All Realignment Talk Here
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Here is a quote form a Jeff Goodman article on CBS Sports.com:
"For now, though, there are questions -- and few answers. Coaches are dealing with negative recruiting. One coach received a call recently from a high school star telling him his summer coach informed him they won't even have a league. Another forwarded a college coach a story saying they were heading to the A-10.
"It sucks," the coach said. "It's difficult enough to recruit at these type of places -- and now we have to deal with this."
Usually, coaches have an answer for just about everything. But even these guys are at a loss for words right now.
"Something's going to happen," one coach said. "I just don't know what."
"We'll know something sooner rather than later," said another. "Within the next month, I'm told we'll know what direction we're going."
I remember asking about the effect on recruiting on thids board last year and everyoner said it woulkd not effect us. I know we have a lot to offer but this could be a hard sell to a high end recruit looking to compete in a high level league. This is going to be a long month!
"For now, though, there are questions -- and few answers. Coaches are dealing with negative recruiting. One coach received a call recently from a high school star telling him his summer coach informed him they won't even have a league. Another forwarded a college coach a story saying they were heading to the A-10.
"It sucks," the coach said. "It's difficult enough to recruit at these type of places -- and now we have to deal with this."
Usually, coaches have an answer for just about everything. But even these guys are at a loss for words right now.
"Something's going to happen," one coach said. "I just don't know what."
"We'll know something sooner rather than later," said another. "Within the next month, I'm told we'll know what direction we're going."
I remember asking about the effect on recruiting on thids board last year and everyoner said it woulkd not effect us. I know we have a lot to offer but this could be a hard sell to a high end recruit looking to compete in a high level league. This is going to be a long month!
As long as we can stay with Nova, G'Town, Memphis, Temple, UConn (maybe they actually stay), Providence, DePaul, SH, Marquette, etc. we will be fine IMO. It's hard to believe, but the Big East was so stacked that even without Cuse, Pitt, WVU, ND, L'Ville, etc. we are still a good conference basketball wise. The main difference is having the #15-#25 teams instead of the #1-10 teams. I know it sounds nuts but SMU has been great so far and if they can get some recruits there, maybe get the program to rise. Our program is certainly on the rise...if we can become a good team in the next few years it helps the Big East a ton. We know Nova can't be held down for too long and will be good again very soon. Providence is ready to break out, Seton Hall has been surprisingly good, etc.
On the rise: SJ, Providence, Cincy (probably leaves but here now)
Good right now: UConn, G'Town,
Teams coming in who will be good: Temple, Memphis
Teams who will be good in another year or 2: Nova, Seton Hall
The key to Big East basketball is the little guys i.e. SJ, Prov, DePaul, Marquette, SH, Nova, etc. some of these programs will need to step up and become nationally relevant again.
On the rise: SJ, Providence, Cincy (probably leaves but here now)
Good right now: UConn, G'Town,
Teams coming in who will be good: Temple, Memphis
Teams who will be good in another year or 2: Nova, Seton Hall
The key to Big East basketball is the little guys i.e. SJ, Prov, DePaul, Marquette, SH, Nova, etc. some of these programs will need to step up and become nationally relevant again.
SJUhoopNUT
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Marquette and Nova aren't little guys. Both have been to final 4's in the last 10 years and have made mutliple NCAA tourneys.
We need to get to that level.
We need to get to that level.
SJUhoopNUT
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Folks, looks like this is it. End of an era.
Brett McMurphy@McMurphyESPN
BIg East hoops schools expected to release statement on future plans in coming days. Source told @espn would be an "upset" if they remained
Brett McMurphy@McMurphyESPN
BIg East hoops schools expected to release statement on future plans in coming days. Source told @espn would be an "upset" if they remained
Maybe we're actually being proactive for a change.
I'm betting that Thompson, Lavin, Wright etc all told their presidents that if the uncertainty and myth that we were in a bad position went on any longer it would start to seriously hurt their recruiting.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-schools-leaning-leaving-big-east-sources-say
Who feels bad for UCONN right now?? Anybody?.... didn't think so.
