Anderson - is he really the guy ?

[beast of the east]

Beast of the East wrote:

Very fair points, but the point is basketball success catapulted donations AND applications, all improving academic standing.

To a lesser extent, Providence basketball helped do the same for that school.

Agree, and at least in 2010 when my daughter was applying to colleges and we considered and visited PC, it was a far better college than SJU from an academic perspective although nowhere near the other three mentioned. 

 

I would also add that to most of the old fogie posters on this board (myself included) STJ was always a commuter school.  The first dorms were not opened until 1999.  Commuter's tend to not develop nearly as strong a connection with their university as kids who live their young adult lives on or near their campus, which no doubt has an adverse impact on STJ donations leading to a lower budget for important university spending like basketball coaches.

I would point out that in the 70s and 80s Villanova and BC both had a large percentage of their students who were local and commuted even though there were dorms present.   At Nova for certain, and I'm guessing BC also, in that period more than half their students commuted.    Back in those days, the distance between St. John's and those schools academically was not as pronounced as it is today.   Evidence of that is that many of our alumni from that period have enjoyed tremendous career success, and I would guess that the top 20% of SJU students were academically as qualified as students at Georgetown, BC, or Villanova.   
Providence, I believe, benefitted as an overflow school to BC, Holy Cross, and to some extent Villanova.   Good students who were not accepted at those schools were looking for the next best Catholic schools, and Loyola MD, Providence, and Fordham all benefitted.

With new health professions to be offered, specifically nursing and physical therapy, SJU's academic profile will rise due to the more rigorous acceptance requirements for those professions.

 

[otis]

St. John's failings in expanding its academic footprint during that time period Beast references can be traced to a lack of institutional leadership at our beloved St. John's University.

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not sure which thread Monte raised the question of a plan or goal, but I'll respond here.

First of all, there is a strategic plan that was developed by Cragg with input from athletic department leaders and SJU administration.   I know it is a multi year plan, and includes upgrades to facilities and needs of all (18?) sports teams.

Achieving a specified level of success in any varsity sport is NOT part of a strategic plan, but Cragg wants every single varsity sport to achieve excellence on the field and in the classroom.    The classroom part of it is very important to our athletic department, and our athletes overall have been doing very well.  If an athlete, even a star athlete is lagging in the classroom, the AD quickly finds out and no matter who it is, they will get after that person.   No one is permitted to skate through classes.

That being said the goal for men's basketball is not just appearances in the NCAA tourney, but to win a national championship.   It's the goal for both Mikes and both have tasted that success in their career and both want nothing more than to cut down the nets at the Final Four.    This isn't Wilpon leadership, whereby being good is good enough.   Coaches and leadership want a championship caliber team.   Both know it takes time, because except for the most silver tongues promising (and sometimes paying) the world, talent acquisition is incremental - success brings in 4 stars, who help bring in 5 stars, etc.    

They are more patient than us because they've been in the business a long time, have seen success, and know what it takes.  There are no rumblings of upheaval or change in leadership - we are in a good place with university leadership from Shanley to Cragg to Anderson.   Any disruption to that at this point would be a big step backwards.  

The question of whether Anderson can win ENOUGH here will be answered, and while fans will always question that after poor play or a big loss, luckily having veterans lead our programs they know growth can be painful and in basketball often appears slower than the average fan can tolerate.   But to compare Anderson's tenure to Mullin's or Lavin's or anyone else for that matter is a mistake - a big one.   CMA and staff are pros, they work hard, and will get the most out of the guys they have in a given season, even as they work to bring in better talent.  

If we aren't on a path to more consistent post season success, that will become evident soon enough, and changes will be made.  It's the nature of sports, and we are in a big business sport, collegiate or not.

As fans, the only constructive thing we can do is show up and give our guys the typical 5 or 6 point home court advantage that definitely brings in wins, and to the extent we can, donate to help Mike fund his strategic plan.   Anything else, expressed here or otherwise, is non productive and even counter productive at times.

 

[Ray Morgan]

If the coach doesn’t have the players to work in his system, then he has to change his plans.  At this level you don’t have the luxury of being stubborn.

