douche starts bragging about Uconn in general so much that I want their program to burn in hell. Holy shit even outside the tri state area their fans are obnoxious

He asked me condescendingly when will we ever see the tournament again. I told him probably when he finally learns how to say gracias to the bartender when he serves him a drink
 
Tough loss for PC, man they finish second a lot it seems;

Jeff Borzello – Verified account ‏@jeffborzello

UConn commit Makai Ashton-Langford is the No. 8 PG in 2017. Was down to UConn and Providence; visited both in the past week.

And here I thought UConn's program was ready to fold up and die.
we were at a new pisco bar yesterday in Lima and a bunch of gringos were walking in and the couple next to us start talking to us and the guy is from connecticut. I ask him if he is a hoops fan ( he is taller than me and I'm 6 ft 4 ) and he says he is huge Uconn fan. I tell him I'm a SJU fan and this douche starts bragging about Uconn in general so much that I want their program to burn in hell. Holy shit even outside the tri state area their fans are obnoxious

He asked me condescendingly when will we ever see the tournament again. I told him probably when he finally learns how to say gracias to the bartender when he serves him a drink

Good for you! And yet Providence fans, on the their board, as well as a majority of Seton Hall fans on theirs, list us as the most obnoxious fans. Bottom line: Every program has its share of obnoxious fans. And the best way of silencing them: beating them ... not avoiding them, but beating them!
 
Tough loss for PC, man they finish second a lot it seems;

Jeff Borzello – Verified account ‏@jeffborzello

UConn commit Makai Ashton-Langford is the No. 8 PG in 2017. Was down to UConn and Providence; visited both in the past week.

And here I thought UConn's program was ready to fold up and die.
we were at a new pisco bar yesterday in Lima and a bunch of gringos were walking in and the couple next to us start talking to us and the guy is from connecticut. I ask him if he is a hoops fan ( he is taller than me and I'm 6 ft 4 ) and he says he is huge Uconn fan. I tell him I'm a SJU fan and this douche starts bragging about Uconn in general so much that I want their program to burn in hell. Holy shit even outside the tri state area their fans are obnoxious

He asked me condescendingly when will we ever see the tournament again. I told him probably when he finally learns how to say gracias to the bartender when he serves him a drink

Good for you! And yet Providence fans, on the their board, as well as a majority of Seton Hall fans on theirs, list us as the most obnoxious fans. Bottom line: Every program has its share of obnoxious fans. And the best way of silencing them: beating them ... not avoiding them, but beating them!
I agree but if Uconn happened to get caught up in some player and cow sex scandal and got the death penalty I wouldn't be disappointed :)
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.

up until right around the time they changed the redmen name we were top 4 all time wins. If I recall correctly it was only Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina ahead of us. Been downhill ever since. Duke passed us then a few others. I think we're around 8 or 9 now.
 
we were at a new pisco bar yesterday in Lima and a bunch of gringos were walking in and the couple next to us start talking to us and the guy is from connecticut. I ask him if he is a hoops fan ( he is taller than me and I'm 6 ft 4 ) and he says he is huge Uconn fan. I tell him I'm a SJU fan and this douche starts bragging about Uconn in general so much that I want their program to burn in hell. Holy shit even outside the tri state area their fans are obnoxious

He asked me condescendingly when will we ever see the tournament again. I told him probably when he finally learns how to say gracias to the bartender when he serves him a drink

Funny I talked to a guy from Ecuador and I was surprised that he knew St John's basketball but had no clue what a Yukon was. I educated him and now they are properly hated in Ecuador too. One building block at a time. We'll get there. "it takes a (South American) village"
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.

up until right around the time they changed the redmen name we were top 4 all time wins. If I recall correctly it was only Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina ahead of us. Been downhill ever since. Duke passed us then a few others. I think we're around 8 or 9 now.