Two weeks ago they were begging the ACC to take them.
"UConn president Susan Herbst has contacted officials from the non-FBS Big East members, pleading with them to stay in the league, sources told ESPN. "
Two weeks ago they were begging the ACC to take them.
"UConn president Susan Herbst has contacted officials from the non-FBS Big East members, pleading with them to stay in the league, sources told ESPN. "
Save The Hero
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We needed to get out anyway possible. I like this move. The conference has completely changed. Its like we would have merged with the CUSA instead. Glad we get out okay. Worse but at least okay.
L J S A
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"All of the feelers we sent out to other conferences were rebuffed, so we need you."
them. At this point I want the Big 12 to take them, USF, and Cincy so we have no opposition to keeping the name.
Keep Temple and Memphis, invite Xavier, invite all 10 teams from Mountain West to become BE football.
Invite Gonzaga, UNLV, and BYU for basketball, and work your way down from there.
Announcement in the next 24-48 hours. If we are going to leave, take our conference name too. If not, then nobody gets it. End of an era it certainly is. Time to break those football chains I think though. I'd feel bad for UConn if they weren't part of the problem. They wanted out and didn't care what happened to any of us. Now it is time the basketball schools do the same.
There's nothing like Herbst begging for mercy on the way out though. A "football" school begging for us to remain the sacrificial lamb until they find a better home. Eff that! If and when the basketball schools dissolve this, the remaining football programs become unmarketable to the superconferences. All these schools should remember that the bball schools wanted to keep this thing together and waited as long as possible. Time to make our own way again.
There's nothing like Herbst begging for mercy on the way out though. A "football" school begging for us to remain the sacrificial lamb until they find a better home. Eff that! If and when the basketball schools dissolve this, the remaining football programs become unmarketable to the superconferences. All these schools should remember that the bball schools wanted to keep this thing together and waited as long as possible. Time to make our own way again.
I don't know how many of you are on Twitter but I follow "STJ Basketball"....I don't know who the author is of those tweets but there was a short but very interesting tweet this morning that simply stated...."Fortune favors the bold".....
I guess this was a hint as to what appears to be forthcoming.....
I guess this was a hint as to what appears to be forthcoming.....
Yes Marillac, but how do you prevent those schools from not hurting the conference by leaving should a power conference come offer for all sports? Only thing I can think if is a contractual arrangement for 10 years where they commit to the league except football with some absurd buyout that they can't get out of. I too would like those schools for basketball, but they can still cause instability which would not be good for the future of our league. How can we really invite teams moving forward that opare begging to be taken by a superconference??
You can't. I agree, I would love to have them too; but I don't see how it can happen either.
And even though we think Cinn and Uconn football are a joke - those schools pay millions into their football programs. They're not going to join us in a basketball only league, and let their football teams play in the MAC or CUSA. They are going to stick by their football programs.
I would think Memphis or Temple would be easier, but who knows. We think their football programs are irrelevant, but they invest a ton of money in them, they're not going to just toss football aside even though they probably should.
the uconn folks over at the boneyard are beside themselves.....
http://www.the-boneyard.com/threads/hoop-school-statement-coming-would-be-upset-if-they-stay.29943/
http://www.the-boneyard.com/threads/hoop-school-statement-coming-would-be-upset-if-they-stay.29943/
Honestly, if we do split, why not have some kind of contract with UConn where their football power is diminished? We obviously would love to have them for basketball. Also interesting to see some posters in the UConn forum say "Football was the biggest mistake we made". Crazy stuff guys.
It's easy. All they have to do is drop their football program to 1AA and we'll welcome them with open arms to our bball conference!! In addition, I think just to screw with the ACC, we should invite Duke. I know they won't be takers, but would be fun to just remind them that they are really a basketball school riding the coattails in a football conference!