I  may be wrong, but my sense is that this team was assembled quickly with the best available options, once last year's kids started departing. Unlike others, I have a hard time believing that all of these kids were hand chosen by CMA because they fit his style of play. Let's face facts, this year's newcomers feature 3 low ranked recruits, one mystery man, 2 players who were bench players at mediocre high majors, and 3 kids who were decent contributors at a much lower level. All the newcomers except for Wheeler and Mathis came with big question marks about whether or not they could contribute at this level. There was not one kid who we knew could be plugged in and would be a significant contributor from day 1. That is not recruiting with a plan, that is recruiting on a wing and a prayer. 

Desperate times require desperate measures. CMA had a ton of sports to fill and did what he could to fill them. Filling minutes was accomplished, filling needs not so sure. 

Agreed Ray, but coaches don't get rewarded for effort, they get rewarded for results. Oh wait, except at SJU where you get rewarded with an extension without even dancing once. 

In the end,  players win games more than coaches.  If CMA is limited to bringing in 3 star payers,  he will not last past his contract.  Some posters want to believe the ratings don't count. The services will underestimate a 3 star sometimes and overrate a 4 star on occasion, but Self and Calipari don't knock on 3 star player's doors figuring the services are wrong.  As you say, CMA doesn't deserve a pass for effort.  He has to win, and in the Big East, you need great players to do that.


 

Self and Calipari don’t knock on 3 star recruits doors because they coach at Kansas and Kentucky. We are nowhere near either.

And we are going to remain nowhere near either unless recruiting steps up. We are competing against Creighton. They have 4 or 5 players that were 4 stars per Rivals. Xavier has multiple 4 star players. Villanova of course. even Depaul 2 players at 4 stars. In the major conferences, youhave to recruit at a high level to be near the top of the conference. Or you can recruit 3 star players and coach them up.  When they are upperclassmen,  all that teaching and experience makes them dangerous. But players don't stick together anymore. Makes that model less successful.
 

 

[ras]

What’s amazing is the results we got out of Champ, Posh and Wusu relative to their hs rankings. But I agree the recruiting analysts aren’t morons. So the higher the recruit is ranked, generally speaking the better odds of success. And a BE school should be able to get 4 star recruits, we’re not talking about McDonald’s  AAs.

 

[monte]

I'm not sure which thread Monte raised the question of a plan or goal, but I'll respond here.

First of all, there is a strategic plan that was developed by Cragg with input from athletic department leaders and SJU administration.   I know it is a multi year plan, and includes upgrades to facilities and all (18?) sports teams.

Achieving a specified level of success in any varsity sport is NOT part of a strategic plan, but Cragg wants every single varsity sport to achieve excellence on the field and in the classroom.    The classroom part of it is very important to our athletic department, and our athletes overall have been doing very well.  If an athlete, even a star athlete is lagging in the classroom, the AD quickly finds out and no matter who it is, they will get after that person.   No one is permitted to skate through classes.

That being said the goal for men's basketball is not just appearances in the NCAA tourney, but to win a national championship.   It's the goal for both Mikes and both have tasted that success in their career and both want nothing more than to cut down the nets at the Final Four.    This isn't Wilpon leadership, whereby being good is good enough.   Coaches and leadership want a championship caliber team.   Both know it takes time, because except for the most silver tongues promising (and sometimes paying) the world, talent acquisition is incremental - success brings in 4 stars, who help bring in 5 stars, etc.    

They are more patient than us because they've been in the business a long time, have seen success, and know what it takes.  There are no rumblings of upheaval or change in leadership - we are in a good place with university leadership from Shanley to Cragg to Anderson.   Any disruption to that at this point would be a big step backwards.  

The question of whether Anderson can win ENOUGH here will be answered, and while fans will always question that after poor play or a big loss, luckily having veterans lead our programs they know growth can be painful and in basketball often appears slower than the average fan can tolerate.   But to compare Anderson's tenure to Mullin's or Lavin's or anyone else for that matter is a mistake - a big one.   CMA and staff are pros, they work hard, and will get the most out of the guys they have in a given season, even as they work to bring in better talent.  

