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Thursday is going to be too late
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Creighton, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Xavier and either St Louis or Dayton will round out a 5 team addition to the new league
in my opinon
 
Looking at last year and success is short sighted.

You need to look over a bigger period of time. Yes STJ and Nova have struggled of late but take them over most of those others in terms of bball success. Everyone goes thru cycles.
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The point being made is that if all the teams mentioned to join the "new" BE were to actually join the league would have eight teams that made the NCAA bb tourney last year.

If all the teams mentioned to join the proposed conference UCONN is looking at then it will also have eight teams that made the NCAA tourney last here.

No matter how much UCONN is (deservingly) looked down on it's more than a stretch to say the conference they've proposed is "desperate". Not to mention it might even be a way of getting UCONN into the ACC.
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I don't think it is a stretch to say that proposed UCONN conference is in desperation mode. Most conferences are trying to cobble alliances for rivalries with other schools that are local or historical opponents or are in great TV markets. The Catholic 7 were/are desperate - that's why we are considering adding Gonzaga which is all the way across the country. With regard to the UCONN conference, while many of the schools are individually pretty good pieces, virtually all the other teams they are trying to cobble together are neither local nor historical rivals. That's a far cry from what the Catholic 7 are. The UCONN conference would be cobbled together with a bunch of teams that would go somewhere else if they had a better option. They are, possibly hopelessly, trying to keep their football programs relevant. That sounds pretty desperate to me to get in bed with that kind of group. The Catholic 7 were also desperate, but we seem to have made lemonade out of a situation filled with a bunch of lemons. The 7 didn't really have any other option than to go with what we are doing. Our fates are sealed, so it seems less desperate, but also much more stable. With regard to basketball only, I'd rather be in Gtown, St. John's or Villanova's shoes than UCONN's. UCONN has truly got their comeuppance, they thought they were in the driver's seat into the ACC, but the proof in in the putting that they are not. They still might sneak in the ACC somehow through some maneuverings, but they, and their proposed conference are clearly in desperation mode.
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I agree...if you go from Cuse, Pitt, ND, G'Town, Nova, etc. to UCF, Boise St., New Mexico, etc. that's desperate. The football will be awful aside from Boise St and the basketball will be bad minus UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincy, but remember...recruits won't continue to come to those schools knowing they have Tulane, Boise, NM, UCF to look forward to. Ontop of that Calhoun is gone and it's the end of an era for UConn. They may never be the same given the unique circumstance of losing a HOF head coach, being banned from postseason play, and being stuck in a much worse basketball conference. New Mexico is one of those teams that will pop up from time to time, but by no means are they considered some basketball fixture. I have never even heard of any Boise success in basketball until this year where they got a few good wins. UCF hasn't done anything.
 
I wonder what Yukon booster and frequent Redmen..com poster Alexd. has to say about Yukon's new athletic conference.

My prediction is that Yukon will develop Central Florida as its big basketball rival
 
St. John's --> 28 NCAA's 2 Final Four's #7 winningest all time
Providence-->15 NCAA's 2 Final Four's Elite 8 in 1997
G'Town--> 28 NCAA's 5 Final Four's 1 championship
Seton Hall-->9 NCAA's 1 Final Four lost NIT championship last year
Marquette-->30 NCAA's 3 Final Four's
DePaul-->22 NCAA's 2 Final Four's
Nova-->32 NCAA's 4 Final Four's 1 championship
Xavier-->23 NCAA's 2 Elite 8's
Butler-->11 NCAA's 2 Final Four's advancing to champ games

If anyone thinks this would not be a major basketball conference, you are nuts. This is not even counting if Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy come which would only put us over the top.
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Joe3; you keep talking about UCONN and Cincy; they are dedicated to getting into a football centered conference. WE DO NOT WANT THEM!!!
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If I am not mistaken Marquette won the big dance in the late 70s in Coach Al McGuire's last game ( perhaps 1977 ).
 
Thursday is going to be too late
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Creighton, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Xavier and either St Louis or Dayton will round out a 5 team addition to the new league
in my opinon
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I'm kind of hoping for a 14-team league because a couple of schools I really like will be left out otherwise.
 
Yukon and Temple are not looking too smart today with their investments in seemingly worthless FBS football programs

Yukon:
The Huskies built a football stadium on the side of I-84, won enough games to get to the Fiesta Bowl in 2010 and then attracted approximately 11 people to Arizona for the game. Randy Edsall promptly left for Maryland and, since then, Connecticut has been below .500 and desperate to get to another conference. Saddled now with an FBS football program to find a residence for, UConn basketball -- the real flagship sport in the Nutmeg State -- is no longer part of the hoop-centric equation and consequently living on athletics' Skid Row.

Temple:
Temple once was so bad at football the Big East booted it from the conference. So what did the Owls do? By golly, they spent gobs of money to build facilities in depressed North Philadelphia, figuring that would somehow miraculously convert Eagles fans into college sports fans. It didn't. Temple got better, thanks mostly to some expert coaching from Al Golden, but it became a walk-on-coals coaching layover -- if you get good, you get out or risk getting burned by the sure-to-come mediocrity. Steve Addazio lasted all of two seasons before hightailing it out of town. Meanwhile, Fran Dunphy, whose pores ooze loyalty and continuity, inherited a name-brand hoops program from John Chaney, changed the defense, changed the image and continued the success. But basketball wasn't good enough for Temple. It had to have big-time football, and so the Owls abandoned the solid Atlantic 10 in exchange for what now is essentially Conference USA.

