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Room112" post=418232 said:
Not an alum" post=418207 said:
Continue to be impressed w the job Ewing's done.  Weathered the storm and now hes Bringing in a stellar recruiting class. They are going to be dangerous. 
I love posts like this. Ewing is now in his fourth losing season, with no tournament appearances. We had people on this board who wanted to fire CMA 10 games into his second season. 

So Ewing is allowed to weather a storm for 4 years of losing (in addition to a max edodus of players he recruited during that time), and is congratulated for it because he has a strong class coming in for his 5th year. 


How do you know that Not an alum is of the same opinion as others that you have pointed out were critical of CMA?  If he wasn't then your post makes no sense.
 
 
Will be interesting to see if St. John's gets any top 25 votes now. Uconn got some last week and were previiusly ranked and theyve really beaten no one. 
 
BrooklynRed" post=418238 said:
Hoyas exposed what Nova lacks (which will sound familiar to St. John's fans)--no inside presence.  The talk of them going far in the tournamnet is, I believe, overstating Nova.  We exposed Gillespie last week and Wahab for Gtown had his way in the low post.  Also Samuels bailed Nova out today with 32 after the grand total of 2 points against us.  Maybe we ain't that bad.

Uhh okay, Nova has no inside presence, who won the game?  Who imploded down the stretch?  How'd Wahab do in the last eight minutes?  Who's in first place in the BE?   And, of course, Ewing's a great coach./media/kunena/emoticons/ermm.png


 
 
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Room112" post=418232 said:
Not an alum" post=418207 said:
Continue to be impressed w the job Ewing's done.  Weathered the storm and now hes Bringing in a stellar recruiting class. They are going to be dangerous. 
I love posts like this. Ewing is now in his fourth losing season, with no tournament appearances. We had people on this board who wanted to fire CMA 10 games into his second season. 

So Ewing is allowed to weather a storm for 4 years of losing (in addition to a max edodus of players he recruited during that time), and is congratulated for it because he has a strong class coming in for his 5th year. 
The issue Ewing is having is not his coaching ability, it's managing 18 and 19 year old kids (which is big part of being a college basketball coach).  He would have been a much better NBA coach than college coach, because he'd be dealing with grown men and his GM would handle the rosters.  In college basketball these days with how easy it is to transfer, if you don't have a great relationship with your kids and know how to manage the different personalities and communicate and relate to them you're going to be in trouble. I think Ewing struggles to do that, that's why you see such high turnover with him.  But, as far as X's and O's and his general ability to coach and get the most of out whatever roster he has, he does that really well, no matter who he has on the floor his teams always compete. 
 
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Making Plays" post=418265 said:
The issue Ewing is having is not his coaching ability, it's managing 18 and 19 year old kids (which is big part of being a college basketball coach).  He would have been a much better NBA coach than college coach, because he'd be dealing with grown men and his GM would handle the rosters.  In college basketball these days with how easy it is to transfer, if you don't have a great relationship with your kids and know how to manage the different personalities and communicate and relate to them you're going to be in trouble. I think Ewing struggles to do that, that's why you see such high turnover with him.  But, as far as X's and O's and his general ability to coach and get the most of out whatever roster he has, he does that really well, no matter who he has on the floor his teams always compete. 
 

I don't see this the same way.  Ewing has demonstrated that he is a very good strategic (how to play against a particular opponent) and tactical (in-game adjustment) coach.  He know how to get the most out of what he has and how to try to minimize the other team's strengths.  On that we agree.

However, I don't think the reason why his program has struggled has been an inability to relate to or manage college-age players.  I think that he is demanding of them in much the same way Anderson and many other successful coaches are.

In my opinion the reason why his program has struggled is a sort of Lavin-with-St John's problem.  He came in to a program where the cupboard was bare (Lavin at least inherited a team of seniors before he had to start the total rebuild in his second year).  He recruited the best talent he could find regardless of character issues, and assumed that he could manage those personalities the same way his mentor John Thompson did.  As it turned out, that didn't work for him, he had massive turnover, and that put him where he is now - back at the beginning with little to work with.  [This is probably a good place to note that Anderson clearly takes character into consideration in his recruiting and is clearly willing to pass on players that he has character concerns about.]