If we aren't on a path to more consistent post season success, that will become evident soon enough, and changes will be made.  It's the nature of sports, and we are in a big business sport, collegiate or not.

As fans, the only constructive thing we can do is show up and give our guys the typical 5 or 6 point home court advantage that definitely brings in wins, and to the extent we can, donate to help Mike fund his strategic plan.   Anything else, expressed here or otherwise, is non productive and even counter productive at times.

Beast this a sports forum, and an incredible one at that.  Mostly it's a basketball forum. What goes on at the school with academics, expansion, fundraising, etc is extremely important,
but it's not the reason why most of us come on this board. It's to discuss basketball, share our joys and, yes, our frustrations and disappointments. Are you actually suggesting that we don't express any negative thoughts not only on this board, but anywhere????? That we should just STFU, donate to the school, and go on blind faith?  Tell me that's not what you're saying, because that's how I'm reading it and I ain't liking it one bit. 
 

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not sure which thread Monte raised the question of a plan or goal, but I'll respond here.

First of all, there is a strategic plan that was developed by Cragg with input from athletic department leaders and SJU administration.   I know it is a multi year plan, and includes upgrades to facilities and all (18?) sports teams.

Achieving a specified level of success in any varsity sport is NOT part of a strategic plan, but Cragg wants every single varsity sport to achieve excellence on the field and in the classroom.    The classroom part of it is very important to our athletic department, and our athletes overall have been doing very well.  If an athlete, even a star athlete is lagging in the classroom, the AD quickly finds out and no matter who it is, they will get after that person.   No one is permitted to skate through classes.

That being said the goal for men's basketball is not just appearances in the NCAA tourney, but to win a national championship.   It's the goal for both Mikes and both have tasted that success in their career and both want nothing more than to cut down the nets at the Final Four.    This isn't Wilpon leadership, whereby being good is good enough.   Coaches and leadership want a championship caliber team.   Both know it takes time, because except for the most silver tongues promising (and sometimes paying) the world, talent acquisition is incremental - success brings in 4 stars, who help bring in 5 stars, etc.    

They are more patient than us because they've been in the business a long time, have seen success, and know what it takes.  There are no rumblings of upheaval or change in leadership - we are in a good place with university leadership from Shanley to Cragg to Anderson.   Any disruption to that at this point would be a big step backwards.  

The question of whether Anderson can win ENOUGH here will be answered, and while fans will always question that after poor play or a big loss, luckily having veterans lead our programs they know growth can be painful and in basketball often appears slower than the average fan can tolerate.   But to compare Anderson's tenure to Mullin's or Lavin's or anyone else for that matter is a mistake - a big one.   CMA and staff are pros, they work hard, and will get the most out of the guys they have in a given season, even as they work to bring in better talent.  

If we aren't on a path to more consistent post season success, that will become evident soon enough, and changes will be made.  It's the nature of sports, and we are in a big business sport, collegiate or not.

As fans, the only constructive thing we can do is show up and give our guys the typical 5 or 6 point home court advantage that definitely brings in wins, and to the extent we can, donate to help Mike fund his strategic plan.   Anything else, expressed here or otherwise, is non productive and even counter productive at times.

Beast this a sports forum, and an incredible one at that.  Mostly it's a basketball forum. What goes on at the school with academics, expansion, fundraising, etc is extremely important,
but it's not the reason why most of us come on this board. It's to discuss basketball, share our joys and, yes, our frustrations and disappointments. Are you actually suggesting that we don't express any negative thoughts not only on this board, but anywhere????? That we should just STFU, donate to the school, and go on blind faith?  Tell me that's not what you're saying, because that's how I'm reading it and I ain't liking it one bit. 

 

You can say whatever you'd like, but as I said it's non productive and can be counterproductive.   There's nothing productive about it Monte.   You asked about strategic plan and it's all encompassing.   I think you were expecting there is no plan or that it would be about winning.   It is still a university, and the strategic plan for the athletic department is broad but does not mandate a certain level of performance by teams.   That's all

 

[monte]

I'm not sure which thread Monte raised the question of a plan or goal, but I'll respond here.

