All Realignment Talk Here

i would not be surprised if the acc eventually becomes an after-thought in football.....florida state and clemson may leave for the big 12 and there are rumors that georgia tech and virginia are high on the list if the big 10 expands further....(although georgia doesn't "touch" any other big 10 states which is one of their league requirements)...

at first i was bothered by all of this realignment because only the big east seemed to be suffering.....now it's just a free-for-all.....
 
I just want to ask the more tenured people on this board what effect they believe this will have on our ability to recruit going forward. With a watered down Big East can we go toe to toe with Syracuse and Uconn in recruiting wars if they are in superior conferences?
 
We might be considered a mid major by recruits by the time this poaching is done.

I still dont understand how people that are in charge of the big east and in charge of st john athletic decisions do not get fired for this.

last time they thought that emphasis on athletics was not important Norm Roberts happened.
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
 
ACC's best move is to complete the job it started and take UConn, STJ, Georgetown, and Villanova. ACC is already, at best, a hybrid of the old ACC and the old Big East.
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The ACC might have more teams from the Big East than the ACC then :)
 
Well one thing that wont change is rutgers will have the same result in the Big Ten in basketball as they have in the Big East.

Somewhere out there Alfredo will be smiling
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
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Yes, but eventually Calipari left Memphis to coach in a better league. If Lavin is successful, he may eventually do the same.
 
If that happens the Big East basketball schools should just merge with the A-10. You would have St. Johns, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, Depaul, Providence, Seton Hall, St. Louis, Butler, Xavier, VCU, St. Joes, UMass etc. That's not a bad conference and if St. Johns can schedule agressively out of conference their SOS will be fine. Plus, if Lavin can do what Calipari did at Memphis, St. Johns can win the conference every year or at least get one of the three or four bids that the conference will get every year. we would be almost guaranteed an NCAA bid every year.
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
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Yes, but eventually Calipari left Memphis to coach in a better league. If Lavin is successful, he may eventually do the same.
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Yes Fran but Memphis also wasn't New York City and Memphis didn't have the money to pay Calipari enough to stop him from leaving. St. Johns does especially if Mike Repole stays involved.
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
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Yes, but eventually Calipari left Memphis to coach in a better league. If Lavin is successful, he may eventually do the same.
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Yes Fran but Memphis also wasn't New York City and Memphis didn't have the money to pay Calipari enough to stop him from leaving. St. Johns does especially if Mike Repole stays involved.
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Perhaps, but if we are in a sense demoted to the A-10, I would not hang my hat on Lavin sticking around to coach at a mid major. He might, but expecting him to do so would be the same type of complacent thinking that has gotten us into this apparent mess in the first place. In fact, if that were to occur, I could easily see him ending up back out west at a place like USC. A move down from a power conference should be looked upon as an absolute last resort.
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
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Yes, but eventually Calipari left Memphis to coach in a better league. If Lavin is successful, he may eventually do the same.
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Yes Fran but Memphis also wasn't New York City and Memphis didn't have the money to pay Calipari enough to stop him from leaving. St. Johns does especially if Mike Repole stays involved.
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Perhaps, but if we are in a sense demoted to the A-10, I would not hang my hat on Lavin sticking around to coach in a mid major. He might, but expecting him to do so would be the same type of complacent thinking that has apparently gotten us into this mess in the first place. A move down from a power conference should be looked upon as a last resort.
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Agreed, but we might not have a choice. If that's the case and we don't have a choice then the St. Johns administration with help from Repole have to be prepared to overwhelm Lavin with Money. In the end it's all about the Benjamins. That's why all this realigment is happening in the first place. If the answer to the question doesn't concern money, rephrase the question.
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
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Yes, but eventually Calipari left Memphis to coach in a better league. If Lavin is successful, he may eventually do the same.
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Yes Fran but Memphis also wasn't New York City and Memphis didn't have the money to pay Calipari enough to stop him from leaving. St. Johns does especially if Mike Repole stays involved.
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Perhaps, but if we are in a sense demoted to the A-10, I would not hang my hat on Lavin sticking around to coach in a mid major. He might, but expecting him to do so would be the same type of complacent thinking that has apparently gotten us into this mess in the first place. A move down from a power conference should be looked upon as a last resort.
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Agreed, but we might not have a choice. If that's the case and we don't have a choice then the St. Johns administration with help from Repole have to be prepared to overwhelm Lavin with Money. In the end it's all about the Benjamins. That's why all this realigment is happening in the first place. If the answer to the question doesn't concern money, rephrase the question.
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Ego plays a very large part as well, and should not be completely discounted when looking at the entire picture. Plus, who's to say that Repole will be as anxious to bankroll a team in a mid major conference?
 
I highly doubt Georgetown, Nova, Quette, etc. will accept the mid-major fate either. They are in the same boat. I am confident we will be alright in the future.
 
Just my opinion but we as a fan base cant just rely on the prospect of Repole as a savior. We need better fan support whether it's donations or just people going to games.

I was texting Traczok today who was going home from the charleston thing and he said our turnout was real bad but there really isnt an excuse because he said Dayton had close to a thousand fans.

There better be some fans out for the San Fran game when mjmaherjr arrives
 
IMHO if we win we will get recruits-regardless of the state of the BEC or whatever conference we are in. We have to start winning this year, that is our pre-emptive strategy.
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I agree Joe. Look what Calipari was able to do with Memphis when they were in ConferenceUSA. It doesn't matter what conference we are in. Even if we are in the A-10, If we schedule agressively outside of conference ,are ranked consistantly and Lavin continues to send players to the NBA Lavin will be able to recruit.
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Yes, but eventually Calipari left Memphis to coach in a better league. If Lavin is successful, he may eventually do the same.
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Yes Fran but Memphis also wasn't New York City and Memphis didn't have the money to pay Calipari enough to stop him from leaving. St. Johns does especially if Mike Repole stays involved.
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Perhaps, but if we are in a sense demoted to the A-10, I would not hang my hat on Lavin sticking around to coach in a mid major. He might, but expecting him to do so would be the same type of complacent thinking that has apparently gotten us into this mess in the first place. A move down from a power conference should be looked upon as a last resort.
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Agreed, but we might not have a choice. If that's the case and we don't have a choice then the St. Johns administration with help from Repole have to be prepared to overwhelm Lavin with Money. In the end it's all about the Benjamins. That's why all this realigment is happening in the first place. If the answer to the question doesn't concern money, rephrase the question.
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Ego plays a very large part as well, and should not be completely discounted when looking at the entire picture. Plus, who's to say that Repole will be as anxious to bankroll a team in a mid major conference?
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Hopefully Mcdonalds buys Energy Kitchen for 10 billion dollars :)
 
I dont expect people to travel to Charlston, but MGG and Carneseca is a different story.
 
I just read that SDSU, Boise St & BYU and in discussions with the Mountain West to return for next year (just saw it on the ESPN ticker)
 
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