Anderson - is he really the guy ?

[beast of the east]

“Win national championships” LOL.

How about we make it to the semi-finals of the BE tournament before we start putting out these unattainable goals?

We’re fans and we’re allowed to voice our opinion. I could care less if it’s counterproductive. That’s not my problem. That’s the idiots they put in charge of the school and program’s problem. 

Put a better product on the court and upgrade the facilities if you want people singing the schools praises all the time. I’m literally embarrassed to take family members to games at Carnasecca because it’s such a dump. 









 

Dr. Johnnie,  Carnasecca?  Really?  Literally embarrassed?   Why would you bring family to a place you are literally embarrassed to be?   I'm literally embarrassed that CVS has cut starting salaries by over 20% because of the glut of entry level PharmD's produced over the past 10 years.  I'm embarrassed that the entry level PharmD carries no monetary weight in the market place and in fact has resulted in lower salaries.  That's a problem to be embarrassed about in my opinion, not at a basketball facility that is plenty good enough for my family.   I'd much rather see the university spend $80 million on a sparkling new health sciences building and two new desperately needed healthcare professions than build a new arena where we can't draw 5000 fans.  I'm not literally embarrassed by low attendance, but know it doesn't help build better facilities.  But that's just me

The school rolls in 45k per student per year and gets plenty of donations from alumni, myself included. 

They can at least put seat-backs on all the seats in Carnasecca so that when I take my dad to a game he doesn’t strain his back so badly that he can’t walk straight for a week afterwards. 

Also building a new health sciences building won’t help entry level pharmacists salaries go  up. It’ll just flood the market with more under-qualified grads who shouldn’t even be in the profession in the first place. 

Apologies to all because it doesn't belong in this thread.   Happy to take it private:

1. The school does not get plenty of donations.  SJU giving rate is 4%, and the college of pharmacy donations are below that.

2. More seatbacks in Carnesecca would be really nice, but it cuts down capacity significantly and those seat tickets subsequently cost a lot more.   If we were all seatbacks, capacity may come closer to 4500, which is too small for a Big East program, and the price would rise 50% or more..   You may be able to find seatback seats on Stubhub, but in the meantime, Garden games all have seatbacks.    Reminder that many top notch college programs have bleacher seats and sell out, including Cameron at Duke.

3. The academic credentials among pharmacy students is an all-time high, average about 1450 SAT, making them by far the elite students of the university.   SJU isn't the problem flooding the market.  Seven or eight years ago we were one of 88 pharmacy schools in the US.  Today there are about 145.  St. Albert's Hall is antiquated, and the new building is well designed and can support all of our health profession degrees.   There is not an anticipated increase in pharmacy students.   It's hard to justify a 6 year extremely rigorous program with starting salaries at about $100K, when 4 year nursing grads start at close to 90K in the NYC area.    We need expanded roles for pharmacists in our healthcare system beyond providing immunizations.   

PM me if you would like to discuss more.   Apologies to all.

 

[Las Vegan]

First step, for me, would be to avoid playing Wednesday night, in the Big East Tournament, for two years in a row. 

Huh?  We finished fourth in the conference last year

Huh?   "two years in a row.'

 

 

[beast of the east]

Now I don't want what I said earlier obfuscated.   I know for a fact that both Mikes want to win a championship here.    They've never proclaimed this publicly, but some of you on here think it's appropriate to mock that sentiment.   These are the same people, mind you, who bitched that Lavin could give a crap about being better than mediocre, complained that Mullin cashed a paycheck without working hard, and Roberts merely was trying to survive and keep his job.

Here are two guys who actually have had their programs cut down the nets by winning it all, and for them, winning a tourney game or even two, isn't the Holy Grail.   They want to win it all, and so do I.   They know what that takes, and I haven't a clue.   If anyone thinks that's worthy of mocking, maybe you deserve a shitty team struggling to crack .500 in league play or worse.   I tell you what they don't do - sit around and post messages about how a team 35 years ago went to the Final Four and got spanked.

 

[IDRAFT]

Now I don't want what I said earlier obfuscated.   I know for a fact that both Mikes want to win a championship here.    They've never proclaimed this publicly, but some of you on here think it's appropriate to mock that sentiment.   These are the same people, mind you, who bitched that Lavin could give a crap about being better than mediocre, complained that Mullin cashed a paycheck without working hard, and Roberts merely was trying to survive and keep his job.

Here are two guys who actually have had their programs cut down the nets by winning it all, and for them, winning a tourney game or even two, isn't the Holy Grail.   They want to win it all, and so do I.   They know what that takes, and I haven't a clue.   If anyone thinks that's worthy of mocking, maybe you deserve a shitty team struggling to crack .500 in league play or worse.   I tell you what they don't do - sit around and post messages about how a team 35 years ago went to the Final Four and got spanked.

I won't mock it but do think it's a stretch goal at best and highly unlikely because it is not a level playing field and the football schools have a huge advantage. Which is why my individual expectations as a fan are lower. But good for them, I will certainly not be upset if my expectations are ever exceeded.

 

 

[RedStormNC]

Champ out or not,, after Pitt debacle, I'm convinced that Anderson will never win us a big game.

