Around the Big East 19/20
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jerseyshorejohnny
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[quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-30-junior-keon-edwards-commits-to-depaul
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-30-junior-keon-edwards-commits-to-depaul
[quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?
[quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.
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[quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Thanks. I remember his name being discussed when Redmen.com was planning CMA's staff.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Thanks. I remember his name being discussed when Redmen.com was planning CMA's staff.
Just a reminder of how low expectations were for this year. We're 9th in the Big East, and KenPom still thinks that we have been the biggest overachievers.
@rtcbigeast
Changes in KenPom rating since the start of the year:
St. John’s +24
Butler +18
Seton Hall +8
Creighton +6
Georgetown +4
DePaul +2
Villanova -9
Marquette -10
Xavier -42
Providence -48
@rtcbigeast
Changes in KenPom rating since the start of the year:
St. John’s +24
Butler +18
Seton Hall +8
Creighton +6
Georgetown +4
DePaul +2
Villanova -9
Marquette -10
Xavier -42
Providence -48
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[quote="Knight" post=374469][quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Thanks. I remember his name being discussed when Redmen.com was planning CMA's staff.[/quote]
Yeah, he got disqualified because Marillac was supporting him.
Just kidding Marillac wherever you are.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Thanks. I remember his name being discussed when Redmen.com was planning CMA's staff.[/quote]
Yeah, he got disqualified because Marillac was supporting him.
Just kidding Marillac wherever you are.
DePaul's resurgence in recruiting prowess makes you think twice about how. Hsu has a checkered history of unlucky affiliations at a minimum, and the other newer AC, Heirman, came from that top midwest prep school as head coach where Bowen's father claimed the guy paid him like $2-3K a month to send Bowen there.
Neither may be plausible, but just odd to me that DePaul and Letaio are just killing it on the trail based on their performance.
St. John's and DePaul are similar in a lot of ways. Vincentian, same size, urban etc. Still, no way DePaul should get out recruited in a smaller city, smaller non existent campus, and WinTrust is no MSG in an off beat location etc.
I don't wish trouble for DePaul but don't want them to start firing on all cylinders before St. John's. Time will tell.
Neither may be plausible, but just odd to me that DePaul and Letaio are just killing it on the trail based on their performance.
St. John's and DePaul are similar in a lot of ways. Vincentian, same size, urban etc. Still, no way DePaul should get out recruited in a smaller city, smaller non existent campus, and WinTrust is no MSG in an off beat location etc.
I don't wish trouble for DePaul but don't want them to start firing on all cylinders before St. John's. Time will tell.
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Mullins Revenge
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[quote="austour" post=374496][quote="Knight" post=374469][quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Hes on another st johns board making it completely unreadable. Thats actually how I found this board as he totally ruined the other board. Hahahahaha.
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Thanks. I remember his name being discussed when Redmen.com was planning CMA's staff.[/quote]
Yeah, he got disqualified because Marillac was supporting him.
Just kidding Marillac wherever you are.[/quote]
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Hes on another st johns board making it completely unreadable. Thats actually how I found this board as he totally ruined the other board. Hahahahaha.
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Thanks. I remember his name being discussed when Redmen.com was planning CMA's staff.[/quote]
Yeah, he got disqualified because Marillac was supporting him.
Just kidding Marillac wherever you are.[/quote]
JohnnyFever
Active member
[quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=374533][quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.[/quote]
HSU can certainly recruit but everywhere he has been there has been trouble. That will not happen with CMA, it just wont. Leito know he has to start winning sooner than later in his second gig at DePaul and desperate people do desperate things. I wish him and DePaul well but time will tell.
As for Champagnie I remind you he had 8, 11 and 5 blocks last game as an undersized freshman playing against a larger far more experienced Reed. I will take those stats any day of the week 5 stars or not. While he certainly was not a 4 or 5 star recruit he certainly played like one last game.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.[/quote]
HSU can certainly recruit but everywhere he has been there has been trouble. That will not happen with CMA, it just wont. Leito know he has to start winning sooner than later in his second gig at DePaul and desperate people do desperate things. I wish him and DePaul well but time will tell.
