All Realignment Talk Here
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I'm just shocked there is no checks and balances type of system in all of this. It's alarming that it's so easy to derail the Big East. Where are the regulations? There should be rules that prevent a flurry of these moves all at once and tries to lock teams in more to their conference. As it is, we are just holding on as a top conference. If Rutgers leaves then pulls UConn/L'Ville/Cincy out with them, we are officially finished as a major conference and we truly become the new A10. It's like we are totally helpless watching this all happen. It's almost at the point where the other power conferences might as well just take SJ, Cincy, L'Ville, G'Town, UConn, Nova and end the Big East. The remaining teams like DePaul, Providence, SH, USF, etc. go to the A10 or C-USA. Of course all this crap happens right when we are just starting to get good again so we will be left in the dust.
So sick of all this crap. The Big East commissioner should have an emergency meeting with all schools, stand up and say "Listen...if you want to leave, get out now. If you are loyal and value tradition, stick with us. We cannot go on with schools who are not loyal to the Big East brand". All the other power conferences are being extremely aggressive, and the Big East is bending over and taking it. Stand up to these jerks and do something.
So sick of all this crap. The Big East commissioner should have an emergency meeting with all schools, stand up and say "Listen...if you want to leave, get out now. If you are loyal and value tradition, stick with us. We cannot go on with schools who are not loyal to the Big East brand". All the other power conferences are being extremely aggressive, and the Big East is bending over and taking it. Stand up to these jerks and do something.
jerseyshorejohnny
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Respect your passion, but this is the way the real world works.
If I were SJ, I would be lighting up the phones calling the ACC discussing a possible move. You know all the big guys are leaving soon so this is preemptive. I wonder if there's something else we can throw in to sweeten the pot in a deal? Obviously we don't make tons of money for any conference, but maybe we can really sell the NYC market and pay extra to join? The scary part is I don't think SJ is even trying to move to the ACC. Why can't they get rid of an awful team like Wake Forest, or Virginia and let us in? I know you may say football is the reason we won't be let in, but our basketball program is way better than either of those teams. IMO it's better to be great at 1 sport than average or bad at all of them.
You want no part of the ACC? Ok, so when L'Ville, UConn, Rutgers, Nova, G'Town, etc. are gone and all we have left are cupcakes like DePaul, SH, and Prov, you won't mind? Right now the Big East is a sinking Titanic. Rutgers, Cuse, Pitt, ND, WVU all jumped in the lifeboat named the USS ACC. UConn, L'Ville, Cincy, Nova, SJ, G'Town are all still on the sinking ship. The question is, do you let the other schools take the last few spots, or do you grow a pair and make an every man for himself move? Once that last lifeboat leaves, there is no going back and we are left sinking. History, tradition, respect, name brand, etc. have all gone out the window. No one cares anymore so why should we? If we stay here while the other big guys leave, that kills our recruiting, gives less recognition to our school, decreases enrollment, makes our sports less competitive, less money from TV deals, and we become all but a mere mid major. That's what you want?
jerseyshorejohnny
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You must be delusional or just caught up in the proverbial moment if you think the ACC is going to boot UVa. and Wake.
I think as SJU fans what we're going to see is the basketball schools of the Big East just merge with the A-10. It wouldn't be a bad conference .As a side note: St Joes is beating Florida St. right now in the championship of the Coaches versus Cancer Classic. Ronald Roberts is playing like beast. Lavin didn't want him but we could have used him last year and this year.
jerseyshorejohnny
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You are correct. It's a crazy idea !
Rutgers has wanted to go to the Big 10 for years. This is a dream come through for the Scarlet Knights. Then again, be careful what you wish for !
Maybe, as the CBS Sportsline writer pointed out, Maryland may not be the only ACC team going to The Big 10.
UConn can't get out of the Big East "door" soon enough.
Louisville and Cincy would leave if the right opportunity presents itself.
You are rolling rocks uphill.
STJClass_2013
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how are they talking to father harrington when he resigned?
Interesting, and I would love for this to happen, but it won't. I don't think our NYC market is enough to get us an invite to the ACC. It sucks because we are good at virtually everything else other than football. Soccer, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball, golf, volleyball, fencing (lol), lax, etc. IMO if the ACC is looking to add a few more, they take Louisville and UConn.
Would love to see it happen, but I just don't think STJ is big enough for the ACC to come calling. UCONN makes sense because of (a) football (b) traveling fan base. Georgetown makes sense because of the DC location in light of Maryland leaving. But STJ still has the feel of a recovering program. Granted, it has a lot of potential with Lavin bringing a new energy to it. But it can't be ignored that our attendance is still not there and we're not a national attention grabber like Syracuse or UCONN is at this point.
True to some extent but remember, it's not so much about how good the program is. Maryland and Rutgers would get rocked in the Big Ten football and many mid majors outperform Rutgers basketball historically. Rutgers has terrible sports and their football team has been awful until this year but they also play cupcakes. It's about markets, and TV deals. Though we may not be as big a school as say UConn, we are the only true NYC market team. We are the only major conference true NYC team in the country. Seton Hall is Jersey, Rutgers is Jersey, Syracuse is in Canada, etc. If for nothing else, we can be invited just to be another pawn of the ACC to tap into the NYC market. They also know we are the key to MSG. Imagine Duke, Cuse, UNC, etc. vs. SJ at MSG each year? They would all likely be sell outs.
This is a long shot, but weirder things have happened.
This is a long shot, but weirder things have happened.
L J S A
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It would have been a lot easier to sneak in if Notre Dame wasn't already there. They could have replaced Maryland with UConn, then brought in two big non-football markets for a tidy 16 basketball/14 football.
But there's only one non-football slot open with ND there and the ACC loves the D.C. market.
I think the only way we really get mentioned is if UConn's 11 percent graduation rate makes them sick and Georgetown was going D1 in football. Have there ever been any discussions of them moving up?
I'd love to see the ACC go to 18 and take us, Georgetown, Villanova, and UConn.