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paultzman said:
Rothstein

NEWS: Matchups are set for the 2022 Gavitt Games, according to multiple sources.

Villanova at Michigan State
Indiana at Xavier
Iowa at Seton Hall
Marquette at Purdue
Butler at Penn St
Northwestern at Georgetown
Nebraska at St. John's
DePaul at Minnesota
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Since we had to play a team scheduled for a road game and we played Indiana last year looks like the only options were Nebraska, Iowa or Northwestern. Obviously Iowa is clearly the best of those three and SHU has definitely earned the better matchup
 
Wish we would have gotten a real Big 10 team not an old Big 12 team although I am looking forward to the Oklahoma vs Nebraska football game this fall (for old times sake). Those old rivals played some great games when they were in the same conference.
 
FWIW, Bart Torvik has Nebraska ranked 90th right now which is far from terrible. Not a great game but for comparison’s sake it’s way better than the Pitt game at MSG was last season. Better not lose this one though
 
Johnny Rapper said:
Patrick Ewing is doing what Mr. Mullin should have done if he valued his job which apparently he did not.
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Ewing just went 0- for the BE Season . Mullin did get us to a NCAA. And , while Patrick gets top talent , who knows why? He doesn’t seem able to hold on to them . They go quickly elsewhere .
 
Fizzy said:
Tradition and Academics....
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Mullin and St. John's were extremely popular in NY when they were paired together. The Ewing and Georgetown pairing wasn't just popular in the DMV, but urban areas all over the country including NYC (despite our presence) and countries who were just developing basketball programs. While from a basketball sense, the Georgetown brand has lost that luster (so have we), Ewing on the other hand is still considered an icon in those same areas and his presence as a player both in college and in the pros still looms. While today's kids didn't see him play, their parents and grand parents did.

Ewing shook up his staff (and added guys who might be more in tune with today's players and definitely is the case with at least one highly regarded and top notch recruiter he added) and maybe he has gotten not just good players, but ones who fit what he wants to do and how he wants to coach (this includes what he demands and how he demands (tone) and enforces how he wants things be done both on and off the court). Now we will see if it translates into victories and retention.
 
SJU85 said:
Mullin and St. John's were extremely popular in NY when they were paired together. The Ewing and Georgetown pairing wasn't just popular in the DMV, but urban areas all over the country including NYC (despite our presence) and countries who were just developing basketball programs. While from a basketball sense, the Georgetown brand has lost that luster (so have we), Ewing on the other hand is still considered an icon in those same areas and his presence as a player both in college and in the pros still looms. While today's kids didn't see him play, their parents and grand parents did.

Ewing shook up his staff (and added guys who might be more in tune with today's players and definitely is the case with at least one highly regarded and top notch recruiter he added) and maybe he has gotten not just good players, but ones who fit what he wants to do and how he wants to coach (this includes what he demands and how he demands (tone) and enforces how he wants things be done both on and off the court). Now we will see if it translates into victories and retention.
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You make valid points. But it's easy to forget that Ewing has already had 5 years at this. The fact that he's making changes now after year 5 and only after not winning one Big East game, should be concerning to those in charge over there. HIs overall record at Georgetown is 68-84 (.447) and 26-63 (.292) in the Big East. Who would be happy with those results after 5 seasons?
 
room112 said:
You make valid points. But it's easy to forget that Ewing has already had 5 years at this. The fact that he's making changes now after year 5 and only after not winning one Big East game, should be concerning to those in charge over there. HIs overall record at Georgetown is 68-84 (.447) and 26-63 (.292) in the Big East. Who would be happy with those results after 5 seasons?
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They are concerned, a little less so now than then but concerned nevertheless. Adjustments to staff should have occurred earlier but he was for the most part still getting players. He is an icon who evidently works hard and basically knows he had one year to turn this ship around and took appropriate steps to do so. While it has not been a good stint, he does have a BE Tourny Championship.
 
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SJU85 said:
They are concerned, a little less so now than then but concerned nevertheless. Adjustments to staff should have occurred earlier but he was for the most part still getting players. He is an icon who evidently works hard and basically knows he had one year to turn this ship around and took appropriate steps to do so. While it has not been a good stint, he does have a BE Tourny Championship.
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It remains to be seen if that BE tourney championship becomes a mirror image of the Hatten NIT win. Did more harm than good.
 
SJU85 said:
They are concerned, a little less so now than then but concerned nevertheless. Adjustments to staff should have occurred earlier but he was for the most part still getting players. He is an icon who evidently works hard and basically knows he had one year to turn this ship around and took appropriate steps to do so. While it has not been a good stint, he does have a BE Tourny Championship.
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I didn't think Ewings staff was all that bad to begin with. Louis Orr was a proven commodity as were a few of the others.
 
austour said:
It remains to be seen if that BE tourney championship becomes a mirror image of the Hatten NIT win. Did more harm than good.
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Although I went to the finals of that NIT (I don’t recall if I went to the semis) and supported that team, I remember complaining on the old Board how that was considered a success when the year before with basically the same team, we were dancing. I don’t want to derail the thread, but Jarvis comments about being one of two teams winning a national championship that year makes my blood boil even now.
 
SJU85 said:
Although I went to the finals of that NIT (I don’t recall if I went to the semis) and supported that team, I remember complaining on the old Board how that was considered a success when the year before with basically the same team, we were dancing. I don’t want to derail the thread, but Jarvis comments about being one of two teams winning a national championship that year makes my blood boil even now.
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jarvii idn't have to say anything to make my blood boil. :p
 
Johnny Rapper said:
I didn't think Ewings staff was all that bad to begin with. Louis Orr was a proven commodity as were a few of the others.
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Orr is by all accounts a good guy and class act but things have changed in this land scape and adjustments have to be made sometimes. He may be more suited for the role he know finds himself in on the staff.
 
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