All Realignment Talk Here
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jrhoops1949
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Quality of and interest in this league from the get go gonna be fine. Fox people no dopes. I don't know who else out there makes more money off hoops, but it certainly is enough for the members to maintain top notch programs. As a group of 7 non-football schools how could they have come out any better.
buckethead
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ND irks me as they have already hopped out of the BE so I want nothing to do with them. I would as soon take St. Louis, Dayton and Richmond or VCU. I like Creighton but you are adding a couple of hundred miles west of St. Louis or Marquette to get to Omaha. We get a BE mid West division and a BE East Coast division. We you play each of your division teams twice and the opposing division once per year (obviously rotating home/away) You still get 16 league games and you get a nice league playoff set up with the top 4 getting a bye-round. Mid-west would be Marquette, St. Louis, Xavier, Butler, DePaul, and Dayton. East Coast would be SJU, SH, Gtown, Prov, Nova and Richmond/VCU, though I don't find either of these listed as Catholic like the others. It confuses me why they don't look at places like Duquense...tough choice competitive or staying with the theme the league seems to be leaning towards.
[quote="buckethead" post=60333 It confuses me why they don't look at places like Duquense...tough choice competitive or staying with the theme the league seems to be leaning towards.[/quote]
Because like LaSalle, Fordham and St. Bonaventure, Duquense is essentially a MAAC team pretending to belong in the A10.
They have no business in the C7.
Because like LaSalle, Fordham and St. Bonaventure, Duquense is essentially a MAAC team pretending to belong in the A10.
They have no business in the C7.
Mentioned as a long shot due to travel expenses. Personally I would love to have them.
IMO if ND wants in for all sports and keep football independent you take them in a heart beat. 5-10 years later if they need to switch for football than you replace them. The difference between them and a cinci or uconn is that 1 they have proven they can be successfull as an independent so they don't need the football conference affiliation and 2 they are catholic.
jetstorm
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Because like LaSalle, Fordham and St. Bonaventure, Duquense is essentially a MAAC team pretending to belong in the A10.
They have no business in the C7.[/quote]
La Salle beat VCU and Butler plus won the Big Five and has a fine history they are nothing like Fordham, or the others!!
La Salle beat VCU and Butler plus won the Big Five and has a fine history they are nothing like Fordham, or the others!![/quote]
They haven't been to the NCAA in 21 years and that was when they were in the MAAC.
They're conf record since joining the A10 is 102 - 170
They play in a gym that makes CA look like the Carrier Dome.
BOB BARKER
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notre dame entered the big east on their own terms...should have been required to play fb...now they want another year to bridge acc move...would not accept them....before b.e. you had to beg them to sched game,and it had to be at msg...let irish go on their merry way,they were last dagger in b.e. demise...
I understand the feeling about not wanting ND involved in the new league, especially as they left for the ACC. However, them leaving the Big East was probably more about what the conference was becoming, and the ACC essentially was the Big East now, but I think they see the Catholic league as a rightful home, and perhaps this could work. If this new, old, whatever league does take in ND, that would be the only football school I'd give such consideration too. Would they do it only for basketball? What about hockey teams and such? But if you told me, ten team league with ND, Butler, and Xavier as the add-ons, I wouldn't complain. And ND has been a top-25 team on the regular of late if I'm not mistaken, wouldn't hurt the overall BPI would it? Whatever the deal or feelings, the buzz on this league is solid and it's so much better of a place to be in compared to a year ago, or compared to UCONN even! And even if ND were to join, then one day bolt, by then, that would be the only school you'd have to replace, for all the other programs truly are basketball schools.
If football had been a requirement for Notre Dame joining the Big East, then ND never would've have joined. We all know that. (Hell, if they turned down the Big 10 for football, then they certainly had no intention of ever being a part of BE football.) And yes, ND joining the BE helped their basketball program more than it helped the conference. But that's all water under the bridge. If we're going to start out as a power conference with a good TV draw, it would be good to have ND on board, if only for a short time. They once used us; now we should use them. No need to cut off our nose just to spite our face.
Here are a couple of replies put into one...1) Duquesne never will fit. Too small and their media market is dominated by Ohio State, Penn State and Pitt. Lets face it, we're not the Big 10 of non football playing schools. We need to look at media exposure as well.
2) I would take Notre Dame in a heartbeat even if it is just for one season. Look at it from ND's point of view. They know they had to give up some of their independence to have bowl access and room for their other sports but if the ACC gets raided where will their quality competition go? Instead of selecting between FSU, Clemson, Pitt, Syracuse, Ga Tech, Va Tech, Virginia, and BC in football they may very well be choosing from a bunch of garbage! Pick 5 teams to face each year assuming the ACC doesn't get raided any more and it still weakens their schedule and rivalries. Imagine FSU, UNC, Clemson, and either UVA/GaTech leaving? The only consistently good school left is VaTech and who says they don't run to the Big12 too? Their SOS will plummet! I think all of this was done moreso as a place to park their other sports and if the C7 can offer that at less of a hit to them then I think they take it. Lets be honest, getting Notre Dame to join would be a HUGE win for all parties involved!
2) I would take Notre Dame in a heartbeat even if it is just for one season. Look at it from ND's point of view. They know they had to give up some of their independence to have bowl access and room for their other sports but if the ACC gets raided where will their quality competition go? Instead of selecting between FSU, Clemson, Pitt, Syracuse, Ga Tech, Va Tech, Virginia, and BC in football they may very well be choosing from a bunch of garbage! Pick 5 teams to face each year assuming the ACC doesn't get raided any more and it still weakens their schedule and rivalries. Imagine FSU, UNC, Clemson, and either UVA/GaTech leaving? The only consistently good school left is VaTech and who says they don't run to the Big12 too? Their SOS will plummet! I think all of this was done moreso as a place to park their other sports and if the C7 can offer that at less of a hit to them then I think they take it. Lets be honest, getting Notre Dame to join would be a HUGE win for all parties involved!
what's the pity party for notre dame all about?
they got a sweetheart deal to join the big east...then they threw us under the bus for no other reason than greed. we're better off taking cincy, temple and UCONN for a year while they find a real place for their football. let notre dame "f" off.
they got a sweetheart deal to join the big east...then they threw us under the bus for no other reason than greed. we're better off taking cincy, temple and UCONN for a year while they find a real place for their football. let notre dame "f" off.