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Amaseinyourface post=428023
GREAT for the Big East.
Not sure it’s great for us or teams looking to jump Marquette.
His wife I think is from Illinois so there that connection to that area.
Sure sounds like he was looking for an off ramp from Texas and Texas was in no hurry to stop him from leaving. He will get players though.
GREAT for the Big East.
Not sure it’s great for us or teams looking to jump Marquette.
His wife I think is from Illinois so there that connection to that area.
Sure sounds like he was looking for an off ramp from Texas and Texas was in no hurry to stop him from leaving. He will get players though.
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lawmanfan post=428075 said:
How though? Sure Texas to Marquette he seems to have done well for himself. But it's not like he's done that multiple times. He killed it at VCU and translated it into a bigger job. Saying failing upwards is a gift would strike me as one of those coaches who does its time and time again. (I'm sure they exist, top of my head nice Friday afternoon I can't name any)
Moose post=428078 said:
Conzo Martin?
Moose post=428078 said:
It's a bit of an overstatement, yeah. But: He did a great job at VCU, parlayed it into the Texas job. He didn't really kill it at Texas, though. I always felt he underachieved there and apparently so did the Texas fans (true, like most fan bases they have unrealistic expectations). He was probably going to get run out of there but instead he lands on his feet at Marquette.
It will be interesting to see if his Marquette tenure is more like his VCU one or more like his Texas one. To me he's a coach whose reputation is bigger than his results more often than you'd like to see.
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lawmanfan post=428087 said:
Agree on pretty much everything. He definitely didn't kill it at Texas. But one OK, not great, not mediocre stop doesn't make it a habit......yet. Props to him for landing on his feet before kicked out. But he still wouldn't have lasted long on the open market. If he pulls Wojo numbers at MQ then yes the luster is completely worn off.
The problem with that theory about Shaka is he turned down several high profile offers ever since he broke thru with the Final 4 run at VCU. He turned down NC St same year, turned down Illinois year later, turned down UCLA. And now he is leaving Texas after having his BEST year winning B12 Tourney title, sweeping Kansas and getting a 3 seed in Tourney. So hard to argue he is simply getting ahead of the posse or that he is just some drifter who goes from job to job. No doubt he probably understood that although he was not going to get fired this year despite his success this year the NCAA loss did not leave him a lot of goodwill which means he would have been on the griddle next year. That is hardly a person who is constantly failing while chasing the next job.
Also if he was "killing it" at Texas then obviously he would not be headed to Marquette.
If Mike Anderson was "killing it" at Arkansas do you think he will be at SJU now? If he had gotten a 3 seed his last year like Musselman had he would not have been fired at Arkansas.
If Geoff McDermott killed it at Iowa St he would not have left to go back to Missouri Valley-Creighton?
Sometimes the opportunity to land a solid coach is because they did not "kill it."
If Mike Anderson was "killing it" at Arkansas do you think he will be at SJU now? If he had gotten a 3 seed his last year like Musselman had he would not have been fired at Arkansas.
If Geoff McDermott killed it at Iowa St he would not have left to go back to Missouri Valley-Creighton?
Sometimes the opportunity to land a solid coach is because they did not "kill it."
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I would prefer not to have Smart in the Big East. Marquette seems like a school he could do well at.
[URL]https://www.espn.com/mens-coll...xas-shaka-smart-talks-marquette-deal-imminent[/URL]
[URL]https://www.espn.com/mens-coll...xas-shaka-smart-talks-marquette-deal-imminent[/URL]
Wojo @Marquette / BE ( and no tourney wins)
Marquette:128–95 (.574) 59–68 (.465)
Shaka @Texas/B12 (and no tourney wins)
Texas: 109–86 (.559) 52–56 (.481)
I would have gone after Moser if I were Marquette. Shaka can recruit (as Wojo could also) but did not translate to W's.
Marquette:128–95 (.574) 59–68 (.465)
Shaka @Texas/B12 (and no tourney wins)
Texas: 109–86 (.559) 52–56 (.481)
I would have gone after Moser if I were Marquette. Shaka can recruit (as Wojo could also) but did not translate to W's.
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nycfan post=428096 said:
Fair but unfair. Ones proven they could get it done.
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Mullins Revenge
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Im not sure if its his funky name, the one miracle season he had a VCU etc, but Smart is the most overrated coach in college basketball.