LINK:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...able-risk-bolting-big-east-college-basketball
 
Nice job by the holy 7 to give the huskies their karmic return.
the BigEast helped build uconn into a BB power w stuttering jimmy taking his lumps early but
they did not show gratitude with trying to bolt their corrupt @sses 2x to acc to be turned away.
Now they on probation w no hof coach & no real BB league lol
payback is a bitch for jimmy dewars & his fleabag fans
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I had always hoped a hybrid BE conference would work. Before the departure of Louisville and Notre Dame to the ACC, it might have worked out great, especially with the additions of Temple and Memphis (for BB). What became apparent after the Notre Dame betrayal was that no football school could be trusted any longer. The decision last year by Marinatto (Remember the headline?? "Marinatto: Notre Dame chairs the Big East expansion committee) led to schools like SMU, Houston, Boise, San Diego being invited to an EASTERN conference. Nothing like the fox in the hen house!
As far as the Uconn Huskies are concerned, what is very troubling even today is the unmitigated gall of their unscrupulous President Susan Herbst who is "pleading" to her fellow presidents to hold the remaining BE schools! This bitch was rumored to be on the phones last month with the ACC pleading her case after Martyland announced its departure from the ACC! She is intent on keeping just a placeholder in the BE until a better offer is made. The presidents of the "7" may have finally realized (too late) that she is a Duke grad and an ACC fan!!!

Unless the the elitest Georgetown dicks throw a monkey wrench in the BE divorce, this basketball only scenario is now the only way to save the Big East name (yes, the BE brand is important to keep....at all costs). If it fails, I shudder to think the remaining 6 would have to join the A10.
 
I think the new potential Uconn conference would implode anyway and Uconn would be the first one to bolt if given the chance.

If Uconn apologized to the Holy 7 and dropped football and provided free rooms and transportation to foxwoods and mohegan for all Holy 7 alum's for life then I'd be cool with letting them in.

I still think they get picked up by someone. Hopefully the American East
 
Nice job by the holy 7 to give the huskies their karmic return.
the BigEast helped build uconn into a BB power w stuttering jimmy taking his lumps early but
they did not show gratitude with trying to bolt their corrupt @sses 2x to acc to be turned away.
Now they on probation w no hof coach & no real BB league lol
payback is a bitch for jimmy dewars & his fleabag fans
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I had always hoped a hybrid BE conference would work. Before the departure of Louisville and Notre Dame to the ACC, it might have worked out great, especially with the additions of Temple and Memphis (for BB). What became apparent after the Notre Dame betrayal was that no football school could be trusted any longer. The decision last year by Marinatto (Remember the headline?? "Marinatto: Notre Dame chairs the Big East expansion committee) led to schools like SMU, Houston, Boise, San Diego being invited to an EASTERN conference. Norhing like the fox in the hen house!
As far as the Uconn Huskies are concerned, what is very troubling even today is the unmitigated gall of their unscrupulous President Susan Herbst who is "pleading" to her fellow presidents to hold the remaining BE schools! This bitch was rumored to be on the phones last month with the ACC pleading her case after Martland announced its departure from the ACC! She is intent on keeping just a placeholder in the BE until a better offer is made. The presidents of the "7" may have finally realized (too late) that she is a Duke grad and an ACC fan!!!

Unless the the elitest Georgetown dicks through a monkey wrench in the BE divorce, this basketball only scenario is now the only way to save the Big East name (yes, the BE brand is important to keep....at all costs). If it fails, I shudder to think the remaining 6 would have to join the A10.
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Hello Tom, FWIW, Some of my good friends are G'Town grads and they very much like the idea of the "new" Big East and have no desire to be part of the ACC or any other conference for that matter.

Totally agree with you about the Big East "brand".
 
I think the new potential Uconn conference would implode anyway and Uconn would be the first one to bolt if given the chance.

If Uconn apologized to the Holy 7 and dropped football and provided free rooms and transportation to foxwoods and mohegan for all Holy 7 alum's for life then I'd be cool with letting them in.

I still think they get picked up by someone. Hopefully the American East
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I think both Uconn and Cincy will complete the ACC realignment. You can bet the presidents of both schools had two cell phones in their ears....one with the Big East and the other with the ACC. The ACC officially becoming the old Big East would be complete. After that happens, I look for Florida State to bolt and for the ACC decline to begin. Karma baby ..... Karma!
 
Thursday is going to be too late
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Creighton, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Xavier and either St Louis or Dayton will round out a 5 team addition to the new league
in my opinon
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I would like to see Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis and call it a day with 10 teams.
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I think we have already reached out to Gonzaga, Butler and possibly Creighton. I would not be shocked with a 12 team super basketball conference.
 
There was a news report yesterday that quoted an unnamed source that said that after the upcoming Bowls that Boston College, Florida State and Georgia Tech would bolt the ACC for the riches of the Big Ten.

I have 2 hopes: first is that the "basketball onlys" prosper; second is for the ACC to flounder.
 
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