The test for him is going to be whether the players he's recruited on his second effort will have better character / be better fits for his expectations than the last time.  If they are, then Georgetown will be good very soon becuase he does know how to coach and Wahab and Dante Harris are very useful parts that he'll have returning to build around.  If they aren't, then that will probably be it for Patrick.  But I would bet that he has not repeated his mistakes and that his program is going to rise starting next year.

As for yesterday's game, Nova just did not look like a happy team to me.  They executed their offense OK, but there was no crispness to it, no joy in their game, no life.  They just didn't look like a team that wanted to be there.  Something is off in Wright-land.  The game was close because Nova has the same problem we do, they can't handle a big man, and Georgetown (to Ewing's credit) just doesn't give up and go away, they keep fighting.  But ultimately I thought it was more about Nova struggling than Georgetown improving, though i guess it was a little bit of both.
 
Common sense has to prevail re BE Tourney seeding for Xavier considering how few conference games they have played and unlikelihood of making up many cancelled games

Fanta & Zach

This Just In: This Thursday’s DePaul at Xavier game has been postponed due to COVID considerations. No makeup date has been announced.

https://twitter.com/nypost_brazille/status/1358810337097773058?s=21
 
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I was going to post that Nova is way overrated this year but it looks more like college bb teams in general are nowhere near  as talented as they usually are.  The blue bloods are all having terrible years for them and there appears to be a year absent of any great one and done players. So while Nova is nowhere near as good as some of their recent teams maybe they aren't overrated.
 
Big Red" post=418158 said:
Sometimes you just see the "it" factor. You could be blind and feel it. "Special" is written all over Posh.

Brook Jersey Redman and Big Red
Thank you!
I've posted before - Johnny Dawkins - I believe his commitment turned Duke around and saved Mike Krzyewski's job as Duke did not perform well in the latter's first few years.
We already have made great progress since April 2019 and I think Pinzon and Traore are fine talented pickups - and can play at the 4-5 star level that Posh and Julian are!
Forget ratings. Look what the kids are doing in the real world of the basketball court.
Go St. Johns!

(If I may for younger posters, I had a great day as a cadet late 1960s when visiting Army beat the Redmen at Alumni Hall - Bobby Knight coaching, Mike K at the point - what pleasant bus ride that was back to the beautiful West Point garrison (campus) and the rigors of cadet life.)



 
 
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UConn’s James Bouknight is out tonight at Providence, source told @stadium.

Jeff Goodman 
 
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I read that the big East tournament will do seeding based on conference win/loss percentage, so with that in mind we should be rooting for Providence here because it'll make UConn 5-5 in conference which equals our 7-7. 

if we jump UConn that would be pretty significant it would get us a first round bye. Remember top 5 seeds get bye this year. The 6 seed has to play Wednesday now. I'd love to bypass Wednesday night BET it's something we haven't done in awhile 
 
Uconn just isn't that good without Bouknight. The last 5 minutes or so if this game felt more like an exhibition than an important BE game. 
 
That's sound good but I will take some 4* or higher players. Look how long it's taking us to get a quailty  big that's can can rebound  and block  and has moves inside look around the country small schools have them we should hav3 by now.under our present recruiting we will be lucky to stay where we are.Need better recruits to move into the first tier 


 
 
usguard" post=419131 said:
That's sound good but I will take some 4* or higher players. Look how long it's taking us to get a quailty  big that's can can rebound  and block  and has moves inside look around the country small schools have them we should hav3 by now.under our present recruiting we will be lucky to stay where we are.Need better recruits to move into the first tier 

To quote the inimitable Sonny and Cher:  "and the beat goes on."  Ad infinitum.



 
 
Yet its been posted by some that we can't win a big game /media/kunena/emoticons/wassat.png
 
Near term:
Providence over UConn helps us.
Nova over Marquette helps us.

Longer term:
If UConn gets Bouknight back, rescheduling that game may not help us.
Expectation for the game at Nova should be to try to keep it a single-digit loss.
 
John Fanta  @John_FantaVillanova routs Marquette 96-64. The Wildcats scored 56 in the second half. Six different Villanova players hit a 3… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…Villanova has a six man rotation only and they all play very intense active defense! They did not let up at all when ahead by 20 or 30 points! Very disciplined and impressed by their stamina. We need to be that intense for 40 minutes!
 
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