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The contract is set through 2032 and was listed in the press as "air tight" when Disney/ESPN counsel tried to break it for the ACC after Syracuse, Pitt, et al. left. The Big East is a valued partner for MSG that can be counted upon to fill the place, and it does.
What the ACC (and Big Ten) subsequently learned is that New York is a road less traveled for their fans and they couldn't sell the tickets. Tickets at the Barclays Center during the last ACC tournament were selling in the single digits for the first two days, and the Big Ten's effort was seen as a major disappointment. They have no plans at this point to return.
The Big 12 may eventually rotate between Kansas City (its original home with the Big 8) and Las Vegas but with only two Big 12 schools within 1,000 miles of Midtown, it's not a likely destination.
Nice post - but GTFOH with that handle and avi!
I agree that a UConn addition wouldn't be enough to change anything, but I expect the ACC to implode a lot sooner than 2032. I know their contract ends 2036, the exit fees, etc. but at a minimum I think Florida St and Clemson will find a way out within the next couple years with all of the ongoing legal battles.
Whether it's only FSU and Clemson or the conference falls apart is unknown. The best case for the Big East of course would be if Louisville, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, UVA, VT, Duke, etc. remain stuck there for at least the next decade.
If they (and UConn) end up in the Big 12 in the next few years, I still maintain that'd be a much bigger threat than when the ACC or Big Ten came here. This scenario would have nearly all of the old Big East football schools (the ACC lacks UConn, WVU, Cincinnati) and some brands that would draw really well like Kansas and Duke.
I do like that we haven't heard much the past couple days regarding UConn. The fact they haven't voted means they probably don't have the votes yet and need to convince a couple presidents. If they had the votes they could (and should) vote immediately. Football is just a couple days away...
Can’t imagine this is a great omen for pulling a big time candidate here at St. John’s..
so we signed 2 freshmen in '23... 3 (including Prey) in '24.... seemingly involved with, no one in '25...?
spin Zone.... Matt has some Monster Transfers targeted....
spin Zone.... Matt has some Monster Transfers targeted....
4 this year-Glover, Maker, Lefty and Prey.
I'd like a mix (as we have seen) to try to have some consistency of personnel YOY, adding and filling with the portal as needed.
Agreed, but the landscape of the game has changed. Most essential now is having the resources each year to compensate our guys. Every single recruit is basically on a one year contract. Sad but true.
It is going to be interesting in that regard this season. The Johnnies have 6 “young” players and I think the only one assured of consistent minutes or a defined role is probably Wilcher IMO. IF that is the case what happens post season will be interesting.
BUT, winning trumps all so Pitino obviously should and will coach as he sees fit.
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Then why is every other school still recruiting freshmen? My feeling is you need some freshmen every year just to create a potential pipeline. No guarantee you will get the transfers you want or need. At least a freshman is an investment in the future. I am not saying sign all freshmen but you can not ignore that population when building a roster
Not sure where it was mentioned that no other schools are recruiting freshman. The NIL era is in full swing, there is no guarantee a freshman is an investment for the future. How did AJ Storr work out? It’s about dollars and sense and what the staff wants for each and every season. The landscape is what it is.
Pitino will be 72 at the start of the season so to quote former NFL coach Georgie Allen “the future is now”.
StJ’s N$L money was better spent on Aaron Scott, Kadary Richmond, and Deivon Smith than untested blue chippers.
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Side-note: I agree with the many posters who predict Smith will be a star.
StJ’s N$L money was better spent on Aaron Scott, Kadary Richmond, and Deivon Smith than untested blue chippers.
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Side-note: I agree with the many posters who predict Smith will be a star.
I think AJ could have worked out here but it was more a question of Pitino being new. AJ could very well be a pretty high first round draft pick, so a decent NIL was probably warranted.