First of all, there is a strategic plan that was developed by Cragg with input from athletic department leaders and SJU administration.   I know it is a multi year plan, and includes upgrades to facilities and all (18?) sports teams.

Achieving a specified level of success in any varsity sport is NOT part of a strategic plan, but Cragg wants every single varsity sport to achieve excellence on the field and in the classroom.    The classroom part of it is very important to our athletic department, and our athletes overall have been doing very well.  If an athlete, even a star athlete is lagging in the classroom, the AD quickly finds out and no matter who it is, they will get after that person.   No one is permitted to skate through classes.

That being said the goal for men's basketball is not just appearances in the NCAA tourney, but to win a national championship.   It's the goal for both Mikes and both have tasted that success in their career and both want nothing more than to cut down the nets at the Final Four.    This isn't Wilpon leadership, whereby being good is good enough.   Coaches and leadership want a championship caliber team.   Both know it takes time, because except for the most silver tongues promising (and sometimes paying) the world, talent acquisition is incremental - success brings in 4 stars, who help bring in 5 stars, etc.    

They are more patient than us because they've been in the business a long time, have seen success, and know what it takes.  There are no rumblings of upheaval or change in leadership - we are in a good place with university leadership from Shanley to Cragg to Anderson.   Any disruption to that at this point would be a big step backwards.  

The question of whether Anderson can win ENOUGH here will be answered, and while fans will always question that after poor play or a big loss, luckily having veterans lead our programs they know growth can be painful and in basketball often appears slower than the average fan can tolerate.   But to compare Anderson's tenure to Mullin's or Lavin's or anyone else for that matter is a mistake - a big one.   CMA and staff are pros, they work hard, and will get the most out of the guys they have in a given season, even as they work to bring in better talent.  

If we aren't on a path to more consistent post season success, that will become evident soon enough, and changes will be made.  It's the nature of sports, and we are in a big business sport, collegiate or not.

As fans, the only constructive thing we can do is show up and give our guys the typical 5 or 6 point home court advantage that definitely brings in wins, and to the extent we can, donate to help Mike fund his strategic plan.   Anything else, expressed here or otherwise, is non productive and even counter productive at times.

Beast this a sports forum, and an incredible one at that.  Mostly it's a basketball forum. What goes on at the school with academics, expansion, fundraising, etc is extremely important,
but it's not the reason why most of us come on this board. It's to discuss basketball, share our joys and, yes, our frustrations and disappointments. Are you actually suggesting that we don't express any negative thoughts not only on this board, but anywhere????? That we should just STFU, donate to the school, and go on blind faith?  Tell me that's not what you're saying, because that's how I'm reading it and I ain't liking it one bit. 


 

You can say whatever you'd like, but as I said it's non productive and can be counterproductive.   There's nothing productive about it Monte.   You asked about strategic plan and it's all encompassing.   I think you were expecting there is no plan or that it would be about winning.   It is still a university, and the strategic plan for the athletic department is broad but does not mandate a certain level of performance by teams.   That's all

Non-productive for who? Because I find it extremely therapeutic to vent after dealing with this crap for the past 20 years. And I'm not asking for a specific plan, I'm asking for a general idea of what the goals are for the program. Realistic general goals, not specific ones. You ran a business for many years, as did I. We both had goals, a plan and a timeline. Sometimes we met or exceeded those goals, sometimes we didn't. But we had them. . Because when I hear the goal is that "we want to win a national championship" I call bullshit on that. It's insulting to me based on where this program has been and where it is right now. It sounds like a ploy to get donations. That may work with some of our more gullible fans and alum, but it don't work with me. 

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not sure which thread Monte raised the question of a plan or goal, but I'll respond here.

First of all, there is a strategic plan that was developed by Cragg with input from athletic department leaders and SJU administration.   I know it is a multi year plan, and includes upgrades to facilities and all (18?) sports teams.

