Anderson and Demeo's Lawsuit updates?

I thought the hire was mediocre, I thought the extension
redmannorth said:
As Monte has often said perhaps CMA’s agent Sexton was the much better negotiator, perhaps he refused to hear of or entertain a buyout, or perhaps it was poor negotiating on our part. I certainly don’t know.
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Dont know the particulars RMN, but still say that the extension was the worst (sports) business decision since the NBA decided to give the Silna brothers 2% of the annual NBA TV revenue for perpetuity. FWIW, after many years of paying the Silna brothers, the parties worked out a buyout.
 
redmannorth said:
Anderson was given the extension after winning BE coach of the year. Had he not been given an extension and was poached by another school people would be criticizing Cragg for not having locked him up. Perhaps other schools were snooping around which we were not aware of.
It is very easy to look back some two years later at what was done. However, I bet if we look back at many a post after Anderson had been extended it would not shock me if the sentiment on the board was very positive.
Coaching is a tough profession. The Bucks just got rid of their coach 2 years after an nba title and a great record this season. Raptors just got rid of their coach 3 years removed from an nba title and it was not his fault KLeonard decided to leave town for LA. Rivers may be coaching his last game in Philly if the Sixers don’t advance, but yet he has had 3 very good seasons.
Cragg was in a very tough position and I doubt he could have signed the extension without many of the higher ups on board with it.
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All very good points. This board forgets that the 21-22 team was one Julian Champagnie airball and one questionable foul call from the first meaningful post season win in 20 years.

I agree with maher, the contract should have had a severance clause that at best advanced him a years salary for termination without cause.
 
Beasts of the East said:
All very good points. This board forgets that the 21-22 team was one Julian Champagnie airball and one questionable foul call from the first meaningful post season win in 20 years.

I agree with maher, the contract should have had a severance clause that at best advanced him a years salary for termination without cause.
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While that win would have been nice it would have not changed the season unless we went on to win the tournament. Regardless of the outcome of the Villanova game, we grossly underachieved the whole season.
 
Beasts of the East said:
All very good points. This board forgets that the 21-22 team was one Julian Champagnie airball and one questionable foul call from the first meaningful post season win in 20 years.

I agree with maher, the contract should have had a severance clause that at best advanced him a years salary for termination without cause.
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That is why I wrote that maybe his agent refused such a clause and insisted on a full buyout. It very well might have been extension with a full buy out or nothing.
Without knowing all details, which I will never know, I am not prepared to throw Mike Cragg under the bus. I have to believe he and whoever else were involved in the contract and the negotiations knew what they were doing.
 
redmannorth said:
That is why I wrote that maybe his agent refused such a clause and insisted on a full buyout. It very well might have been extension with a full buy out or nothing.
Without knowing all details, which I will never know, I am not prepared to throw Mike Cragg under the bus. I have to believe he and whoever else were involved in the contract and the negotiations knew what they were doing.
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I believe they did what they thought was best at the time. They also thought this Anderson was a "home run hire". At best he was a safe hire. So clearly they thought wrong right from the get go, and their bad decisions reflected their over-valuation of Anderson. IMO Sexton created interest in his client from other schools, and SJU desperate for a coach and then not wanting to loose that coach, took the bait...twice. In other words, they overbid against themselves. One only need Google "Jimmy Sexton is a POS" to read all you need to know about the guy's MO.
 
redmannorth said:
That is why I wrote that maybe his agent refused such a clause and insisted on a full buyout. It very well might have been extension with a full buy out or nothing.
Without knowing all details, which I will never know, I am not prepared to throw Mike Cragg under the bus. I have to believe he and whoever else were involved in the contract and the negotiations knew what they were doing.
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That’s fair. But I am still disappointed with Cragg’s tenure overall. Maybe I expected at least the daily operations to be run well.

However the other programs, especially soccer (which was a gold standard for years) and baseball (successful as well) have gone backwards.

And let’s not even discuss how no one can seem to even hire a semi-competent coach to lead the lacrosse program.

Hopefully the basketball program can ignite a rebirth in those sports as well.
 
Actually, just about every major college coach gets guaranteed contracts. That's a reality. In our case Anderson wasn't a Shanley hire and he had nothing to do with the extension so it was a lot easier for him to part ways. In corporations a change in leadership often results in the termination of employees and contracted vendors.

Bucks fire Budenholzer after a .693 career winning %, and an nba championship and 58 wins this past season. He has 2 years left on his contract, greater than cma.

Suns fire coach after he won nba coach of the year two of last four seasons.
 
redmannorth said:
That is why I wrote that maybe his agent refused such a clause and insisted on a full buyout. It very well might have been extension with a full buy out or nothing.
Without knowing all details, which I will never know, I am not prepared to throw Mike Cragg under the bus. I have to believe he and whoever else were involved in the contract and the negotiations knew what they were doing.
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Well stated.
 
monte said:
I believe they did what they thought was best at the time. They also thought this Anderson was a "home run hire". At best he was a safe hire. So clearly they thought wrong right from the get go, and their bad decisions reflected their over-valuation of Anderson. IMO Sexton created interest in his client from other schools, and SJU desperate for a coach and then not wanting to loose that coach, took the bait...twice. In other words, they overbid against themselves. One only need Google "Jimmy Sexton is a POS" to read all you need to know about the guy's MO.
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Overwhelmingly at the time we all felt we finally had the coaching stability we didn't have for 30 years.

Hindsight is always 20-20. Needless to say it was a mistake, but who felt that the wheels would fall off within 2 seasons?
 
Beasts of the East said:
Overwhelmingly at the time we all felt we finally had the coaching stability we didn't have for 30 years.

Hindsight is always 20-20. Needless to say it was a mistake, but who felt that the wheels would fall off within 2 seasons?
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Agreed. And, this is why agents know to pounce on extension talks whenever there is any perceived leverage. Can't blame them, that's the job.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Overwhelmingly at the time we all felt we finally had the coaching stability we didn't have for 30 years.

Hindsight is always 20-20. Needless to say it was a mistake, but who felt that the wheels would fall off within 2 seasons?
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I expected sustained mediocrity, I never expected the wheels to fall off. Having said that, my feelings about Anderson and his contract/extension have been consistent throughout. So the rule of "hindsight always being 20/20" don't apply to me in this instance.
 
monte said:
If that POS was my agent, I wouldn't be posting on this message board right now. I'd be preparing for the lead in the next Scorsese movie. Unfortunately my agent, Mike Maher, hasn't done squat for me yet.
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Your agent ( me ) told you to stop staring at chicks in bikinis from your oceanfront window over the beach in long beach. :)
 
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