Around College Basketball 2019/20 Season

[quote="Mike Zaun" post=395228]It would render us mid major if they break off in hoops too. On one hand I can't see them leaving us out including UConn, Nova, G'Town, etc. But on the other, their greed is way more important than tradition to them. If this happens for hoops too SJU will cease to exist.[/quote]

Because nobody could even imagine a world where everybody that is not power five football commits to a regional tournament that ends up in MSG. Maybe we could call it the National Invitation Tournament.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=395238]Goodman

There are 9 active coaches 70-plus:

Jim Boeheim: 75
Cliff Ellis: 74
Mike Krzyzewski: 73
Dan D’Antoni: 73
Leonard Hamilton: 72
Fran O’Hanlon: 71
Jim Larranaga: 70
Roy Willams: 70
Bob McKillop: 70[/quote]

A tad ACC heavy
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=395228]It would render us mid major if they break off in hoops too. On one hand I can't see them leaving us out including UConn, Nova, G'Town, etc. But on the other, their greed is way more important than tradition to them. If this happens for hoops too SJU will cease to exist.[/quote]

I dont know about you Mike but when I watch the NCAA Tournament I am always rooting for the underdog, and I am told that by many others. Watching the 15,14,13 and 12 seeded teams win or try to win is the greatest and most exciting part of college ball. To see Duke play Michigan State is just another game and there are many pre conference games like that every season.
As for rendering us mid-major I have felt that is who we are for the most part since the Pittsburgh scandal.
Other than Lavin's first season where we beat 5 or 6 ranked teams we dont deserve to be regarded as better than mid major. This is the first season I have really looked forward to in a long time where I like the product we are going to put on the floor as well as the coaching staff. I pray there is a bball season.
 
[quote="lawmanfan" post=395251][quote="Paultzman" post=395238]Goodman

There are 9 active coaches 70-plus:

Jim Boeheim: 75
Cliff Ellis: 74
Mike Krzyzewski: 73
Dan D’Antoni: 73
Leonard Hamilton: 72
Fran O’Hanlon: 71
Jim Larranaga: 70
Roy Willams: 70
Bob McKillop: 70[/quote]

A tad ACC heavy[/quote]

I had absolutely no clue Cliff Ellis was still coaching.
 
This Just In: The NCAA Board of Governors has directed Divisions I, II and III to determine the status of their fall season by no later than August 21. “The board expressed serious concerns about the continuing high levels of COVID-19 infection in many parts of the nation.”

From the NCAA on fall athletes: “All student-athletes must be allowed to opt out of participation due to concerns about contracting COVID-19. If a college athlete chooses to opt out, that individual’s athletics scholarship commitment must be honored by the college or university.”

Per John Fanta
 
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This Just In: The NCAA Board of Governors has directed Divisions I, II and III to determine the status of their fall season by no later than August 21. “The board expressed serious concerns about the continuing high levels of COVID-19 infection in many parts of the nation.”

From the NCAA on fall athletes: “All student-athletes must be allowed to opt out of participation due to concerns about contracting COVID-19. If a college athlete chooses to opt out, that individual’s athletics scholarship commitment must be honored by the college or university.”

Per John Fanta

But I'm guessing the player's year of 'eligibility' would be 'lost'...depending on the player?
 
Louisville announces that it has suspended all activities for four athletic teams after 29 positive COVID-19 tests linked to an off-campus party.
@CardChronicle
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=395328]Louisville announces that it has suspended all activities for four athletic teams after 29 positive COVID-19 tests linked to an off-campus party.
@CardChronicle[/quote]

I hate to come off as a grumpy old man shaking my fist at subsequent generations and yelling at clouds -- mostly because I'm not even 50 yet -- but this thing is never going away until young people take it seriously. It better not be all basketball and football players, because those guys can get laid any time they want. I'll cut soccer players some slack, but still.
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=395224][quote="SJU85" post=395214]From the article:

"A tournament without a basketball-centric power from outside the football oligarch — no Gonzaga, no Butler, no Connecticut, no Memphis?"

Here's the type of stuff that pisses me off and the article loses credibility. How do you mention those schools including two Big East Schools in that sentence without mentioning Villanova who has won two national titles since 2016?

Yes there are some big decisions coming up and I suspect eventually the Big 5 will break away from the NCAA (maybe sooner than I thought)[/quote]

SJU 85, do you think the Power 5 will walk away from this?

NCAA extends tournament deal with CBS, Turner through 2032 for $8.8 billion. The men's NCAA basketball tournament will remain on CBS and Turner through 2032 thanks to an eight-year, $8.8 billion extension announced Tuesday.

I think they break away for football only.[/quote]

If they breakaway in mass for all sports I would not be surprised if there is a clause where the contract can be renegotiated or terminated. Without the Big 5 the NCAA Tournament is not as attractive from a financial standpoint. Big 5 schools could get a lot of money for their own tournament.
 
Rothstein

Sources: Several power conferences in college basketball have had preliminary discussions about holding games next season in a "bubble" type setting. 

This is one of many potential options on the table, but one that gains traction with student athletes taking classes online.

The Big East and Big Ten are two conferences that have discussed using a bubble for basketball this season, per sources
Goodman
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=395374]Rothstein

Sources: Several power conferences in college basketball have had preliminary discussions about holding games next season in a "bubble" type setting. 

This is one of many potential options on the table, but one that gains traction with student athletes taking classes online.