Achieving a specified level of success in any varsity sport is NOT part of a strategic plan, but Cragg wants every single varsity sport to achieve excellence on the field and in the classroom.    The classroom part of it is very important to our athletic department, and our athletes overall have been doing very well.  If an athlete, even a star athlete is lagging in the classroom, the AD quickly finds out and no matter who it is, they will get after that person.   No one is permitted to skate through classes.

That being said the goal for men's basketball is not just appearances in the NCAA tourney, but to win a national championship.   It's the goal for both Mikes and both have tasted that success in their career and both want nothing more than to cut down the nets at the Final Four.    This isn't Wilpon leadership, whereby being good is good enough.   Coaches and leadership want a championship caliber team.   Both know it takes time, because except for the most silver tongues promising (and sometimes paying) the world, talent acquisition is incremental - success brings in 4 stars, who help bring in 5 stars, etc.    

They are more patient than us because they've been in the business a long time, have seen success, and know what it takes.  There are no rumblings of upheaval or change in leadership - we are in a good place with university leadership from Shanley to Cragg to Anderson.   Any disruption to that at this point would be a big step backwards.  

The question of whether Anderson can win ENOUGH here will be answered, and while fans will always question that after poor play or a big loss, luckily having veterans lead our programs they know growth can be painful and in basketball often appears slower than the average fan can tolerate.   But to compare Anderson's tenure to Mullin's or Lavin's or anyone else for that matter is a mistake - a big one.   CMA and staff are pros, they work hard, and will get the most out of the guys they have in a given season, even as they work to bring in better talent.  

If we aren't on a path to more consistent post season success, that will become evident soon enough, and changes will be made.  It's the nature of sports, and we are in a big business sport, collegiate or not.

As fans, the only constructive thing we can do is show up and give our guys the typical 5 or 6 point home court advantage that definitely brings in wins, and to the extent we can, donate to help Mike fund his strategic plan.   Anything else, expressed here or otherwise, is non productive and even counter productive at times.

Beast this a sports forum, and an incredible one at that.  Mostly it's a basketball forum. What goes on at the school with academics, expansion, fundraising, etc is extremely important,
but it's not the reason why most of us come on this board. It's to discuss basketball, share our joys and, yes, our frustrations and disappointments. Are you actually suggesting that we don't express any negative thoughts not only on this board, but anywhere????? That we should just STFU, donate to the school, and go on blind faith?  Tell me that's not what you're saying, because that's how I'm reading it and I ain't liking it one bit. 




 

You can say whatever you'd like, but as I said it's non productive and can be counterproductive.   There's nothing productive about it Monte.   You asked about strategic plan and it's all encompassing.   I think you were expecting there is no plan or that it would be about winning.   It is still a university, and the strategic plan for the athletic department is broad but does not mandate a certain level of performance by teams.   That's all

Non-productive for who? Because I find it extremely therapeutic to vent after dealing with this crap for the past 20 years. And I'm not asking for a specific plan, I'm asking for a general idea of what the goals are for the program. Realistic general goals, not specific ones. You ran a business for many years, as did I. We both had goals, a plan and a timeline. Sometimes we met or exceeded those goals, sometimes we didn't. But we had them. . Because when I hear the goal is that "we want to win a national championship" I call bullshit on that. It's insulting to me based on where this program has been and where it is right now. It sounds like a ploy to get donations. That may work with some of our more gullible fans and alum, but it don't work with me. 

No sense in replying here.  I'm done with the subject unless you want to chat about it offline.   No intent to get you worked up or offended..

 

[usguard]

I feel your frustration ,I also feel after 20/ yrs it runs paper thin.  At times I think we would be more productive with a tradition offensive and defensive mentality rather  than 40 mins of hell which I haven’t seen in coaches time here. Due to the length of yrs which we have not been considered a good team in hard not to be critical .We desperately need a game changer recruit  that will Change the direction and time of the programs goals. So it falls on recruiting ,not saying that Champ  and Posh are not good players they are but a high rated like a 5 I know would makes us all happy But is it reality

 

[PharmDJohnnie11]

“Win national championships” LOL.

How about we make it to the semi-finals of the BE tournament before we start putting out these unattainable goals?