Paul, are you suggesting the name change had something to do with this? :unsure:
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.

up until right around the time they changed the redmen name we were top 4 all time wins. If I recall correctly it was only Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina ahead of us. Been downhill ever since. Duke passed us then a few others. I think we're around 8 or 9 now.

Paul, are you suggesting the name change had something to do with this? :unsure:

I'd say they were part of the same zeitgeist of the program.
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.

up until right around the time they changed the redmen name we were top 4 all time wins. If I recall correctly it was only Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina ahead of us. Been downhill ever since. Duke passed us then a few others. I think we're around 8 or 9 now.

FTR, some of that drop in positioning is because the NCAA stripped us of about 50 wins due to the Abe Keita situation. I remember the day they announced that, they said we fell from 5th, to like 7th or 8th instantly.
 
Per Rothstein

Jay Wright told @CBSSports that Villanova should know something by the end of September regarding Omari Spellman's eligibility for 16-17.
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.

up until right around the time they changed the redmen name we were top 4 all time wins. If I recall correctly it was only Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina ahead of us. Been downhill ever since. Duke passed us then a few others. I think we're around 8 or 9 now.

FTR, some of that drop in positioning is because the NCAA stripped us of about 50 wins due to the Abe Keita situation. I remember the day they announced that, they said we fell from 5th, to like 7th or 8th instantly.

Well, you have to admit Keita's dominance at both ends of the court was the critical factor in all of those wins.
 
it took 3 episodes and 3 horrible prequels to defeat the Empire and about 7 different methods to kill Rasputin so they won't die any time soon.

Imagine the indignity of falling out the top 5 program category. We should be so unfortunate.

up until right around the time they changed the redmen name we were top 4 all time wins. If I recall correctly it was only Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina ahead of us. Been downhill ever since. Duke passed us then a few others. I think we're around 8 or 9 now.

FTR, some of that drop in positioning is because the NCAA stripped us of about 50 wins due to the Abe Keita situation. I remember the day they announced that, they said we fell from 5th, to like 7th or 8th instantly.

Well, you have to admit Keita's dominance at both ends of the court was the critical factor in all of those wins.

A staffer took the hit for Jar head and it's been downhill every since.
 
Non-conference scheduling studs and duds: The Big East
by Jeff Eisenberg

Since most of this coming season’s non-conference schedules have finally been released, it’s a good time to assess whose slates are the most daunting and who didn’t challenge themselves enough. Yahoo Sports will go league-by-league the next two weeks. Up next: The Big East.

Toughest non-league schedule: Georgetown

Expected to contend in the Big East last season thanks to the presence of star guard D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera and a talented supporting cast, Georgetown instead crumbled in February and March en route to a disappointing 15-18 record. Now the Hoyas will look to rebound in spite of a non-conference slate that is undeniably the Big East’s toughest.

Three marquee rivalry games highlight Georgetown’s schedule: a Nov. 15 rematch of last year’s narrow loss to Maryland, a Dec. 17 visit to hated Syracuse and a Jan. 14 home game against long-time Big East foe UConn. Each of those teams are Top 25 caliber and each are expected to be NCAA tournament participants next spring.

Georgetown also will be part of the Maui Invitational, easily this year’s strongest holiday tournament. The Hoyas will open with potential preseason top-five Oregon and will face either Big Ten contender Wisconsin or Tennessee on day two. Looming on the other side of the bracket are North Carolina, UConn and Oklahoma State.

Those six games alone will certainly test a Georgetown team that should have more depth than last year’s version but lost Smith-Rivera to graduation. The Hoyas will count on Robert Morris transfer Rodney Pryor to provide instant offense, sophomores Marcus Derrickson and Jessie Govan to solidify the frontcourt and guard L.J. Peak and forward Isaac Copeland to more consistently tap into their potential.

Easiest non-league schedule: DePaul

Can anyone really blame DePaul for not loading its non-conference schedule with formidable teams the way some of its Big East peers did? After all, second-year coach Dave Leitao inherits a program that hasn’t produced a winning season since 2007 and has compiled a 25-137 league record in the past nine seasons.

