All Realignment Talk Here

[Amaseinyourface]

No way Siena is in it...they are god awful. They had like 1 or 2 good years, and that's it. The only MAAC school that would even MAYBE make sense to compete at that level is Iona, but we don't want them...we want to be the only NYC school.

You dont know much about the MAAC.

You do realize I attended a MAAC school for undergrad right? Siena is not that competitive academically and has 6 NCAA appearances ever. They had a very good team a few years back, but that team is long gone.

Joe, I'm a MAAC guy myself. I had no idea you were too, where'd you go?

Marist. We are now terrible, but we had some great battles with Siena (the main rival) around the 07/08 years. I remember seeing Siena shock Ohio State and their teams with Rossiter/Hasbrouck/Ubiles/etc. They were great then, but Siena is not the historic basketball school you want. Even as much as I hate Creighton, at least they have over 10 NCAA appearances and are one of the premier mid majors. I would probably take Fairfield, Iona, Stony Brook (I know they are America East), etc. well before Siena. So what they play at the big arena? That doesn't mean you are good. Their enrollment is less than 5,000 I believe. The place would be empty as it usually is. Go look at a list of all 300+ DI basketball schools with 6 NCAA berths and I guarantee you the company would be pretty bad. When you consider some of the lower tier Big East teams (Providence, DePaul) have well over double the NCAA berths as Siena, you can see they aren't a competitive fit. Every team has its good years and bad years. Siena just happened to have a few great years in the late 00's and now they suck again. It's not like they are one of those mid majors that is consistently dominating their conferences like Butler, Xavier, VCU, etc.

So you are saying fairfield, Iona, and Stoney brook are better programs than Siena? Fairfield? really

If I had to pick one from that list (wouldn't want any in our conference), Siena would probably be last. Fairfield has been better than Siena the past few years, Iona is starting to attract big time players and was amazing last year, and Stony Brook already has 20 wins this year and just missed the tourney last year by the skin of their teeth in the America East champ game. Stony Brook's athletics are in the midst of a renaissance...their football team has been dominant and nearly took down Cuse earlier this year, their basketball team has really taken off and will likely be invited to the A-10 when they lose Xavier and Butler, their lax team is among the best in the nation, etc. SB would be a very scary team to face as an early OOC foe.

Ask any D1 coach in the country who the best program is out of those four mentioned and 99% will disagree with you.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

No way Siena is in it...they are god awful. They had like 1 or 2 good years, and that's it. The only MAAC school that would even MAYBE make sense to compete at that level is Iona, but we don't want them...we want to be the only NYC school.

You dont know much about the MAAC.

You do realize I attended a MAAC school for undergrad right? Siena is not that competitive academically and has 6 NCAA appearances ever. They had a very good team a few years back, but that team is long gone.

Joe, I'm a MAAC guy myself. I had no idea you were too, where'd you go?

Marist. We are now terrible, but we had some great battles with Siena (the main rival) around the 07/08 years. I remember seeing Siena shock Ohio State and their teams with Rossiter/Hasbrouck/Ubiles/etc. They were great then, but Siena is not the historic basketball school you want. Even as much as I hate Creighton, at least they have over 10 NCAA appearances and are one of the premier mid majors. I would probably take Fairfield, Iona, Stony Brook (I know they are America East), etc. well before Siena. So what they play at the big arena? That doesn't mean you are good. Their enrollment is less than 5,000 I believe. The place would be empty as it usually is. Go look at a list of all 300+ DI basketball schools with 6 NCAA berths and I guarantee you the company would be pretty bad. When you consider some of the lower tier Big East teams (Providence, DePaul) have well over double the NCAA berths as Siena, you can see they aren't a competitive fit. Every team has its good years and bad years. Siena just happened to have a few great years in the late 00's and now they suck again. It's not like they are one of those mid majors that is consistently dominating their conferences like Butler, Xavier, VCU, etc.

So you are saying fairfield, Iona, and Stoney brook are better programs than Siena? Fairfield? really

If I had to pick one from that list (wouldn't want any in our conference), Siena would probably be last. Fairfield has been better than Siena the past few years, Iona is starting to attract big time players and was amazing last year, and Stony Brook already has 20 wins this year and just missed the tourney last year by the skin of their teeth in the America East champ game. Stony Brook's athletics are in the midst of a renaissance...their football team has been dominant and nearly took down Cuse earlier this year, their basketball team has really taken off and will likely be invited to the A-10 when they lose Xavier and Butler, their lax team is among the best in the nation, etc. SB would be a very scary team to face as an early OOC foe.