We’re fans and we’re allowed to voice our opinion. I could care less if it’s counterproductive. That’s not my problem. That’s the idiots they put in charge of the school and program’s problem. 

Put a better product on the court and upgrade the facilities if you want people singing the schools praises all the time. I’m literally embarrassed to take family members to games at Carnasecca because it’s such a dump. 

 

 

[beast of the east]

“Win national championships” LOL.

How about we make it to the semi-finals of the BE tournament before we start putting out these unattainable goals?

We’re fans and we’re allowed to voice our opinion. I could care less if it’s counterproductive. That’s not my problem. That’s the idiots they put in charge of the school and program’s problem. 

Put a better product on the court and upgrade the facilities if you want people singing the schools praises all the time. I’m literally embarrassed to take family members to games at Carnasecca because it’s such a dump. 




 

Dr. Johnnie,  Carnasecca?  Really?  Literally embarrassed?   Why would you bring family to a place you are literally embarrassed to be?   I'm literally embarrassed that CVS has cut starting salaries by over 20% because of the glut of entry level PharmD's produced over the past 10 years.  I'm embarrassed that the entry level PharmD carries no monetary weight in the market place and in fact has resulted in lower salaries.  That's a problem to be embarrassed about in my opinion, not at a basketball facility that is plenty good enough for my family.   I'd much rather see the university spend $80 million on a sparkling new health sciences building and two new desperately needed healthcare professions than build a new arena where we can't draw 5000 fans.  I'm not literally embarrassed by low attendance, but know it doesn't help build better facilities.  But that's just me

 

[ras]

I'm not sure which thread Monte raised the question of a plan or goal, but I'll respond here.

First of all, there is a strategic plan that was developed by Cragg with input from athletic department leaders and SJU administration.   I know it is a multi year plan, and includes upgrades to facilities and all (18?) sports teams.

Achieving a specified level of success in any varsity sport is NOT part of a strategic plan, but Cragg wants every single varsity sport to achieve excellence on the field and in the classroom.    The classroom part of it is very important to our athletic department, and our athletes overall have been doing very well.  If an athlete, even a star athlete is lagging in the classroom, the AD quickly finds out and no matter who it is, they will get after that person.   No one is permitted to skate through classes.

That being said the goal for men's basketball is not just appearances in the NCAA tourney, but to win a national championship.   It's the goal for both Mikes and both have tasted that success in their career and both want nothing more than to cut down the nets at the Final Four.    This isn't Wilpon leadership, whereby being good is good enough.   Coaches and leadership want a championship caliber team.   Both know it takes time, because except for the most silver tongues promising (and sometimes paying) the world, talent acquisition is incremental - success brings in 4 stars, who help bring in 5 stars, etc.    

They are more patient than us because they've been in the business a long time, have seen success, and know what it takes.  There are no rumblings of upheaval or change in leadership - we are in a good place with university leadership from Shanley to Cragg to Anderson.   Any disruption to that at this point would be a big step backwards.  

The question of whether Anderson can win ENOUGH here will be answered, and while fans will always question that after poor play or a big loss, luckily having veterans lead our programs they know growth can be painful and in basketball often appears slower than the average fan can tolerate.   But to compare Anderson's tenure to Mullin's or Lavin's or anyone else for that matter is a mistake - a big one.   CMA and staff are pros, they work hard, and will get the most out of the guys they have in a given season, even as they work to bring in better talent.  

If we aren't on a path to more consistent post season success, that will become evident soon enough, and changes will be made.  It's the nature of sports, and we are in a big business sport, collegiate or not.

As fans, the only constructive thing we can do is show up and give our guys the typical 5 or 6 point home court advantage that definitely brings in wins, and to the extent we can, donate to help Mike fund his strategic plan.   Anything else, expressed here or otherwise, is non productive and even counter productive at times.

Beast this a sports forum, and an incredible one at that.  Mostly it's a basketball forum. What goes on at the school with academics, expansion, fundraising, etc is extremely important,
but it's not the reason why most of us come on this board. It's to discuss basketball, share our joys and, yes, our frustrations and disappointments. Are you actually suggesting that we don't express any negative thoughts not only on this board, but anywhere????? That we should just STFU, donate to the school, and go on blind faith?  Tell me that's not what you're saying, because that's how I'm reading it and I ain't liking it one bit. 