 

 

[PharmDJohnnie11]

Hire Pitino and end the madness. This guy stinks as a coach. His calling card is he’s consistent at being slightly better than mediocre. The talent level on this team sucks, the coaching sucks and his recruiting is awful. 

 

[SJU85]

Hire Pitino and end the madness. This guy stinks as a coach. His calling card is he’s consistent at being slightly better than mediocre. The talent level on this team sucks, the coaching sucks and his recruiting is awful. 

This Catholic University is not going to do that and you know it so to keep repeating it makes no sense other than sounding like a broken record.

 

[RedStormNC]

Only thing Anderson (and Cragg) were smart enough to do was schedule  crappy opponents so they didn't get beat any worse.  They knew they had a sub par team and Anderson knows he can't recruit and win big time games.

this guy is just sucking $ from the school.

Can't wait for him to go so we at least get the excitement of finding the next guy to mooch of the school.

Disgusted.

 

[Knight]

He needs a Mike Dunlop.

 

[SJU85]

To bring us to continued national prominence, NO

 

[paultzman]

Seems either the ingredients don’t mix well, the chef is sub par this year or both

 

[SJU61982]

It does seem like, if the other team stays within 6-8 points by the under-4 TO, the "Anderson factor" kicks in, and the other team is really at an advantage.  Half court offense is really porous.  Posh needs to look for his shot more, if we want to have success, especially with Julian out.

 

[RedStormNC]

Seems either the ingredients don’t mix well, the chef is sub par this year or both

The chef is the one that goes shopping for the ingredients.

Can't shop at Met Foods or Aldi.

 

[boo haarvey]

Hire Pitino and end the madness. This guy stinks as a coach. His calling card is he’s consistent at being slightly better than mediocre. The talent level on this team sucks, the coaching sucks and his recruiting is awful. 

This Catholic University is not going to do that and you know it so to keep repeating it makes no sense other than sounding like a broken record.

Isn’t Christianity about forgiveness?  Why does our being a catholic university have any relevance?  Do Catholics have a higher sense of morality than others?  
 

 

[jr49]

I was happy with coach mike, not now. If Wasu is a starter, and must get all the time he does I am convinced we are the worst team in the BE. If these are the guys he brings in, and he not ashamed of himself he does not belong here. He needs to be the best hoops coach that ever live in order to get these guys compete in the big east. If mike brought in good D2 players they would be better then the guys he brought in. Please tell me, did all the guys that left just want, or did mike really want to replace them? Sorry about the awful post, but I feel the program been distroyed.

 

[monte]

Hire Pitino and end the madness. This guy stinks as a coach. His calling card is he’s consistent at being slightly better than mediocre. The talent level on this team sucks, the coaching sucks and his recruiting is awful. 

This Catholic University is not going to do that and you know it so to keep repeating it makes no sense other than sounding like a broken record.

Isn’t Christianity about forgiveness?  Why does our being a catholic university have any relevance?  Do Catholics have a higher sense of morality than others?  


 

It's called "selective forgiveness". The Catholic church is notorious for it. Pitino would have had a better chance at being forgiven and hired if he had killed someone 

 

[boo haarvey]

I was happy with coach mike, not now. If Wasu is a starter, and must get all the time he does I am convinced we are the worst team in the BE. If these are the guys he brings in, and he not ashamed of himself he does not belong here. He needs to be the best hoops coach that ever live in order to get these guys compete in the big east. If mike brought in good D2 players they would be better then the guys he brought in. Please tell me, did all the guys that left just want, or did mike really want to replace them? Sorry about the awful post, but I feel the program been distroyed.

There was no program for CMA to destroy.  Regardless, he doesn’t seem to be the answer.  I’d give him one more year after this.  I just don’t see how we have any chance of recruiting quality players after another losing season.

 

[boo haarvey]

I was happy with coach mike, not now. If Wasu is a starter, and must get all the time he does I am convinced we are the worst team in the BE. If these are the guys he brings in, and he not ashamed of himself he does not belong here. He needs to be the best hoops coach that ever live in order to get these guys compete in the big east. If mike brought in good D2 players they would be better then the guys he brought in. Please tell me, did all the guys that left just want, or did mike really want to replace them? Sorry about the awful post, but I feel the program been distroyed.

There was no program for CMA to destroy.  Regardless, he doesn’t seem to be the answer.  I’d give him one more year after this.  I just don’t see how we have any chance of recruiting quality players after another losing season.

 

[boo haarvey]

I was happy with coach mike, not now. If Wasu is a starter, and must get all the time he does I am convinced we are the worst team in the BE. If these are the guys he brings in, and he not ashamed of himself he does not belong here. He needs to be the best hoops coach that ever live in order to get these guys compete in the big east. If mike brought in good D2 players they would be better then the guys he brought in. Please tell me, did all the guys that left just want, or did mike really want to replace them? Sorry about the awful post, but I feel the program been distroyed.

There was no program for CMA to destroy.  Regardless, he doesn’t seem to be the answer.  I’d give him one more year after this.  I just don’t see how we have any chance of recruiting quality players after another losing season.

 

[Mickster]

I may be wrong, but didn’t Anderson receive a 6 year extension after being named BE COY? I would the buyout $$$ makes it incredibly unlikely that he would be replaced unless the program goes into a major tailspin