All Realignment Talk Here

I hope we stay at 10 teams.

I'd like home and homes with every team.

Also who knows. Maybe NBC or ESPN outbids fox.

The Holy 7 deserve more of the revenue since it's like starting a business. They took more risk and they deserve more reward.

But I'd be fine with a vesting period where the other additions become equal after several years
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If league only goes to 10 it will likely be Xavier, Butler an either VCU or St. Louis I think. I still think we''ll go to 12. More teams generally a little bit more marketable. Will be interesting to see what happens.
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While I agree, I hope we wait to go to 12. Put ourselves in a position to react to a changing landscape rather than just jumping the gun right off the bat. Who knows who becomes "available" in a few years. Maybe it would even bring about a renegotiation of rights?!?!
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I think that's what we'll see. Butler, Xavier and St. Louis immediately, then sitting on 10 teams for two seasons. If nothing radical happens, then like I just mentioned I think we "settle" for VCU and Dayton.
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I don't know about settling for those two. As of now I think we see Butler, Xavier and St Louis now but Creighton and Dayton seem to have the inside track IMO.

Here's a fun idea. Lets say the foretold conference realignment takes place (Big 12, Big 10 and SEC) who do we see move and where? Does the PAC-x go for a power grab and take Texas? How would that destabilize the ACC and/or Big 12? We could be looking at Notre Dame easily becoming available (HUGE boost to the TV contract) and maybe even a Duke (doubtful but not entirely impossible). Also, how do you guys think the scientific findings on brain damage in football players affect college football in general? In 5 years or less there will be a lot of "leftovers" that any basketball conference with a mind will be salivating over.
 
I hope we stay at 10 teams.

I'd like home and homes with every team.

Also who knows. Maybe NBC or ESPN outbids fox.

The Holy 7 deserve more of the revenue since it's like starting a business. They took more risk and they deserve more reward.

But I'd be fine with a vesting period where the other additions become equal after several years
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If league only goes to 10 it will likely be Xavier, Butler an either VCU or St. Louis I think. I still think we''ll go to 12. More teams generally a little bit more marketable. Will be interesting to see what happens.
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While I agree, I hope we wait to go to 12. Put ourselves in a position to react to a changing landscape rather than just jumping the gun right off the bat. Who knows who becomes "available" in a few years. Maybe it would even bring about a renegotiation of rights?!?!
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I think that's what we'll see. Butler, Xavier and St. Louis immediately, then sitting on 10 teams for two seasons. If nothing radical happens, then like I just mentioned I think we "settle" for VCU and Dayton.
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People under rating VCU which might have the most potential of all of them. They are a school that is essentially "Virginia State" U. They have 30+K enrollment, and already have an excellent coach in Smart. I think VCU could be a big player. Not only are they good now but have potential to grow into a power. Gotta look at who can be really good down the line, not just who's good now. Xavier an absolute lock of course. St. Louis looks like a strong initial candidate. Outside of that, arguments could be made both for and against just about everybody.
 
As much as I want to see UConn and Cincy suffer trying to dictate what happens in the conference we helped create, I'd be shocked if a major conference didn't take them. There's no way after winning multiple championships recently for both men's and women's teams that they won't end up in the ACC or Big Ten IMO. Cincy has been very relevant in both football and basketball recently. I love everything that's going on. Not only are we focusing on our roots: basketball, but we are also in the drivers seat for the new conference along with Marquette and G'Town. Who knows, 25 years down the road we may be seen as one of the saviors of college basketball in the Northeast especially if SJ, Prov, SH, and DePaul begin to step up. I'm shocked there's no mention in the articles about how much it would mean for a team like us to make double our money. That can be a program changing thing.
 
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There are no remaining "big name" FBS schools other than Yukon and Cincinnati that the C7 would have interest in.

