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The portal has significantly impacted the value of high school recruits. As we see ourselves, most can't counted on as immediate contributors and most are likely to transfer.
It's pretty sad, there is a local senior recruit who was being pursued by the highest of high majors over the last 2 years and his recruiting has come to a standstill (in my opinion largely due to) because of the portal. Teams are completely terrified of building with freshmen.
 
It's pretty sad, there is a local senior recruit who was being pursued by the highest of high majors over the last 2 years and his recruiting has come to a standstill (in my opinion largely due to) because of the portal. Teams are completely terrified of building with freshmen.
Definitely a side effect of the player empowerment/transfer rules (which I generally agree with). NCAA needs to get a hold of the situation. I actually do think Baker is a good leader and will figure it out.
 
Please refresh my memory …. How many times can a player transfer without sitting out?

I thought post COVID year the player was capped at one time, but the comments in pthe previous page indicates it may be more than one time. How many?

Thanks
 
It's pretty sad, there is a local senior recruit who was being pursued by the highest of high majors over the last 2 years and his recruiting has come to a standstill (in my opinion largely due to) because of the portal. Teams are completely terrified of building with freshmen.
Agree it’s sad, but very unfortunately understandable; NIL and transfer rules were put in place so the NCAA could protect their income stream. The “student athlete” as always is just a tool to be used, to quote Dylan, “Only a pawn in their game”.
 
Please refresh my memory …. How many times can a player transfer without sitting out?

I thought post COVID year the player was capped at one time, but the comments in pthe previous page indicates it may be more than one time. How many?

Thanks
I believe there are no restrictions anymore.
 
Definitely a Fan of the 1-time free transfer w/out sitting. They are 18yr old kids when they commit, and should be allowed to transfer w/out penalty for any reason. Agree on the point as well if a Coach leaves, player should be allowed to transfer again w/out penalty.

Issue with a potential Cap... we'll just be in the same situation pre-NIL... where we know kids got "A bag"
That is true. I would implement a severe penalty for that. Something like a two year death penalty for a program that gets caught handing out money outside the NIL.

No probation or loss of scholarships. Immediate shut down.
 
That is true. I would implement a severe penalty for that. Something like a two year death penalty for a program that gets caught handing out money outside the NIL.

No probation or loss of scholarships. Immediate shut down.
It would have to be similar consequences to what would happen if a NBA/NFL/MLB team went beyond payroll. It's easily doable.
 
That is true. I would implement a severe penalty for that. Something like a two year death penalty for a program that gets caught handing out money outside the NIL.

No probation or loss of scholarships. Immediate shut down.
A salary or NIL cap can't work because the NCAA, nor conferences, nor schools themselves can legally limit the amount of "NIL" a player can receive. Any type of salary or NIL cap will be met with immediate lawsuits that will almost certainly succeed
 
A salary or NIL cap can't work because the NCAA, nor conferences, nor schools themselves can legally limit the amount of "NIL" a player can receive. Any type of salary or NIL cap will be met with immediate lawsuits that will almost certainly succeed
Unless they are allowed to collectively bargain and come up with that limit together.
 
The bodies in the Vincentian Coaches Graveyard are piling up. Seems like SJU and Blue Demons are about even.
True enough . Except now we hired Pitino and the firings should stop.

DePaul still has to get that Home Run hire . As many have said …
 
Unless they are allowed to collectively bargain and come up with that limit together.
A) That would require players to unionize
B) If they did unionize what would their incentive be to take the uncapped status quo that allows to earn as much as possible and agree to a capped scenario that limits that?
 
A) That would require players to unionize
B) If they did unionize what would their incentive be to take the uncapped status quo that allows to earn as much as possible and agree to a capped scenario that limits that?
A: Yes, I personally think its inevitable. This limbo isn't good for anyone.
B: One incentive would be that the non-star players have a minimum pay structure and more stability than they do now.
 
Agree it’s sad, but very unfortunately understandable; NIL and transfer rules were put in place so the NCAA could protect their income stream. The “student athlete” as always is just a tool to be used, to quote Dylan, “Only a pawn in their game”.
Yes I agree. Unfortunately understandable is the accurate phrase to describe it. Especially when you look at a situation like what Coach Pitino walked into. You want to win right away and the obvious route to that is older experienced players where the learning curve isn't so steep. But it comes at a price. Continuous roster overturning, lack of continuity year to year for the majority of the roster, culture rebuilding etc
 
A) That would require players to unionize
B) If they did unionize what would their incentive be to take the uncapped status quo that allows to earn as much as possible and agree to a capped scenario that limits that?
We are on the verge of these players becoming university employees. So why not go all in and have them “unionize”? They are still going to get paid and have it much better than players before them. Even non unionized jobs have salary ranges.
 
Yes I agree. Unfortunately understandable is the accurate phrase to describe it. Especially when you look at a situation like what Coach Pitino walked into. You want to win right away and the obvious route to that is older experienced players where the learning curve isn't so steep. But it comes at a price. Continuous roster overturning, lack of continuity year to year for the majority of the roster, culture rebuilding etc.
There is the possibility that the “Pitino approach”, player development, just may be OBE’d by this brave new world, emphasis on possibility, but no secret to anyone not in a coma that the world has morphed big time into an instant gratification mode. I hope not but the thought is there, at least in my mind.
 
We are on the verge of these players becoming university employees. So why not go all in and have them “unionize”? They are still going to get paid and have it much better than players before them. Even non unionized jobs have salary ranges.
The fact that numerous university higher ups are openly talking about splitting revenues with players make this inevitable.
 
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