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man f the big 12 and these other conferences. They are actively trying to ruin college basketball forever

I hate where the sport is heading, I did The Bahamas trip this year and plan to fly to whichever region we're playing in the NCAA Tournament because I'm not confident St. John's (or similar programs) will be able to compete a few years from now. My gut says we will, whether that means joining the Big 12 (alongside a few other BE programs) or our TV partners securing the BE with a seat at the table. This news isn't a good sign for the latter, and comes off a year where we've lost our two Power challenge series. St. John's just needs to find a way to survive, whatever that may be.
 
I hate where the sport is heading, I did The Bahamas trip this year and plan to fly to whichever region we're playing in the NCAA Tournament because I'm not confident St. John's (or similar programs) will be able to compete a few years from now. My gut says we will, whether that means joining the Big 12 (alongside a few other BE programs) or our TV partners securing the BE with a seat at the table. This news isn't a good sign for the latter, and comes off a year where we've lost our two Power challenge series. St. John's just needs to find a way to survive, whatever that may be.
Big 12 is the way to go. Yormark wants the NY market for that conference
 
I hate where the sport is heading, I did The Bahamas trip this year and plan to fly to whichever region we're playing in the NCAA Tournament because I'm not confident St. John's (or similar programs) will be able to compete a few years from now. My gut says we will, whether that means joining the Big 12 (alongside a few other BE programs) or our TV partners securing the BE with a seat at the table. This news isn't a good sign for the latter, and comes off a year where we've lost our two Power challenge series. St. John's just needs to find a way to survive, whatever that may be.
I think we'll be fine. If anything, I think our next 20 years will be substantially better than our last 20 years (can it be worse?). If you tell me the Pitino era is the high watermark of those 20 years, I wouldn't doubt you -- which is also why I did the Bahamas trip. If STJ is second weekend team, I'm going to try to make it as well.

I do think, however, the (new) Big East likely already hit their high watermark. The TV contract was good enough to survive and be close enough to the big conferences, but it also lowers our national presence in significant ways. Games that would be on network television are now on Peacock. That's a massive blow. TNT/TBS can be interesting, but let's see how many games end up there. It also expires right around when the rest of the other major conferences do as well as MSG's contract for the tournament. And, maybe it's no one's fault, but the Big East is not consulted in literally anything. We're treated as equals to the A-10 for any college basketball development. UConn admin clearly sees this and has one foot out the door. All of this are huge red flags for long-term stability.

We're also no longer in regular season challenges with the Big 12 or Big 10. It's extremely clear that half of the conference are still high-majors (UConn, Marquette, Creighton, Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, us) with our budgets, and half the league simply isn't (Butler, Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul). That is also not sustainable.

I am still hoping the ACC implodes, the Big 12 commissioners are too stubborn about football-centric additions, and the BE can bolster itself by adding premiere programs. But I'm much more pessimistic today than I was last year.
 
man f the big 12 and these other conferences. They are actively trying to ruin college basketball forever

I don't disagree but it's a get on the bus or get run over situation. What are the non football conferences supposed to do? Take their ball and go home. I'm not saying Val is great. But the BE has no leverage in this situation at all. The big markets make them the most powerful of the mid majors in the eyes of those that matter. That's like being the best darts player at a blind person's convention.
 
I think we'll be fine. If anything, I think our next 20 years will be substantially better than our last 20 years (can it be worse?). If you tell me the Pitino era is the high watermark of those 20 years, I wouldn't doubt you -- which is also why I did the Bahamas trip. If STJ is second weekend team, I'm going to try to make it as well.

I do think, however, the (new) Big East likely already hit their high watermark. The TV contract was good enough to survive and be close enough to the big conferences, but it also lowers our national presence in significant ways. Games that would be on network television are now on Peacock. That's a massive blow. TNT/TBS can be interesting, but let's see how many games end up there. It also expires right around when the rest of the other major conferences do as well as MSG's contract for the tournament. And, maybe it's no one's fault, but the Big East is not consulted in literally anything. We're treated as equals to the A-10 for any college basketball development. UConn admin clearly sees this and has one foot out the door. All of this are huge red flags for long-term stability.

We're also no longer in regular season challenges with the Big 12 or Big 10. It's extremely clear that half of the conference are still high-majors (UConn, Marquette, Creighton, Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, us) with our budgets, and half the league simply isn't (Butler, Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul). That is also not sustainable.

I am still hoping the ACC implodes, the Big 12 commissioners are too stubborn about football-centric additions, and the BE can bolster itself by adding premiere programs. But I'm much more pessimistic today than I was last year.
All these changes in the landscape of college basketball is why it’s imperative that we get back to being a perennial Top 25 team under Pitino. With NYC and MSG the program , when good , has value for any of the power conferences looking to expand with certain basketball only schools. I think St. John’s, Georgetown, Villanova, UConn and Yes DePaul if they can get good , will find a home when when the music stops. UConn is UConn and has football, us and the other three are major markets and hold value if they are quality programs.
 
The college hoops game badly needs a strong and business savvy commissioner. Now that NCAA is irrelevant, letting elites manage themselves is akin to letting the fox in chicken coop. The NFL owners obviously exert great influence on Goodell, but major college sports leadership pales by comparison.
Thanks Paultz but I’m not looking
 
Rutgers...wow.

Can you imagine having two top 5 picks and not only not qualifying for the NCAAs but maybe not even qqualifying for the B10 Tournament?
See St. John's 30 years ago. Only difference was that every team in the conference made the Big East Tournament.

As far as Rutgers is concerned, our exhibition game with them turned out to be very telling. They had the talent and the flash, we had the experience and the grit (and enough talent to get by).

Very rare that an exhibition game would be so telling for how the regular season would play out, at least to this point.
 
See St. John's 30 years ago. Only difference was that every team in the conference made the Big East Tournament.

As far as Rutgers is concerned, our exhibition game with them turned out to be very telling. They had the talent and the flash, we had the experience and the grit (and enough talent to get by).

Very rare that an exhibition game would be so telling for how the regular season would play out, at least to this point.
There were some years where teams at bottom of conference were not included in conference tournament
 
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