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dk423 said:
I think the Big East schools get about 4.5 million per year from the Fox Sports media deal? Big 10 schools are about to get 60 million... The Big 12 schools are getting 30 million. The UCONN buy-out was pretty good given that context.

It will be a very interesting negotiation for this next rights deal.
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I agree a basketball only deal would always be significantly lower. As far as airtight agreements, UCONN came in as a one-off and any agreement made could have easily been at least as airtight as the league wide deal done by the ACC.

It was way too low, and the way to know this is almost from day one they began lobbying to move on again. UCONNs plan, which has been out in the open all along, was use the Big East to rebuild a basketball brand that was decaying and then get back out. Since the Big East was doing quite fine at ten members, and there wasn’t as much as a whisper any of them wanted out when UCONN was readmitted, UCONN was not the party with leverage.

Look at it this way. When we brought them back the pro-UCONN crowd cited future Fox negotiations. Now it’s time to negotiate with Fox and their actions are doing nothing to help the Big East. They are and always have, considered themselves above a league with a bunch of “mid-majors,” which is exactly how their fans refer to their current league partners.

They badly want out and never really wanted in. The sooner it is done the better because it’s inevitable.
 
I don't know how many of these accounts are trustworthy, but if ASU is really taking their time to decide then I wouldn't count on UConn getting an invite anytime soon. They won't be offered an invite before the dust settles on the Pac.
 
IDRAFT said:
I agree a basketball only deal would always be significantly lower. As far as airtight agreements, UCONN came in as a one-off and any agreement made could have easily been at least as airtight as the league wide deal done by the ACC.

It was way too low, and the way to know this is almost from day one they began lobbying to move on again. UCONNs plan, which has been out in the open all along, was use the Big East to rebuild a basketball brand that was decaying and then get back out. Since the Big East was doing quite fine at ten members, and there wasn’t as much as a whisper any of them wanted out when UCONN was readmitted, UCONN was not the party with leverage.

Look at it this way. When we brought them back the pro-UCONN crowd cited future Fox negotiations. Now it’s time to negotiate with Fox and their actions are doing nothing to help the Big East. They are and always have, considered themselves above a league with a bunch of “mid-majors,” which is exactly how their fans refer to their current league partners.

They badly want out and never really wanted in. The sooner it is done the better because it’s inevitable.
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Not to defend UConn fans, but I think most of them enjoy being in the Big East. The conference realignment board on Boneyard doesn't represent the average UConn fan, nor does some Twitter accounts. I truly think most fans would be less happy playing teams in middle America as opposed to teams they share a history and geography with. There's a lot of fans going "ugh, I guess we'd accept an invite due to the money", but it's not at all comparable to their attitude when they were in the AAC. I'd wager that most of them like the Big East.
 
Ohio St, Mich. and Penn St stand to get 90 million annually if the league doesn’t expand further. If more teams are added that figure will go up and if Norte Dame join they will get over a hundred million.
ND gets 30 million annually under current contract and that will increase but they realize they will have a terrible time competing with teams making 90.
 
SJU85 said:
Not an apples to apples comparison. FSU’s buyout is so high due to the what some feel is an airtight ACC TV rights deal that ends after the 2035/2036 school year. In short, under that deal, If a team from the ACC leaves, their TV rights does not go with them to be incorporated into their new conference, the rights are retained by the ACC. In order to get out, FSU and whomever will have to pay through the nose not for the regular buyout but to get out of the TV deal.

While I have stated on this Board I wish UConn had a higher buyout amount and the top amount should have been for two to three additional years before it is reduced, no way was it ever going to be in the same area code as what FSU is rumored likely to pay. The BE TV deal ends after the 2024/2025 school year, is not as lucrative and the BE does not have their own TV network.
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FSU officials have nobody to blame but themselves. FSU and Clemson had so much leverage and no reason to enter into such a contract with a conference barely staying above water. ACC football is astonishingly weak after the top 3-4 teams.

Everyone has seen 2-3 mega conference coming for 20 years and nobody ever thought the ACC would be one.
 
ADORAZ said:
Not to defend UConn fans, but I think most of them enjoy being in the Big East. The conference realignment board on Boneyard doesn't represent the average UConn fan, nor does some Twitter accounts. I truly think most fans would be less happy playing teams in middle America as opposed to teams they share a history and geography with. There's a lot of fans going "ugh, I guess we'd accept an invite due to the money", but it's not at all comparable to their attitude when they were in the AAC. I'd wager that most of them like the Big East.
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I have several good friends who are UConn alums and they all love the Big East…especially MSG and the tournament.

A Big 12 invite is more about survival for the school by trying to revive football.
 