The Big East and Big Ten are two conferences that have discussed using a bubble for basketball this season, per sources
Goodman[/quote]

Trying to understand how this would even work. This really doesn't seem like a beneficial situation for the kids to be in. Also curious to what they'd identify as the bubble sites and how the kids would be clustered around them.
 
[quote="Room112" post=395376][quote="Paultzman" post=395374]Rothstein

Sources: Several power conferences in college basketball have had preliminary discussions about holding games next season in a "bubble" type setting. 

This is one of many potential options on the table, but one that gains traction with student athletes taking classes online.

The Big East and Big Ten are two conferences that have discussed using a bubble for basketball this season, per sources
Goodman[/quote]

Trying to understand how this would even work. This really doesn't seem like a beneficial situation for the kids to be in. Also curious to what they'd identify as the bubble sites and how the kids would be clustered around them.[/quote]

It may be the way to go to have a season. I wonder 'where' these bubble sites would be, and what type of 'campus' facilities would be available and for how many teams. Guessing there are arenas in PA, NY, CT, WI, OH that might be workable.
Would the BE separate into East and West until the BET?
Not ideal, but might be 'best case'.
 
[quote="Room112" post=395376][quote="Paultzman" post=395374]Rothstein

Sources: Several power conferences in college basketball have had preliminary discussions about holding games next season in a "bubble" type setting. 

This is one of many potential options on the table, but one that gains traction with student athletes taking classes online.

The Big East and Big Ten are two conferences that have discussed using a bubble for basketball this season, per sources
Goodman[/quote]

Trying to understand how this would even work. This really doesn't seem like a beneficial situation for the kids to be in. Also curious to what they'd identify as the bubble sites and how the kids would be clustered around them.[/quote]

I, too, am having difficulty understanding this concept. In the NBA and NHL, the players are in bubbles and are being quarantined for a shortened playoff run. There's no way that this should be done for "student athletes" for an entire college basketball season.
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=395378][quote="Room112" post=395376][quote="Paultzman" post=395374]Rothstein

Sources: Several power conferences in college basketball have had preliminary discussions about holding games next season in a "bubble" type setting. 

This is one of many potential options on the table, but one that gains traction with student athletes taking classes online.

The Big East and Big Ten are two conferences that have discussed using a bubble for basketball this season, per sources
Goodman[/quote]

Trying to understand how this would even work. This really doesn't seem like a beneficial situation for the kids to be in. Also curious to what they'd identify as the bubble sites and how the kids would be clustered around them.[/quote]

I, too, am having difficulty understanding this concept. In the NBA and NHL, the players are in bubbles and are being quarantined for a shortened playoff run. There's no way that this should be done for "student athletes" for an entire college basketball season.[/quote]

I agree, 'quality f life' would be an issue and something that must be addressed. But, 'modified' seasons that have been mentioned limited play t conference games (primarily), 'empty' arenas, and online and/or alternative class schedules
That 'vision' does not seem markedly different from implementing 'bubble concepts' with online classes in some kind of 'campus atmosphere'...and would seem a safer concept for players and coaches.
Otherwise, a 2020-21 season is looking more unlikely, and while us fans would be bummed, think about how major D1 college basketball players would feel about 'losing' a season.
Again, no proposal is ideal or even 'good', but this may be the best chance to have a 'safe' season.
 
Of all the athletes in nba, mlb, soccer etc that are testing positive, are any of them actually sick? All I hear are reports of guys testing positive, but I never hear an update on how any of these guys are doing. Are they all in the hospital on a ventilator? are they having minor flu like symptoms? are they not sick at all?

To me this is important. If 90% of these guys are testing positive but have 0 symptoms, or they have flu like symptoms for a week or so, then play the season as is. If guys are dying or are seriously ill and being hospitalized, then cancel the season.
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=395381]Of all the athletes in nba, mlb, soccer etc that are testing positive, are any of them actually sick? All I hear are reports of guys testing positive, but I never hear an update on how any of these guys are doing. Are they all in the hospital on a ventilator? are they having minor flu like symptoms? are they not sick at all?

To me this is important. If 90% of these guys are testing positive but have 0 symptoms, or they have flu like
symptoms for a week or so, then play the season as is. If guys are dying or are seriously ill and being hospitalized, then cancel the season.[/quote]

It's not just the players, it is who they interact with, coaches, trainers, parents and others. Similarly with kids going back to school. Can't believe we have to repeat this again, again and again.
 
[quote="shamsman2" post=395383][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=395381]Of all the athletes in nba, mlb, soccer etc that are testing positive, are any of them actually sick? All I hear are reports of guys testing positive, but I never hear an update on how any of these guys are doing. Are they all in the hospital on a ventilator? are they having minor flu like symptoms? are they not sick at all?

To me this is important. If 90% of these guys are testing positive but have 0 symptoms, or they have flu like
symptoms for a week or so, then play the season as is. If guys are dying or are seriously ill and being hospitalized, then cancel the season.[/quote]

It's not just the players, it is who they interact with, coaches, trainers, parents and others. Similarly with kids going back to school. Can't believe we have to repeat this again, again and again.[/quote]

Ok, so throw in the trainers and coaches as well. Are they very sick, mildly sick, not sick at all etc?

If the majority of people are not getting very sick, then play the season and of course take precaution with any high risk people you are interacting w/ outside of basketball like all of us are doing now.

But if these players, trainers, coaches are consistantly being hospitalized or dying, shut it down.

But still I would like to hear if anyone knows how sick these positive tested players are getting. Lets use the Marlins. they have like 20 players test positive. how sick are these players? are they sick at all?
 
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