As for Champagnie I remind you he had 8, 11 and 5 blocks last game as an undersized freshman playing against a larger far more experienced Reed. I will take those stats any day of the week 5 stars or not. While he certainly was not a 4 or 5 star recruit he certainly played like one last game.
[quote="redmannorth" post=374535][quote="Mike Zaun" post=374533][quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.[/quote]
HSU can certainly recruit but everywhere he has been there has been trouble. That will not happen with CMA, it just wont. Leito know he has to start winning sooner than later in his second gig at DePaul and desperate people do desperate things. I wish him and DePaul well but time will tell.
As for Champagnie I remind you he had 8, 11 and 5 blocks last game as an undersized freshman playing against a larger far more experienced Reed. I will take those stats any day of the week 5 stars or not. While he certainly was not a 4 or 5 star recruit he certainly played like one last game.[/quote]
My good friend JPM114 recently reminded me that after Julian’s high school year ended he spent much of his time rehabbing an injury and thus did not spend the normal time on skill development. John also noted he feels JC’s stroke will come along. All in all, Champagnie is a keeper for sure who I believe will develop nicely. It is amazing how well he rebounds for a freshman, often battling much bigger. more mature interior players.
Will he have some ups and downs? Of course, but CMA is smart enough to see the big picture. This kid imo is a keeper and BE caliber player. Lucky Anderson took a shot at him before he prepped.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.[/quote]
HSU can certainly recruit but everywhere he has been there has been trouble. That will not happen with CMA, it just wont. Leito know he has to start winning sooner than later in his second gig at DePaul and desperate people do desperate things. I wish him and DePaul well but time will tell.
As for Champagnie I remind you he had 8, 11 and 5 blocks last game as an undersized freshman playing against a larger far more experienced Reed. I will take those stats any day of the week 5 stars or not. While he certainly was not a 4 or 5 star recruit he certainly played like one last game.[/quote]
My good friend JPM114 recently reminded me that after Julian’s high school year ended he spent much of his time rehabbing an injury and thus did not spend the normal time on skill development. John also noted he feels JC’s stroke will come along. All in all, Champagnie is a keeper for sure who I believe will develop nicely. It is amazing how well he rebounds for a freshman, often battling much bigger. more mature interior players.
Will he have some ups and downs? Of course, but CMA is smart enough to see the big picture. This kid imo is a keeper and BE caliber player. Lucky Anderson took a shot at him before he prepped.
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From what I've seen this season, Champ will be a stud for us. Kid can shoot and rebound. He's a Freshman. He'll do fine. Our lack of height has put him in situations that are outside of the game he should be expected to play. He just needs to work on strength and conditioning in the offseason.
[quote="Knight" post=374548]From what I've seen this season, Champ will be a stud for us. Kid can shoot and rebound. He's a Freshman. He'll do fine. Our lack of height has put him in situations that are outside of the game he should be expected to play. He just needs to work on strength and conditioning in the offseason.[/quote]
The young man from Brooklyn has smarts/feel for the game. He scored on to drives against DePaul one of which he used the rim to prevent his shot being blocked by making a reverse lay in. Also he has minimal turnovers (1/game), runs the floor well , and is shooting 47%--not bad for a frosh.
The young man from Brooklyn has smarts/feel for the game. He scored on to drives against DePaul one of which he used the rim to prevent his shot being blocked by making a reverse lay in. Also he has minimal turnovers (1/game), runs the floor well , and is shooting 47%--not bad for a frosh.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=374533][quote="Paultzman" post=374465][quote="Knight" post=374464][quote="Paultzman" post=374443]Source: Top 50 recruit Keon Edwards just verbally committed to DePaul. He took an official visit to campus this past weekend.
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.[/quote]
Who though Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs this year? Nice players with upside, yes many including me thought and still do but studs.
