I am sorry if my point came off the wrong way, and I actually appreciate Dinkins backing me up haha. I am obviously going to root for Moe, no questions asked. It is good for the program if he succeeds, and I know Lavin is going to use the pr well. Like Dinkins I don't love the NBA game and don't follow it too well, but I watch enough and go to enough Knicks games (bunch of buddies have tickets) that I do not think he is ready. I also really don't believe Lavin thinks he is either. The great thing about Lavin is his ability to handle any situation and he is smart enough to know how to take this situation and make it look great. I would actually be shocked and question Lavin if he really thought Moe is NBA ready. Here is what my biggest problem is and a few of you touched on it is that look at guys like Jeremy Lamb, Dion Waiters, and the list goes on and on, guys who go back to school that would get drafted because they understand it is good to get another year of both the school education, the basketball education, and the social education that you can never get back. I also watch enough NBA and college ball (I follow very closely) and don't really think Moe is that good, sorry I don't. He is no where near some of the other 2,3,4s out there, he really got his rep off a few monster games against some weak defenses (Duke) and it is sad that he is giving up a year of fun with his friends and winning and having his hometown embrace him for something I really don't think is there, and I really believe the wrong people are pushing him. However, I am not him, my life cannot be compared to him, and I wish him luck.
PS to clarify the respect thing, that came out the wrong way, I don't think respect was the right word I said it in an emotional post and I think it is hard to put myself in his shoes, but I have had friends in this same situation and to me, 1 year of school when you really aren't a sure fire cant miss prospect is a bad decision in general. 1 year is for the Kyrie Irvings of the world, I don't really think any player should go after one year unless they are going to be an impact player because nothing really will change in 2.
That's one of the more thoughtful responses on the site. It's rare that people clarify themselves or admit to letting their emotions dictate how they phrase something.
And on second read, I agree with most of what you're saying. I just think (like you) that Moe isn't a great player, but he'll find a spot on a team in the NBA. And regardless of whether he comes out this year or two years from now Moe's future is probably as a mid first round pick, and eventually a decent career as an 8th man on a team somewhere. And if he wants that career to start now? Eh, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. He obviously doesn't value the college experience and education as much as you and I, but that's ok. Doesn't make him wrong or right.
Thanks. I think in the end of the day, we all love St. John's basketball, for better or worse. We might not always agree with each other, we might not agree with the staff, and we might not like a player or two, but absent anything egregious, I really believe posters should not attack other posters. The reason we come to this site is for information and to share our collective thoughts on SJU. I am there are varying degrees of fanhood, where people live, and their connection to the school, but for posters like me, and many of you I assume, SJU basketball really isn't talked about a lot. My friends all love sports, but when it comes to SJU bball, they don't care or know anything except for little things I tell them. I think if we all use this board for its intended purpose it will be better in the long run. It is intellectually stimulating to debate and argue sports, we all do it with our friends, and colleagues, but I think over the internet some things get taken the wrong way. Just because posters think Moe mad a bad choice doesn't make us bad people, fans, or anti-SJU/Moe. Just because posters think he made a great choice doesn't make them not knowledgeable. There are pros and cons to his choice, everyone has an opinion, and the great thing about this board is we can all express it.
Now, onto Lavin's Ark, lets fill it up with 2 of everything!
