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Marillac2 said:
We are nothing like DePaul. Even being bad for years, we still got loads of views. We also have MSG. DePaul could be located in Tokyo, it doesn’t matter. They don’t get views and they don’t attract fans. It’s like saying Suny Purchase brings the NYC market.

DePaul averaged 1,800 real attendance a game last year. One game they got 557 fans and 777 for another. It’s insane. Dayton averaged 13,407 by comparison. Dayton brings in a higher % of views from Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus tv markets than DePaul does in Chicago.

Programs are going to get dropped and left behind now. Look at Washington State and Oregon State. Vandy, Northwestern, and Rutgers are on borrowed time.

In a perfect world you want the Chicago market, but not at the expense of DePaul bringing down every metric imaginable.
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You could not be more wrong ! The Pace Setters are stirring up interest far beyond SUNY Purchase . After all , they beat New York’s team .
Even though it was a scrimmage . DePaul’s Arena looks very nice and new in the last few years .

Their BB doldrums have been way too long . Seems they can’t keep Chicago or Suburb kids at home .

They need something to generate attention . Winning Basketball games is a start but , you have to have the Players to win .

I agree they need a mega Coaching hire to add dynamite to the rebuilding efforts on the Court .

Although I’m not a fan , a guy like Kelvin Sampson is that type . A little shady but , gets it done . If Wade is cut from that cloth too , maybe he’s worth a look for the Blue Demons ?
 
MugCostanza said:
Pretty much everything in this is completely ridiculous. It does matter that DePaul is in Chicago and not Tokyo. The fact they are in Chicago is literally why they are in the league lol. It's not like they were a top tier program before joining the league and have just fallen on hard times since. They've been decent at times in the past but were never a top tier program.

The only metric that matters in this day and age is the TV contract. Nothing else comes close to it from the conference perspective. Having a school in Chicago is very important in that respect because it matters how many homes your network is in. Chicago has nearly 2x the population of Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus combined.

Comparing what happened to Washington State and Oregon State to kicking DePaul out of the Big East is comparing apples and machetes. Neither of those schools got kicked out of a conference, they just got left standing in a game of conference musical chairs when the P12 imploded.

Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Rutgers are set for life. Northwestern is in Chicago, Vanderbilt is in Nashville and Rutgers is the only major CFB program in the general vicinity of NYC. They won't get booted from their conferences for 100 years.
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I used Tokyo because of it's population, not it's location. It has 40 million people in its metro area. DePaul doesn't get eyeballs. Do you think Fordham brings the NYC market to the A-10?

Nashville is a really bad example, because the SEC has already captured the entire state and region with Tennessee, UK, and Alabama. Vanderbilt offers nothing other than academics and basketball. They will not be part of the SEC in 15 years. Northwestern offers the Big 10 even less.

Obviously Chicago matters! It's literally the only thing keeping DePaul in the Big East. But they are becoming completely irrelevant even in that area. If 500 people are showing up to games, how many do you think are tuning in to watch them play Providence? It's Big 10 country and cable is dying quickly so the paradigm is shifting. They need to step it up in a major way and the league needs to apply major pressure. We simply cannot have a team that routinely drags are metrics so far down. Creighton and Gonzaga get way more views in much smaller markets.
 
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