Oh and the two players who committed to DePaul are 2021 players not 2020. A lot can happen between now and then so who says they even make it on campus. DePaul had a couple of early verbal commitments fro some highly ranked players in the past year or two who decommited if I recall correctly and wound up elsewhere including 4 star Terrence Shannon (Texas Tech).
Evan Daniels
DePaul now sits with the top-rated 2021 class in America. They are the lone program to boast two Rivals150 commitments. In the fall, Ahamad Bynum, a tough scorer from the local Simeon Career Academy, gave his verbal pledge to the Blue Demons.[/quote]
Paultzman. I don't get it. What's the draw?[/quote]
Not sure what AC landed these recent guys, but should note Marc Hsu, an aggressive recruiter, is on DP staff now.[/quote]
Well he's getting big time results in a very short time with a terrible program. I'll give it more time obviously, but so far Hsu is getting much better results than our guys. Shady or not that's the business just like selling used cars. The last time we got a top 40 recruit out of HS was 5 years ago with Ponds. Rankings aren't the end all be all, but we all thought Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs in the Big East after that OOC. Turns out they couldn't do the same at this level...at least yet. We need guys who can come in from day 1 and provide equal talent to some of the better teams in this conference. To do that you need 4 star kids.[/quote]
Who though Champ, Roberts, etc. were going to be studs this year? Nice players with upside, yes many including me thought and still do but studs.
Oh and the two players who committed to DePaul are 2021 players not 2020. A lot can happen between now and then so who says they even make it on campus. DePaul had a couple of early verbal commitments fro some highly ranked players in the past year or two who decommited if I recall correctly and wound up elsewhere including 4 star Terrence Shannon (Texas Tech).
Hsu is fine for DePaul who needs to turn things around somehow, but I'm skeptical as to how long he can keep this up. Imagine if we hired him and got banned from the postseason like Georgia Tech this year. Would make for a very boring season, not to mention future scholarship penalties and all that.
That said, I am a little concerned that our recruiting, at least on paper, has seemingly tanked. It's been years since we've gotten a top 100 recruit, let alone multiple top 100 recruits as we did Lavin's/Mullin's first years. It's no coincidence that our best players (Harrison, Ponds) were top 40. Obviously it's still early, but even looking forward we seem to be going the JUCO/3 star route. I hope I'm wrong because I don't see that getting us to where we want to be- which is at least an average Big East team.
As people mentioned above we do have a few players who have outplayed their rankings and that is an excellent sign, but I don't see anyone on our roster becoming a star and stars are extremely difficult to find outside the top 50.
That said, I am a little concerned that our recruiting, at least on paper, has seemingly tanked. It's been years since we've gotten a top 100 recruit, let alone multiple top 100 recruits as we did Lavin's/Mullin's first years. It's no coincidence that our best players (Harrison, Ponds) were top 40. Obviously it's still early, but even looking forward we seem to be going the JUCO/3 star route. I hope I'm wrong because I don't see that getting us to where we want to be- which is at least an average Big East team.
As people mentioned above we do have a few players who have outplayed their rankings and that is an excellent sign, but I don't see anyone on our roster becoming a star and stars are extremely difficult to find outside the top 50.
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I don’t think that our recruiting has tanked at all. We are on our third head coach in the last few years and Anderson only started this past April. We have Posh who 100% should be a top 100 player. I’m not sure why newer rankings aren’t reflecting how well he is playing this season for an excellent team. We are also bringing in at least 2 if not more juco all americans which are quality pickups. Anderson will build relationships here and we will start landing those top 50-150 kids as well and I don’t think any of our recruits are far below that range equivalency.
Lots of teams like Creighton, Gonzaga ranked highly every year while not lakes us landing the top ranked kids. Lots of other programs do it as well. Anderson and this staff know what they’re doing. They know how to win and will land recruits. Gotta give it some time though to keep improving.
Lots of teams like Creighton, Gonzaga ranked highly every year while not lakes us landing the top ranked kids. Lots of other programs do it as well. Anderson and this staff know what they’re doing. They know how to win and will land recruits. Gotta give it some time though to keep improving.
