Anderson - is he really the guy ?

[RedStormNC]

Maybe St. James University would be willing  pick up the remaining years on the contract

(Sorry, bad flashback  from his initial press conf....writing was on the wall at that moment when he botched his new employer name)...lol.

 

[nycfan]

Not sure how this is not the best job in America.  Lose 75% of your team to transfer, replace them with even less talent, have recruiting classes ranked at or near the bottom of the BE, schedule cream puffs to improve record and get massive extension.

 

[jr49]

I never complain about the only team i root for and always hope for the best. I was upset when I thought Lavin left us short of players. I thought that was neglect. I figured we had a chance to be good this year. When I got a look at this team I felt like someone took a mallet to the roster. What coulda went on in the locker room to want players to run for the hills. These guys dont even bother to box out. I cant figure it out. HELP ME.

 

[Andrew]

I had optimism when I was delusional enough to think we would get Champs brother or Jose Alvarado but both those guys have seen the court in NBA games and why would they want to be here.

 

[SJU61982]

Just remember, he was fired from his last job, because he did not win enough.  Coaches usually don't get big-time opportunities again, after that.  In fact, I can only think of three in recent years, and we've hired two of them (Lavin).  The other is Ben Howland at Miss. St., which, when combined with Lavin, may tell you something about UCLA.   

Give me a coach who was fired for cheating.  At least I'll get some enjoyment before the sanctions hit.             

Shaka Smart at Marquette, Rick Barnes at Tennessee.  Plenty of others                          

You're right about Barnes, but technically, Smart left Texas for Marquette.  Granted, he did so before the iron got too hot.

Also, Barnes and Smart were both Texas, so, like Lavin and Howland, it probably says more about that school, than it does about the ones who hired them.

 

[QueensBall]

I thought this was an embarrassing loss. The performance reflects terribly on Anderson. While
I agree with almost every criticism of him and the team from this game, I don’t fully agree with some of these hot takes on the staff’s overall performance of 2+ years or the impending implosion of this team’s season. 

One of the few things I know is that things generally aren’t as bad as they seem in their worst moments or as good as they seem in their best moments. This feels like the lowest point of the Anderson tenure so far so I’m going to choose this moment to say that I’m not out on Anderson at all. I’m not guaranteeing a great season or happy ending to Anderson’s time here but I don’t think this game is the bellwether of failure that seems to be the consensus right now. I understand I’m in the minority here.

 

[Andrew]

I thought this was an embarrassing loss. The performance reflects terribly on Anderson. While
I agree with almost every criticism of him and the team from this game, I don’t fully agree with some of these hot takes on the staff’s overall performance of 2+ years or the impending implosion of this team’s season. 

One of the few things I know is that things generally aren’t as bad as they seem in their worst moments or as good as they seem in their best moments. This feels like the lowest point of the Anderson tenure so far so I’m going to choose this moment to say that I’m not out on Anderson at all. I’m not guaranteeing a great season or happy ending to Anderson’s time here but I don’t think this game is the bellwether of failure that seems to be the consensus right now. I understand I’m in the minority here.

A lot of good points but the only thing that would have been worse would have been of Champs played and we still lost.

 

[beast of the east]

I posted just before the game that I thought today without Champ offered more risk than silver linings and it could be a trap game.

We still should have won, but today did show that after champ, posh, and maybe Mathis,  we have mostly mid major players, big conference underperformers, and not ready for prime time freshmen.

It's just clear without JC we are a pretty bad team right now.

 

[RJGBOOTSY]

I do not believe Anderson is the type of coach that will succeed in todays college basketball environment. He will win low 20 games in some years but never truly move beyond that total or advance beyond a single tourney win. Which btw I would gladly take. I want to win a BE Championship and get to a final four (Just like the AD). I hope I am wrong. Please prove me wrong!!! Coach

 

[MainMan]

I had optimism when I was delusional enough to think we would get Champs brother or Jose Alvarado but both those guys have seen the court in NBA games and why would they want to be here.

 Oh man, I remember those days. 

That was when I thought that we'd be okay despite losing all our players. 

 

[monte]

I too don't think the sky is falling because of this loss, maybe because I don't think we're all that good a team even with Champ. Nor am I all that disappointed in the staff, probably because I was never as high on them as many of you have been. I think CMA is a good man and a good representative of the school. Much as Lou and Norm were. I think he's a very good motivator and an average(or less) game coach. To date, I thinks he's the worst recruiter we've had of any coach after Lou. And with the landscape  having changed, I am extremely concerned about his future recruiting and player retention. IMO if he can recruit at a high enough level, he will consistently win here. If he can't, he won't. 