I personally think Stanford, Cal, Washington, Utah, Arizona State, and whoever isn't the first backstabber between Oregon and Arizona + Duke, UNC, Virginia, Wake Forest, Ga. Tech, and Miami would be a hell of a conference.

It should actually be pretty easy to not completely drop the ball, even working off the premise that the Clemson/FSU rumors are true and that SEC probably seems like they'd try to enter North Carolina and Virginia via State and Tech.

Rest of the leftovers can go to Big 12.
 
ADORAZ said:
Yeah criticism of Val isn't really fair, she's done a great job with the conference and hasn't made any mistakes. Challenges vs the Big Ten and Big 12, tons of exposure on Fox, 3 National Championships in one decade, kept up with the times with scheduling/NIL/etc. to keep us a Power conference. I guess some could consider UConn a mistake, but in fairness the Big 12 wasn't interested in them back then (different commissioner), and the ACC GOR looked to have things locked down for more than a decade, too. Things may be changing in the landscape, but the most important thing is we didn't panic after one of our down years by adding A10 bloat.
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Sorry, I gave you a mulligan after “Yeah criticism of Val isn’t fair.”

But I stopped reading after “she’s done a great job with the conference.”
 
kranmars said:
Sorry, I gave you a mulligan after “Yeah criticism of Val isn’t fair.”

But I stopped reading after “she’s done a great job with the conference.”
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What has she done wrong, then? Most commissioners, such as the previous Big East's / current AAC's Aresco, the previous Big 12's, and current Pac 12's are awful. I'd take Val any day over them. ACC's hasn't done anything either besides angering all of the top schools and essentially holding them hostage.

After that you only have the SEC and Big Ten, who have the easiest job out there given how valuable their top schools are. They can just pick and choose who to add. Oh yeah, and despite that neither of those conferences have won a basketball championship in many years/decades, while the Big East has won 3 of the last 7. Almost 50%. We also have the best attended conference tournament and have fended off the Big Ten and ACC from MSG. So, why again is Val a bad commissioner?
 
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ADORAZ said:
What has she done wrong, then? Most commissioners, such as the previous Big East's / current AAC's Aresco, the previous Big 12's, and current Pac 12's are awful. I'd take Val any day over them. ACC's hasn't done anything either besides angering all of the top schools and essentially holding them hostage.

After that you only have the SEC and Big Ten, who have the easiest job out there given how valuable their top schools are. They can just pick and choose who to add. Oh yeah, and despite that neither of those conferences have won a basketball championship in many years/decades, while the Big East has won 3 of the last 7. Almost 50%. We also have the best attended conference tournament and have fended off the Big Ten and ACC from MSG. So, why again is Val a bad commissioner?
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She has been a wonderful commissioner for UConn. Had a big hand in returning that program to prominence. Now they want to leave again.

I hope Ackerman understood that UConn would look to bolt again if the opportunity came up was a near certainty.

Also, I was being sarcastic about how I stopped reading your post. I disagree with your opinion, but you are a very good poster. No harm meant.
 
ADORAZ said:
Yeah criticism of Val isn't really fair, she's done a great job with the conference and hasn't made any mistakes. Challenges vs the Big Ten and Big 12, tons of exposure on Fox, 3 National Championships in one decade, kept up with the times with scheduling/NIL/etc. to keep us a Power conference. I guess some could consider UConn a mistake, but in fairness the Big 12 wasn't interested in them back then (different commissioner), and the ACC GOR looked to have things locked down for more than a decade, too. Things may be changing in the landscape, but the most important thing is we didn't panic after one of our down years by adding A10 bloat.
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You’re giving Val credit for a team winning a Championship? Didn’t realize she was still coaching.

I guess the positive is she’s better than PAC 12 commish. We got that going for us.
 
kranmars said:
She has been a wonderful commissioner for UConn. Had a big hand in returning that program to prominence. Now they want to leave again.

I hope Ackerman understood that UConn would look to bolt again if the opportunity came up was a near certainty.

Also, I was being sarcastic about how I stopped reading your post. I disagree with your opinion, but you are a very good poster. No harm meant.
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UConn coming back and then potentially leaving again does nothing to harm the Big East conference. In fact the conference only stands to profit from it in multiple ways.
 
room112 said:
UConn coming back and then potentially leaving again does nothing to harm the Big East conference. In fact the conference only stands to profit from it in multiple ways.
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Yes, but I enjoy being spiteful. Don't take that away from me.
 
room112 said:
UConn coming back and then potentially leaving again does nothing to harm the Big East conference. In fact the conference only stands to profit from it in multiple ways.
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UConn did not care one bit about what happened to the Big East when they left the first time. The conference because of the other strong members.

Why should anyone care about rehabilitating UConn when they have zero loyalty and will jump when a better opportunity comes along. UConn proved it needs the BE much more than the other way around.
 
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