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[quote="MCNPA" post=374584]I don’t think that our recruiting has tanked at all. We are on our third head coach in the last few years and Anderson only started this past April. We have Posh who 100% should be a top 100 player. I’m not sure why newer rankings aren’t reflecting how well he is playing this season for an excellent team. We are also bringing in at least 2 if not more juco all americans which are quality pickups. Anderson will build relationships here and we will start landing those top 50-150 kids as well and I don’t think any of our recruits are far below that range equivalency.
Lots of teams like Creighton, Gonzaga ranked highly every year while not lakes us landing the top ranked kids. Lots of other programs do it as well. Anderson and this staff know what they’re doing. They know how to win and will land recruits. Gotta give it some time though to keep improving.[/quote]
SJU class rankings of the past decade (from 247 Composite):
2010: #164 (Lavin's first year- keep in mind he inherited a full roster)
2011: #7
2012: #33
2013: #88 (low because it was a 1 man class BUT that was #31 Jordan and the only position we needed to fill)
2014: #114 (this was where everyone freaked out, though Lavin did return a full primarily senior team)
2015: #26 (Mullin's first year)
2016: #24
2017: #48
2018: #46
2019: #159 (Anderson's first year)
2020: #65
On paper Anderon's first 2 years thus far have arguably been the worst of the 11 years relative to how many minutes we've needed to fill. 2010/2013/2014 had stacked rosters and didn't require incoming recruits. That's not the case for 2019/2020 where the majority of minutes need/needed to be replaced.
My bigger concern is we don't even seem to be seriously involved with any top 100 recruits for 2020/21/22. I've been a fan since around 2010 and I can't ever remember a time where that were the case. We struck out on a ton of 4/5 stars, but we also picked up quite a few.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying our recruiting has been bad. I just feel it might not be competitive enough in the Big East and coaching can only get you so far. This is just my own (potentially misinformed) opinion, he absolutely deserves more time and also we'll need to wait to see how good Cole/Moore/Posh/Wusu actually are before judging our 2020 class.
Sorry about derailing this thread a bit. Nice pickup today by Georgetown.
Lots of teams like Creighton, Gonzaga ranked highly every year while not lakes us landing the top ranked kids. Lots of other programs do it as well. Anderson and this staff know what they’re doing. They know how to win and will land recruits. Gotta give it some time though to keep improving.[/quote]
SJU class rankings of the past decade (from 247 Composite):
2010: #164 (Lavin's first year- keep in mind he inherited a full roster)
2011: #7
2012: #33
2013: #88 (low because it was a 1 man class BUT that was #31 Jordan and the only position we needed to fill)
2014: #114 (this was where everyone freaked out, though Lavin did return a full primarily senior team)
2015: #26 (Mullin's first year)
2016: #24
2017: #48
2018: #46
2019: #159 (Anderson's first year)
2020: #65
On paper Anderon's first 2 years thus far have arguably been the worst of the 11 years relative to how many minutes we've needed to fill. 2010/2013/2014 had stacked rosters and didn't require incoming recruits. That's not the case for 2019/2020 where the majority of minutes need/needed to be replaced.
My bigger concern is we don't even seem to be seriously involved with any top 100 recruits for 2020/21/22. I've been a fan since around 2010 and I can't ever remember a time where that were the case. We struck out on a ton of 4/5 stars, but we also picked up quite a few.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying our recruiting has been bad. I just feel it might not be competitive enough in the Big East and coaching can only get you so far. This is just my own (potentially misinformed) opinion, he absolutely deserves more time and also we'll need to wait to see how good Cole/Moore/Posh/Wusu actually are before judging our 2020 class.
Sorry about derailing this thread a bit. Nice pickup today by Georgetown.
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Darn it. Paultzman beet me to it...
[URL]https://www.zagsblog.com/2020/01/28/tyler-beard-commits-to-georgetown/[/URL]
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