There’s a good chance DePaul will not play an NCAA tournament team before conference play unless Temple proves better than expected. The Blue Demons also host Rutgers, Drake and Milwaukee, visit Northwestern and play in a tournament featuring Wyoming, Missouri State and USC.

All in all, it’s a logical, confidence-boosting schedule for a program that appears no closer to fielding a team capable of being competitive in the BIg East. It’s just also clearly the weakest one in a league where most everyone else scheduled at least two or three top 50-caliber non-conference foes.

Four other notable Big East schedules:

Xavier: The Musketeers may not play another fellow top 15 program before conference play, but they face a handful of quality opponents. Among them: Baylor, Utah, Colorado, Northern Iowa and rival Cincinnati. Xavier also could meet Oklahoma should the Sooners and Musketeers advance to the title game of the Puerto Rico Tip-Off tournament.

Villanova: Two games jazz up an otherwise pedestrian schedule for the reigning national champs. Villanova visits Purdue on Nov. 14 in a matchup of contrasting styles and hosts Virginia on Jan. 29 in a rematch of the Cavaliers’ 86-75 victory last season. Both Purdue and Virginia should begin the season in the top 20.

Seton Hall: Although star guard Isaiah Whitehead declared for the NBA draft last spring, Seton Hall still built a non-conference schedule fit for an NCAA tournament-caliber team. The Pirates visit Iowa, meet Cal on a neutral floor and participate in the Advocare Invitational, where they’ll open with Florida and could see Gonzaga, Iowa State, Miami or Stanford in later rounds.

St. John’s: For a team that lost 24 games last season and is still at least year away from contending in the Big East, St. John’s assembled a pretty difficult non-conference schedule. The Johnnies visit in-state rival Syracuse, rebuilding Minnesota and Tulane, host Penn State and take part in the Battle 4 Atlantis, where they’ll open with Michigan State.

Four Big East non-conference games to watch:

1. Virginia at Villanova, Jan. 29: The last time these two national powers met, Virginia’s London Perrantes scored 15 of his 19 points in the second half last season as the Cavaliers pulled away from the Wildcats. Villanova will have to deal with Perrantes again this January when the two teams meet again, this time in Philadelphia.

2. Butler vs. Indiana, Dec. 17: Four years ago, Alex Barlow sank a go-ahead floater to lead Butler to a stunning upset of top-ranked Indiana. Two years ago, Yogi Ferrell starred and Tom Crean got his 300th career win at the Bulldogs’ expense. In December, Butler and Indiana will square off once again at the Crossroads Classic with in-state bragging rights at stake.

3. Xavier at Cincinnati, Date TBA: Seven times in the past nine years, Xavier has defeated its crosstown rival including last season’s 65-55 home win. Behind guard Edmund Sumner and forward Trevon Bluiett, the Musketeers should once again be favored next season, albeit by a slimmer margin on the road against another solid Bearcats team.

4. Georgetown at Syracuse, Dec. 17: One of the few bright spots in Georgetown’s otherwise deflating 2015-16 season was a 79-71 win over Syracuse in the first matchup between the two longtime rivals since the Orange left the Big East. The rematch will be a big challenge for the Hoyas with Syracuse at home and boasting another formidable top 20-caliber roster.

Game that should have been scheduled but wasn’t: Villanova vs. North Carolina.

One of the classic national title games in college basketball history deserves one thing: A rematch. Yes, Marcus Paige and Brice Johnson graduated from North Carolina last spring. Yes, Daniel Ochefu and Ryan Arcidiacono are both done at Villanova too. But with many of last year’s other stars back and both teams likely to begin the new season in the top 10, it’s a shame that the Tar Heels and Wildcats will not meet unless they draw one-another in the NCAA tournament.
 
Per Evan Daniels;
Ed Cooley has to be pumped about adding top 75 recruit Nate Watson. Tough, hard-playing post player that will board it & is improving on O.
 
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