Don't forget their baseball team made the College World Series.

 

[LINY89]

No way Siena is in it...they are god awful. They had like 1 or 2 good years, and that's it. The only MAAC school that would even MAYBE make sense to compete at that level is Iona, but we don't want them...we want to be the only NYC school.

You dont know much about the MAAC.

You do realize I attended a MAAC school for undergrad right? Siena is not that competitive academically and has 6 NCAA appearances ever. They had a very good team a few years back, but that team is long gone.

Joe, I'm a MAAC guy myself. I had no idea you were too, where'd you go?

Marist. We are now terrible, but we had some great battles with Siena (the main rival) around the 07/08 years. I remember seeing Siena shock Ohio State and their teams with Rossiter/Hasbrouck/Ubiles/etc. They were great then, but Siena is not the historic basketball school you want. Even as much as I hate Creighton, at least they have over 10 NCAA appearances and are one of the premier mid majors. I would probably take Fairfield, Iona, Stony Brook (I know they are America East), etc. well before Siena. So what they play at the big arena? That doesn't mean you are good. Their enrollment is less than 5,000 I believe. The place would be empty as it usually is. Go look at a list of all 300+ DI basketball schools with 6 NCAA berths and I guarantee you the company would be pretty bad. When you consider some of the lower tier Big East teams (Providence, DePaul) have well over double the NCAA berths as Siena, you can see they aren't a competitive fit. Every team has its good years and bad years. Siena just happened to have a few great years in the late 00's and now they suck again. It's not like they are one of those mid majors that is consistently dominating their conferences like Butler, Xavier, VCU, etc.

So you are saying fairfield, Iona, and Stoney brook are better programs than Siena? Fairfield? really

If I had to pick one from that list (wouldn't want any in our conference), Siena would probably be last. Fairfield has been better than Siena the past few years, Iona is starting to attract big time players and was amazing last year, and Stony Brook already has 20 wins this year and just missed the tourney last year by the skin of their teeth in the America East champ game. Stony Brook's athletics are in the midst of a renaissance...their football team has been dominant and nearly took down Cuse earlier this year, their basketball team has really taken off and will likely be invited to the A-10 when they lose Xavier and Butler, their lax team is among the best in the nation, etc. SB would be a very scary team to face as an early OOC foe.

Don't forget their baseball team made the College World Series.

If we wanted the best all-around athletic and academic school, Stony Brook would win in a blow out. The only school in the list that can match SB academically is Fairfield but in terms of sports, they have great football, lax, baseball, basketball teams. I'm telling you, this is a program to really look out for in the next decade as they have grown TREMENDOUSLY in terms of prestige and quality in a short period of time. It has even been discussed that they may try to become a BCS football school. If they did that (probably a long shot) and succeeded, they would probably be invited to a major conference and become the first true NYC area football power in college sports as well as become known as a top academic school nationally. Going a little far perhaps, but SB's stock is soaring right now. They are also playing St. John's in baseball at Citi Field in March!

 

[Rob Lenhart]

Absolutely agree. Stony Brook would be a terrific add to the C7+ conference. Being so close to SJ I'm all but certain SJ wouldn't want them in. They'd be a great local rival. The A-10 would be crazy to pass them over as a new addition.

 

[ras]

I dont think they should be part of the C7. Too many better schools. I wouldnt mind seeing them on our schedule .

 

[STJ11Redmen]

There is no way I would add Stony Brook to the C7, but they are an up and coming program. To be honest I could see them aligning with the new Big East 10-20 years down the line because I think they will eventually try to make the jump to FBS football.

 

[simplyred]

First siena, now Stony Brook. People are really digging. There are enough quality basketball programs for the league. No need to turn over rocks in search of them.

 

[Moose]

There is no way I would add Stony Brook to the C7, but they are an up and coming program. To be honest I could see them aligning with the new Big East 10-20 years down the line because I think they will eventually try to make the jump to FBS football.

He was saying to the A10
At first I read it the same as you.

 

[simplyred]

There is no way I would add Stony Brook to the C7, but they are an up and coming program. To be honest I could see them aligning with the new Big East 10-20 years down the line because I think they will eventually try to make the jump to FBS football.

He was saying to the A10
At first I read it the same as you.

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Absolutely agree. Stony Brook would be a terrific add to the C7+ conference. Being so close to SJ I'm all but certain SJ wouldn't want them in. They'd be a great local rival. The A-10 would be crazy to pass them over as a new addition.

 

[Moose]

There is no way I would add Stony Brook to the C7, but they are an up and coming program. To be honest I could see them aligning with the new Big East 10-20 years down the line because I think they will eventually try to make the jump to FBS football.