 

[RJGBOOTSY]

I too don't think the sky is falling because of this loss, maybe because I don't think we're all that good a team even with Champ. Nor am I all that disappointed in the staff, probably because I was never as high on them as many of you have been. I think CMA is a good man and a good representative of the school. Much as Lou and Norm were. I think he's a very good motivator and an average(or less) game coach. To date, I thinks he's the worst recruiter we've had of any coach after Lou. And with the game having changed, I am extremely concerned about his future recruiting and player retention. IMO if he can recruit at a high enough level, he will consistently win here. If he doesn't, he won't. 

I agree he is a good man and a good rep. I think he has proven to be an average motivator overall when you consider his track record at SJU. He needs to recruit more skillful offensive players and then toughen them up to fit his system. ( I am not a fan of his defense first at all cost position and pressing/trapping)
 

 

[rcatalano]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

 

[L J S A]

Maybe start with his nephew who is associate head coach. Not sure what he really does.  At least Macon and Vetrone are recruiters and have coached.

Nepotism perhaps?




 

Sorry to say but I have asked myself about his nephew and discussed same with other respected posters on this board and no one has a clue why he is on staff. If he was so good why hasn’t another school offered him a head coaching position ? Are the other 350 ADs blind as to his talent. 
i don’t see him bringing in any recruits of substance nor do I see him providing  any proper in game coaching. Hopefully Mike Cragg has a good talk with CMA about his nephew, and sooner than later. 

Move on from him and hire Book. Consider it a test run to see if forgiveness works.

Then we can move on to an even bigger case of forgiveness to fill a head coaching vacancy if it ever comes to that.

 

[SJU61982]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

Unless we move the school out of the NYC area, he will never come back.

I do think his best fit is as a top assistant (his record as head coach at LMU was not good), but let's give Lavin credit for recognizing that he needed Dunlap, or someone like that, in order to have success.  Sort of like Torre and Zimmer, they were perfect compliments to each other, but you rarely see assistant coaches get hired for reasons like that.

After Dunlap left (and you can't fault anybody for that - the opportunity he got was too good, plus he hated New York), Lavin tried again with Whitesell.  Didn't work out, but I appreciate that he again went for someone who covered his weaknesses.

 

[L J S A]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

NBA job with no recruiting grind means you'd have to really go nuts with an offer. And if you are going to go nuts with cash, you'd go a different direction. And this is from someone who loves the guy.

 

[beast of the east]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

Not picking on you but Dunlop makes tires, Dunlap coaches.
Jeff Mullins played for the Warriors and Duke, Chris Mullin played at St.John's.
Looie Carnesecca coached at St. John's, not louie Carnaseca.

Dunlap had one good season here, one bad season as HC, then departed. Norm was such a bad coach that I'm not even that Dunlap was so brilliant or Lavin doesn't get credit for playing the right guys.

 

[SJU61982]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

Not picking on you but Dunlop makes tires, Dunlap coaches.
Jeff Mullins played for the Warriors and Duke, Chris Mullin played at St.John's.
Looie Carnesecca coached at St. John's, not louie Carnaseca.

Dunlap had one good season here, one bad season as HC, then departed. Norm was such a bad coach that I'm not even that Dunlap was so brilliant or Lavin doesn't get credit for playing the right guys.

Dunlap was brought in to be bad cop, to Lavin's good cop, and to help Lavin with strategy (as I said earlier, kudos to Lavin for knowing his weaknesses - Anderson doesn't seem to understand that). 

The problem was, the year he had to coach the team, they were all freshman.  Their first thought was "this is not what I signed up for", because it wasn't.  He was probably too negative for a young team like that.

Plus, it was known that he did not like New York, and would leave at the first good opportunity he got (and he got a great opportunity).

I was a bit surprised that he did not have a better record at LMU, but I'm sure his negativity rubbed some people the wrong way.  Plus, I'm sure he couldn't "fake it" for recruits, and tell them how great they would be for the program, so they either didn't sign, or got turned off, and transferred out.  That kind of honesty is great in life, but maybe not in the college hoops world.

FWIW, he's now an assistant with the Milwaukee Bucks, so he has an NBA Championship ring.  I'm sure he's a great compliment to Budenholzer.  That's probably the right fit, for a guy like him.

 

[paultzman]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

Mike Dunlap retired and is now supervising the National  Sherpa Mountain Climbing Team in Tibet 

 

[SJU61982]

Somebody, anybody should get on the phone with Mike Dunlop and try to get him back here! Once the kids bought into his system they were a joy to watch! That was basketball not this sh-t we are witnessing! Remember when those kids knocked off 4 Top TEN TEAMS in as many weeks! Maybe he’s available!

Mike Dunlap retired and is now supervising the National  Sherpa Mountain Climbing Team in Tibet 

Actually, he's an assistant with the Bucks, and got a championship ring last year.  The best fit for him is as an assistant to a coach who struggles with Xs and Os, like Lavin.