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[gregbodkin]

St. Joe's just picked off Nova.

 

[espken]

Picked 4th in the Big East, Nova will finish no better than 5th in the inaugural Big Five Classic this weekend.

 

[NCJohnnie]

Hate to see any of the better Big East teams lose these out of conference games. Outside of Marquette and UCONN results pretty mixed so far.

 

[Mean Gene]

Picked 4th in the Big East, Nova will finish no better than 5th in the inaugural Big Five Classic this weekend.

This is why some posters on here say the jury is still out on Kyle Neptune. I don’t think if Jay Wright is coaching that Villanova loses this game. They didn’t just lose they got blown out.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

This is why some posters on here say the jury is still out on Kyle Neptune. I don’t think if Jay Wright is coaching that Villanova loses this game. They didn’t just lose they got blown out.

Not the Jay Wright the last half of his career, but let’s not forget he took his bumps too. Before and after his first final four.

 

[paultzman]

Nova D the problem it seems

 

[billthetruth]

Nova D the problem it seems

And the coach too. He is in over his head.

 

[billthetruth]

This is why some posters on here say the jury is still out on Kyle Neptune. I don’t think if Jay Wright is coaching that Villanova loses this game. They didn’t just lose they got blown out.

Some guys like Rob Saleh are good coordinators and assistants but are not head coaches.

Seen nothing in Neptune that screams great coach.

 

[mjmaherjr]

This is why some posters on here say the jury is still out on Kyle Neptune. I don’t think if Jay Wright is coaching that Villanova loses this game. They didn’t just lose they got blown out.

I say the jury is out because he's not Jay Wright

 

[espken]

I say the jury is out because he's not Jay Wright

same

 

[SJU85]

We are nothing like DePaul. Even being bad for years, we still got loads of views. We also have MSG. DePaul could be located in Tokyo, it doesn’t matter. They don’t get views and they don’t attract fans. It’s like saying Suny Purchase brings the NYC market.

DePaul averaged 1,800 real attendance a game last year. One game they got 557 fans and 777 for another. It’s insane. Dayton averaged 13,407 by comparison. Dayton brings in a higher % of views from Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus tv markets than DePaul does in Chicago.

Programs are going to get dropped and left behind now. Look at Washington State and Oregon State. Vandy, Northwestern, and Rutgers are on borrowed time.

In a perfect world you want the Chicago market, but not at the expense of DePaul bringing down every metric imaginable.

Having the Chicago market is and matters in the next media contract. It’s not the number of eyeballs that are viewing DePaul, it is the number of eyeballs from that area viewing any Big East whether they at me fans of DePaul or another Big East team. That was one of the main reasons Rutgers was targeted by the Big Ten. It was for the eyeballs that it would have access to their network even if they were not RU fans. It helped their Network to be added on cable systems in this area. The league and the AD know that. Money is what will prevail and not the metrics.

The Washington State and Oregon State situation is 100% different because their location brings nothing to the table as far as what the other Big 4 conferences were looking for. That is why they were left behind and it had nothing to do with poor performance. It remains to be seen if the SEC or the BIG Ten drop Vanderbilt or Northwestern respectively. I tend to doubt Northwestern is dropped from the Big 10 as they fit their academic profile and a few other reasons but that is pure speculation on my part as is the talk of them being asked/told to leave.

 

[Queens_Ball]

I can tell I’m too into Big East basketball because I’m barely watching any of Duke/Arkansas because I keep switching over to see if Georgetown is really gonna lose to Merrimack.

 

[GeorgiaRed]

same

You never wanna be the guy that follows "the guy".

 

[SJU85]

This is why some posters on here say the jury is still out on Kyle Neptune. I don’t think if Jay Wright is coaching that Villanova loses this game. They didn’t just lose they got blown out.

Jay Wright lost to St. Joe’s
four times (he was 17-4 overall) while he was at Nova and 3 of the four losses including the last one in 2008, were by double digits. It happens.

 

[espken]

You never wanna be the guy that follows "the guy".

Especially when your only head coaching experience is a 16-16 record at Fordham.

 

[SJU85]

I can tell I’m too into Big East basketball because I’m barely watching any of Duke/Arkansas because I keep switching over to see if Georgetown is really gonna lose to Merrimack.

I am watching Duke vs. Arkansas (How is Jordan Derkak from Merrimack doing. I am not saying he can play at this level, but I really like him, tough, hard nosed kid) good game with Arkansas up 39-34 16.03 into the second half.

 

[Queens_Ball]

I am watching Duke vs. Arkansas (How is Jordan Derkak from Merrimack doing. I am not saying he can play at this level, but I really like him, tough, hard nose kid) good game with Arkansas up 39-34 16.03 into the second half.

He’s doing well. As I read your post he was hitting 2 FTs to cut it to a 1 point Gerogetown lead with 22seconds left. They just said he’s got 20 points. Leading scorer

 

[SJU85]

He’s doing well. As I read your post he was hitting 2 FTs to cut it to a 1 point Gerogetown lead with 22seconds left. They just said he’s got 20 points. Leading scorer

Thanks, he is a Jersey kid and played against us last year.

 

[MugCostanza]

We are nothing like DePaul. Even being bad for years, we still got loads of views. We also have MSG. DePaul could be located in Tokyo, it doesn’t matter. They don’t get views and they don’t attract fans. It’s like saying Suny Purchase brings the NYC market.

DePaul averaged 1,800 real attendance a game last year. One game they got 557 fans and 777 for another. It’s insane. Dayton averaged 13,407 by comparison. Dayton brings in a higher % of views from Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus tv markets than DePaul does in Chicago.

Programs are going to get dropped and left behind now. Look at Washington State and Oregon State. Vandy, Northwestern, and Rutgers are on borrowed time.

In a perfect world you want the Chicago market, but not at the expense of DePaul bringing down every metric imaginable.

Pretty much everything in this is completely ridiculous. It does matter that DePaul is in Chicago and not Tokyo. The fact they are in Chicago is literally why they are in the league lol. It's not like they were a top tier program before joining the league and have just fallen on hard times since. They've been decent at times in the past but were never a top tier program.

The only metric that matters in this day and age is the TV contract. Nothing else comes close to it from the conference perspective. Having a school in Chicago is very important in that respect because it matters how many homes your network is in. Chicago has nearly 2x the population of Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus combined.

Comparing what happened to Washington State and Oregon State to kicking DePaul out of the Big East is comparing apples and machetes. Neither of those schools got kicked out of a conference, they just got left standing in a game of conference musical chairs when the P12 imploded.

Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Rutgers are set for life. Northwestern is in Chicago, Vanderbilt is in Nashville and Rutgers is the only major CFB program in the general vicinity of NYC. They won't get booted from their conferences for 100 years.

 

[Jack Williams]

Not the Jay Wright the last half of his career, but let’s not forget he took his bumps too. Before and after his first final four.

Crazy to think in the few years before their title over UNC, Nova and coach Wright were the butt of the joke nationally after consistently coming up small in March while always having a good seed

feels like a lifetime ago with all the success they have had in just the last 7-8 years