 

You can say whatever you'd like, but as I said it's non productive and can be counterproductive.   There's nothing productive about it Monte.   You asked about strategic plan and it's all encompassing.   I think you were expecting there is no plan or that it would be about winning.   It is still a university, and the strategic plan for the athletic department is broad but does not mandate a certain level of performance by teams.   That's all

Non-productive for who? Because I find it extremely therapeutic to vent after dealing with this crap for the past 20 years. And I'm not asking for a specific plan, I'm asking for a general idea of what the goals are for the program. Realistic general goals, not specific ones. You ran a business for many years, as did I. We both had goals, a plan and a timeline. Sometimes we met or exceeded those goals, sometimes we didn't. But we had them. . Because when I hear the goal is that "we want to win a national championship" I call bullshit on that. It's insulting to me based on where this program has been and where it is right now. It sounds like a ploy to get donations. That may work with some of our more gullible fans and alum, but it don't work with me. 
——
Baby steps. Let’s win an NCAA tourney game before we start talking about a championship.
 

 

[Knight]

Everyone seems a bit tightly wound today.  Relax we all want the same thing.  Different ideas and approaches are a good thing to hear and contemplate.  

Let’s win Thursday and take it a game at a time.

 

[Las Vegan]

First step, for me, would be to avoid playing Wednesday night, in the Big East Tournament, for two years in a row. 

 

[PharmDJohnnie11]

“Win national championships” LOL.

How about we make it to the semi-finals of the BE tournament before we start putting out these unattainable goals?

We’re fans and we’re allowed to voice our opinion. I could care less if it’s counterproductive. That’s not my problem. That’s the idiots they put in charge of the school and program’s problem. 

Put a better product on the court and upgrade the facilities if you want people singing the schools praises all the time. I’m literally embarrassed to take family members to games at Carnasecca because it’s such a dump. 





 

Dr. Johnnie,  Carnasecca?  Really?  Literally embarrassed?   Why would you bring family to a place you are literally embarrassed to be?   I'm literally embarrassed that CVS has cut starting salaries by over 20% because of the glut of entry level PharmD's produced over the past 10 years.  I'm embarrassed that the entry level PharmD carries no monetary weight in the market place and in fact has resulted in lower salaries.  That's a problem to be embarrassed about in my opinion, not at a basketball facility that is plenty good enough for my family.   I'd much rather see the university spend $80 million on a sparkling new health sciences building and two new desperately needed healthcare professions than build a new arena where we can't draw 5000 fans.  I'm not literally embarrassed by low attendance, but know it doesn't help build better facilities.  But that's just me

The school rolls in 45k per student per year and gets plenty of donations from alumni, myself included. 

They can at least put seat-backs on all the seats in Carnasecca so that when I take my dad to a game he doesn’t strain his back so badly that he can’t walk straight for a week afterwards. 

Also building a new health sciences building won’t help entry level pharmacists salaries go  up. It’ll just flood the market with more under-qualified grads who shouldn’t even be in the profession in the first place. 

 

[usguard]

Agree backs on seats,Remember,only 2 rows one o each side had cushion seats with back ,that over 50 yrs and still seats not updated

 

[JohnnyFan]

Agree backs on seats,Remember,only 2 rows one o each side had cushion seats with back ,that over 50 yrs and still seats not updated

I am not nearly as worked up as most on this thread, but all seats with backs strikes a chord with me.  I hope we can finally get this done sometime soon.   

 

[Mullins Revenge]

I think its pretty simple in evaluating Mike Anderson.  He needs to make the NCAA tournament this year.  If he does not, we have a big problem and I will lean toward that he is not the guy.

No more excuses.  Year 3.  Get us in the tourney!!

 

[boo haarvey]

First step, for me, would be to avoid playing Wednesday night, in the Big East Tournament, for two years in a row. 

Huh?  We finished fourth in the conference last year