My gut tells me that either the B10 and/or the B12 will take additional ACC schools which should provide a safe landing for Yukon & Cincy.
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I think schools like Temple and Memphis would be great to get if they were willing to park FB programs elsewhere...UCONN and Cinci have higher aspirations so don't see them doing so
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
 
I know basketball will be the driver. But why turn down programs willing to behave themselves, especially if they are too outnumbered to make any football-related power plays? I don't think Cincy or UConn can be trusted, and I hope they rot in lower division hell. But if Temple and Memphis recognized that they are first and foremost basketball schools and parked football in the MAC, would the BE-7 turn that down? I think Temple/Xavier/Memphis is better than Xavier/Butler/St. Louis.
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Temple and Memphis don't seem to have the same FB aspirations as UCONN and Cinci
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
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That's if we don't get any drop off schools from the other major conferences as has been talked about.
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
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That waters it down too much IMO. Mason, STL, Dayton, Creighton, etc. will not be perennial contenders. Once McDermott goes to the NBA, Creighton will likely fall off for a while. We need to only take the real perennial contenders who can play with the big boys like Xavier and Butler.
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
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That's if we don't get any drop off schools from the other major conferences as has been talked about.
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Yeah I just think 14 is too large for the type of revenue were looking at. Look at the Big 10. The only reason they added MD and RU was for the perceived potential for revenue to raise the kitty for anyone. Even though it made perfect sense for them to take Pitt they never would have. No increase in TV revenue (market already full enough with Penn State and Ohio State grads) would have only meant less of a share for each school. I don't see VCU or Mason adding to the league's market. OTOH I think Temple really could since its got similar statistics to a VCU but without established athletics and a good sized alumni base all over PA. We need to start thinking like the Big 10 rather than the ACC or the current Big East. None of this small school stuff. TV revenue/media markets and potential for NCAA bids should be the name of the game.
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
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They will not go to 14 teams. No chance.
It will be most likely 10 with outside chance of 12
 
It wold appear that they are looking forward to playing each other home and away. That possible with 10 teams,
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Why would that not be possible with 12??
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would necessitate 22 conference games...limiting OOC sched
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Yeah, no one would agree to 22 conference games unless the football schools leave the NCAA. The only reason conferences grew and teams lost the home/away mindset was football. WIthout football hopefully it will come back.
 
12 team league with 2 divisions. Could home and away the 5 teams in division and one game a year with 6 teams in other division which equals 16 conference games. This should be an option. Keep SJU Georgetown Villanova SH Providence in one division.
 
It wold appear that they are looking forward to playing each other home and away. That possible with 10 teams,
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Why would that not be possible with 12??
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would necessitate 22 conference games...limiting OOC sched
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Yeah, no one would agree to 22 conference games unless the football schools leave the NCAA. The only reason conferences grew and teams lost the home/away mindset was football. WIthout football hopefully it will come back.
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It is "technically" possible which was my point. It would replace the weak SOS opponents like St. Francis and NJIT and Fordham, etc. with higher quality opponents. Or, it could use the PAC12 formula. Creighton, St. Louis, DePaul and whomever in rotating years is no big deal when you have a conference tourney with a chance to play those teams a 2nd time. That scenario would trump having to play a Seton Hall or Providence twice yearly.
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
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They will not go to 14 teams. No chance.
It will be most likely 10 with outside chance of 12
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One thing to note, if they can make more money on the contract with more teams then TV will dictate that.
Either way, the opening discussions on the TV contract is fantastic and the major sports networks will be involved in the bidding so the initial price may very well go up.
 
I say we actually end up at 14 teams with: Xavier, Butler , St. Louis, VCU, Dayton, George Mason and Creighton. Or maybe Detroit instead of Creighton. It's bigger market and closer.
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They will not go to 14 teams. No chance.
It will be most likely 10 with outside chance of 12
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One thing to note, if they can make more money on the contract with more teams then TV will dictate that.
Either way, the opening discussions on the TV contract is fantastic and the major sports networks will be involved in the bidding so the initial price may very well go up.
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Most likely teams 13 in 14 would not be big markets so the uptick would be minimal. The bidding is the best thing to see. That pissing match between networks could net a bigger increase.
 
I think possibly 12 teams eventually, but I think it might be 10 for at least a season. The league might want to wait and see what happens with the landscape and if any others decide to maybe drop low level football programs to be part of it. I think they'd like to eventually go to 12, but might keep it at 10 for a while to see what shakes out on college sports instead of being hasty.
 
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