He was saying to the A10
At first I read it the same as you.

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Absolutely agree. Stony Brook would be a terrific add to the C7+ conference. Being so close to SJ I'm all but certain SJ wouldn't want them in. They'd be a great local rival. The A-10 would be crazy to pass them over as a new addition.

Wow. I was typing out an are you crazy response but looked up and said he's talking about A10. Was giving Re-alignment Rob too much credit I guess.

So I will type out my crazy response now.

NO TEAM WILL BE JUMPING FROM AMERICA EAST TO THE C7!

 

[LINY89]

Absolutely agree. Stony Brook would be a terrific add to the C7+ conference. Being so close to SJ I'm all but certain SJ wouldn't want them in. They'd be a great local rival. The A-10 would be crazy to pass them over as a new addition.

Yes the A-10 would be nuts not to. And not that I want them in the C-7, but even if we did they are way too close to SJ. The SB exit is only 35-40 minutes east of the Queens border (Exit 32 LIE) with no or light traffic. Too close for comfort IMO.

 

[ErickTheRed]

Stony Brook is a little bit more like an hour or so from STJ, and you wouldn't take the LIE( exit 32 is prob still in queens) better off Northern state. Looking at prob 50 plus miles.

 

[Class of 72]

First siena, now Stony Brook. People are really digging. There are enough quality basketball programs for the league. No need to turn over rocks in search of them.

Siena, Stony Brook......and keeping with the "S's".... Sacred Heart.
I think some folks are worrying that the new conference will be Midwest-focused and that is why a Siena is mentioned. It would be sad if some C7 president loses focus and sees it that way.
Clearly, DePaul, Marquette, Xavier, Dayton, Butler and St. Louis are all Midwestern schools.
Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's, Seton Hall, Providence need another "eastern" school to balance the 12 team conference.

 

[LINY89]

Stony Brook is a little bit more like an hour or so from STJ, and you wouldn't take the LIE( exit 32 is prob still in queens) better off Northern state. Looking at prob 50 plus miles.

I live right by SB and from the LIE exit for SB (62) to the first Queens exit (32 CIP Cross Island) with no traffic is definitely not 1 hour or above with little or no traffic it's 30-40. 50 miles is to Manhattan not Queens. Not as far east as you think...it's exactly halfway on the island not that far out. If you drive like a granny it prob takes about 1 hour, but if you want to get there in better time 45 minutes to the SJ campus is 100% doable given the traffic situation. I would know I do it all the time.

Google Maps: Ronkonkoma is (same distance east as SB) 38 miles and 46 minutes from SJU. Stony Brook is not so far east as it is north. Those numbers also assume you do the speed limit and no higher or lower.

 

[mjmaherjr]

I'd rather keep the Conference at 7 teams before inviting stonybrook. On the plus side a certain redmen.com poster here could get us really good football seats there

 

[LINY89]

I'd rather keep the Conference at 7 teams before inviting stonybrook. On the plus side a certain redmen.com poster here could get us really good football seats there

Not advocating them to join us, but they can really make things interesting if they go BCS in the next decade. Many people don't realize but SB also has a Manhattan campus.

 

[mjmaherjr]

I'd rather keep the Conference at 7 teams before inviting stonybrook. On the plus side a certain redmen.com poster here could get us really good football seats there

Not advocating them to join us, but they can really make things interesting if they go BCS in the next decade. Many people don't realize but SB also has a Manhattan campus.

 

[austour]

I'd rather keep the Conference at 7 teams before inviting stonybrook. On the plus side a certain redmen.com poster here could get us really good football seats there

Not advocating them to join us, but they can really make things interesting if they go BCS in the next decade. Many people don't realize but SB also has a Manhattan campus.

And a Southhampton one, if you want to hang by the beach. No tickets for Joe3 though.

PS Joe, where do you live? I grew up in Port Jeff. Well, as much I grew up at all.

 

[ErickTheRed]

Think exit 32 is little neck pkwy and i live in huntington and from me stony brook is 25 miles and 40 min, STJ is exit 25 so maybe driving at 2am from stj to sb is 45 min but going to a weeknight gMe at 7pm good luck

 

[L J S A]

Not advocating them to join us, but they can really make things interesting if they go BCS in the next decade. Many people don't realize but SB also has a Manhattan campus.

And a Southhampton one, if you want to hang by the beach.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot goes on there.

It is a pretty sweet location, though, assuming you aren't trying to get home from there on a Sunday afternoon in the summer.